Anti-Islam Anti-Muslim Protests in Birmingham

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Blackpool said:
... But apart from all that! :D
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Let's put it this way, on my brief stay on the colonialist little island 'funded in totality' by my American dollars, I managed a bout of deep depression & and thousands of dollars on tickets back to the U.S every few weeks to get over my accompanying home sickness...

I liked the weeniwotsits if that counts for anything?
 
Gossamer skye said:
Let's put it this way, on my brief stay on the colonialist little island 'funded in totality' by my American dollars, I managed a bout of deep depression & and thousands of dollars on tickets back to the U.S every few weeks to get over my accompanying home sickness...

I liked the weeniwotsits if that counts for anything?
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I suffer from home sickness to :) I can't stay out of this country for a day longer than 2 weeks. Even in Florida I was looking forward to coming back to Britain after 2 weeks. It's natural.
To be quite honest with you I don't think I could live anywhere else...!
 
Blackpool said:
And PROUD of it too! :) English/British and very very proud.
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Actually I'm confused. How can you be proud of something that you have no control over? Like you had no control over choosing which country you were going to be born in...
 
Guestfellow said:
Actually I'm confused. How can you be proud of something that you have no control over? Like you had no control over choosing which country you were going to be born in...
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Easy. I'm proud of our history, culture, country, way of life, resources and the people of this country. I am British and I am proud of every aspect of it. I am just as, if not more, proud of being English/British than alot of the muslims are of their religion that you see in here. I just don't rant about it until...
 
Blackpool said:
Easy. I'm proud of our history, culture, country, way of life, resources and the people of this country. I am British and I am proud of every aspect of it. I am just as, if not more, proud of being English/British than alot of the muslims are of their religion that you see in here. I just don't rant about it until...
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I see. It is fine to be proud of your background. The only issue I can foresee when people might begin to view other races as inferior. I see that take place in international sporting events o_o
 
nothing good ever came out of nationalism or patriotism...
ones identity should be their liege to God alone!... above family, above country...
especially a country with such a dark history and so much blood on its hands!
God created the earth and he didn't favor a part or a people ..

49:13 O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full Knowledge and is well-acquainted (with all things).
 
Gossamer skye said:
nothing good ever came out of nationalism or patriotism...
ones identity should be their liege to God alone!... above family, above country...
especially a country with such a dark history and so much blood on its hands!
God created the earth and he didn't favor a part or a people ..
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The same could really be said of religion in regard to wars.
 
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it could be indeed, but shouldn't!
your concern with religion at least as far as Islam is concerned is Justice amongst all people.. as you can see from Quran which we take along with the Sunna to be our guide or ''Constitution'' that God doesn't favor a race or a people over another save by their righteousness and he is the best judge of who is and who isn't just.

You are free to love england all you want, I have no quarrels with you, but it isn't something that should be expected from the rest of humanity..
we don't see it the same way you.. in fact folks often mistake nostalgia and good memories for something other than what it is, given if you had the same circumstance and same memories else where you'd feel the same.. the evocation is not through valid reasoning that all can agree upon rather an emotive personal experience...


all the best
 
Gossamer skye said:
it could be indeed, but shouldn't!
your concern with religion at least as far as Islam is concerned is Justice amongst all people.. as you can see from Quran which we take along with the Sunna to be our guide or ''Constitution'' that God doesn't favor a race or a people over another save by their righteousness and he is the best judge of who is and who isn't just.

You are free to love england all you want, I have no quarrels with you, but it isn't something that should be expected from the rest of humanity..
we don't see it the same way you.. in fact folks often mistake nostalgia and good memories for something other than what it is, given if you had the same circumstance and same memories else where you'd feel the same.. the evocation is not through valid reasoning that all can agree upon rather an emotive personal experience...


all the best
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Can I ask you if you feel the same way as to those that have a sense of pride/patriotism to Pakistan?
 
Blackpool said:
Can I ask you if you feel the same way as to those that have a sense of pride/patriotism to Pakistan?
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I'm Pakistani. I don't have any pride in my country at all. I just like Pakistan because I am able to ride a horse in the countryside! ._.

Then again I like Britain as well because I prefer cold than heat.
 
Blackpool said:
Can I ask you if you feel the same way as to those that have a sense of pride/patriotism to Pakistan?
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pakistan? why in the world that country out of all others? or did you assume me Pakistani? I was actually born in Tanzania to non-Tanzanian parents, lived there for about 40 days so I have no memories. My father a former diplomat (now retired) took us (his family) just about every where from london, to Holland, to Turkey, to Egypt, to Saudi Arabia, to the U.S and everything you can think of in between. So the answer to spare you further assumptions as to my identity is NO, I have no loyalty to any place, my loyalty is to doing good when I can by the means that God has bestowed upon me, which I have utalized through hard work and study!
my brain and heart belong inside my body and I take them both wherever I go!

all the best
 
Gossamer skye said:
pakistan? why in the world that country out of all others? or did you assume me Pakistani? I was actually born in Tanzania to non-Tanzanian parents, lived there for about 40 days so I have no memories. My father a former diplomat (now retired) took us (his family) just about every where from london, to Holland, to Turkey, to Egypt, to Saudi Arabia, to the U.S and everything you can think of in between. So the answer to spare you further assumptions as to my identity is NO, I have no loyalty to any place, my loyalty is to doing good when I can by the means that God has bestowed upon me, which I have utalized through hard work and study!
my brain and heart belong inside my body and I take them both wherever I go!

all the best
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Why did I choose Pakistan? Because in the UK it's in the norm for muslims, even British-born muslims, to opt for Pakistan over England. Some here will know exactly what I'm talking about. It's a question, breathe.
 
Blackpool said:
Why did I choose Pakistan? Because in the UK it's in the norm for muslims, even British-born muslims, to opt for Pakistan over England. Some here will know exactly what I'm talking about. It's a question, breathe.
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Hold on there. I'm a British born Muslim and I hold no allegiance to Pakistan whatsoever. Maybe where you live most of the Muslims are pakistani, but that doesn't go for everywhere. Don't generalise please.
 
Blackpool said:
Why did I choose Pakistan? Because in the UK it's in the norm for muslims, even British-born muslims, to opt for Pakistan over England. Some here will know exactly what I'm talking about. It's a question, breathe.
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I think what I have written prior sums up my loyalties without the need for superfluous or extraneous talk.. I am breathing at a rate of 12-16 a min.. thanks for your concern
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Blackpool said:
I suffer from home sickness to :) I can't stay out of this country for a day longer than 2 weeks. Even in Florida I was looking forward to coming back to Britain after 2 weeks. It's natural.
To be quite honest with you I don't think I could live anywhere else...!
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Yeh same here because its what you call home, even though the weather nd everythin is depressin on the way back its still the climate I like and can tolerate nd actually chill in!
 
Banu_Hashim said:
Hold on there. I'm a British born Muslim and I hold no allegiance to Pakistan whatsoever. Maybe where you live most of the Muslims are pakistani, but that doesn't go for everywhere. Don't generalise please.
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There are no muslims where I live. There are a huge amount of muslims, British born too, that opt for Pakistan over England. One example is in cricket...

This is perhaps my last post in this thread now.
 
Banu_Hashim said:
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Jazaka Allah khyran.. I don't see how choosing england or pakistan applies to me or any random Muslim under any circumstance? .. this is what we call psychopathological loose association-- 'Muslim' that must mean immigrant and to no other than wonderful england dressed in a tent with loyalty to pakistan and probably harboring a bomb somewhere. :lol:
 

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