Muslim population 'rising 10 times faster than rest of society'

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Whatsthepoint said:
I don't wish to destroy liberal democracy in order to preserve it.
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Then stop making asinine suggestions since that is exactly what you are proposing even if you don't spell it out!
 
Whatsthepoint said:
everything is wrong with that.
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No point saying ''everything is wrong with that.''

Are you suggesting that you do not even know what you feel is wrong with an Islamic government?

Personally I highly doubt there shall ever be an Islamic government.
Insecurities maybe?

Well, stopping immigration and somehow try to reduce birth rates in non-hedosnistic somali women.
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Stopping immigration just for Muslims?

The law applies to everyone. If your trying to reduce birth rate, then everyone has to abide by it, whether Muslim or non-Muslim.
 
Guestfellow said:
No point saying ''everything is wrong with that.''

Are you suggesting that you do not even know what you feel is wrong with an Islamic government?

Personally I highly doubt there shall ever be an Islamic government.
Insecurities maybe?



Stopping immigration just for Muslims?

The law applies to everyone. If your trying to reduce birth rate, then everyone has to abide by it, whether Muslim or non-Muslim.
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Of course. At the moment I am able to enjoy all the ebnefits of the curent liberal democratic system, so are Muslims and every minority out there. I'm rather happy with what we have now and I don't want it to change.
Well, the native population already has low birth rates so it wouldn't affect them.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
No, I'm proposing to end immigration as well as certain social benefits.
I'm not a ****ing nazi.
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In order for immigration to come to an end (although I personally can't understand why anyone would migrate to Europe) Europe would have to take any influence it has in said countries.. You can't occupy, pillage, and leave places in utter burnout and not expect it to come bite you in the ass, although admittedly England especially had a history of doing so, especially in areas like Hong kong-- imposing open door policies on China, forcing them into Opium addiction. Or taking completely over the diamond mines of south Africa.. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, and then whine till pigs fly ..

in the end it isn't about money, Caucasian(ness) or power... it is about the ability to survive it all!

You simply reap what you sow!

all the best
 
Gossamer skye said:
In order for immigration to come to an end (although I personally can't understand why anyone would migrate to Europe) Europe would have to take any influence it has in said countries.. You can't occupy, pillage, and leave places in utter burnout and not expect it to come bite you in the ass, although admittedly England especially had a history of doing so, especially in areas like Hong kong-- imposing open door policies on China, forcing them into Opium addiction. Or taking completely over the diamond mines of south Africa.. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, and then whine till pigs fly ..

in the end it isn't about money, Caucasian(ness) or power... it is about the ability to survive it all!

You simply reap what you sow!

all the best
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Later on they gave free passports to the people of hong kong, south africa and some parts of India/Pakistan - its one fo the reasons why so many immigerants came in to the UK in the 1950s -60s - the UK needed labour after the war - the immigerants needed a better economic life - mutual intrests.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
More immigrants, more nazis, more social tension etc. And end to immigration would prevent that to a significant extent.
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You cant end immigartion - thats not realistic you can only reduce it and change peoples perception take the low jobs and reduce there hednositc life style. The Nazis will always exist as long as multicultrualism exits in europe. They will increase in times of economic meltdowns.
 
Zafran said:
Later on they gave free passports to the people of hong kong, south africa and some parts of India/Pakistan - its one fo the reasons why so many immigerants came in to the UK in the 1950s -60s - the UK needed labour after the war - the immigerants needed a better economic life - mutual intrests.
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indeed, but they didn't recognize them as British citizens, they simply used them, as front line infantry in every sector, you know the expendable.. I find England especially to be the most loathsome country in the world.. I really have no respect for them, or their policies.. It has always been my belief that England should be divided up amongst the people it occupied.. and imagine that, for even the U.S had to get its independence from that little gnat of an island!
 
Zafran said:
You cant end immigartion - thats not realistic you can only reduce it and change peoples perception take the low jobs and reduce there hednositc life style. The Nazis will always exist as long as multicultrualism exits in europe. They will increase in times of economic meltdowns.
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That's what I'm suggesting.
 
Gossamer skye said:
indeed, but they didn't recognize them as British citizens, they simply used them, as front line infantry in every sector, you know the expendable.. I find England especially to be the most loathsome country in the world.. I really have no respect for them, or their policies.. It has always been my belief that England should be divided up amongst the people it occupied.. and imagine that, for even the U.S had to get its independence from that little gnat of an island!
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Would you suggest the same for Turkey?
 
Clover said:
I have something against Islam Law if it tried to be established in the US, but other then that, nothing lol.
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I agree, I don't mind Muslims and as a minority they should have all the rights and priviliges they want. But I wouldn't want them to become the majority.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
I agree, I don't mind Muslims and as a minority they should have all the rights and priviliges they want. But I wouldn't want them to become the majority.
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I don't care if they became the majority, sure I might prefer a Christian minority (and I might dream of a Buddhist/Confucianist/Taoist majority haha) but I do not really care in the end. If they tried ot establish Sharia Law then I would oppose the supporters of it till I am dead, with respect of course.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Of course. At the moment I am able to enjoy all the ebnefits of the curent liberal democratic system, so are Muslims and every minority out there. I'm rather happy with what we have now and I don't want it to change.
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I understand. There is really no need to worry. There is a very low possibility of an Islamic government being formed. Lets say even if an Islamic government is formed. Freedom of speech shall still exist. It still shall be a democratic system because we vote for our leader in general.


Zafran said:
Your not a nazis - your a wannabe Nazis.
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I would not call him a Nazi. He simply does not want an Islamic government. He is not racist. I do not approve of his methods of immigration and birth control.

Personally, I believe religion is for an individual. A government should represent all the individuals that live here.

Unfortunately, religious leaders may not represent other minorities such as Atheists, if that was the case.

I have something against Islam Law if it tried to be established in the US, but other then that, nothing lol.
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What particular Islamic law? There is so many of them.
 
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