Who is Dhul Qarnayn?

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How many generations does isa witness?
Does he meet gog and magog in round two?

Another question that sometimes plays in my mind when looking at google earth is: does gog and magog have anything to do with the extreme capitalist consumer producer process? They're good at dumping food and using vast quantities of water in the plastic and rubber and oil industries to the extent of creating water shortages, have almost drained tiberias (sea of galilee) with factories and artificial irrigation in the scorched deserts.

The map speaks volumes when one notices how the majority of civilizations originated and dwelt in the middle east before scorching it and dispersing to more fertile climes.
The amount of oil available in the region is an indication of how many generations have turned into carbon.

Such phenomena also show the wisdom of ancient hermits who saw virtue in living frugal lives.
Taking only what they need from earth and leaving with a short and easy account.

I really enjoyed reading this post bro Abz.

The only barrier i can think of is that of taqwa, since in the age of aviation and space travel, planet earth has no unscalable wall.
And Allah knows best.

The barrier was/is a physical one, as described in the Quran - the verses are plain and not allegorical in reference to Dhul Qarnayn and Ya'jooj wa Ma'jooj.

A barrier, built between a mountain pass, made of blocks of Iron, covered with Qhitre to stop Ya'jooj wa Ma'jooj from attacking a "people who lived near a mountain pass" - the idea being, the barrier only protected that people - no one else...

...moving on...

Many Muslims seem to think that the barrier was built to protect the entire human race from Ya'jooj wa Ma'jooj... but no where in the Quran does it mention that - nor in the hadeeth - all we are told is that when the barrier falls, that's when they will come out from every elevation - advantage... when I trace history, I see that has already happened.

From the 8th century when Lindesfarne was invaded by the Vikings, to their pragmatic revision to become the Normans and accept Christianity as their fatih so they can justify their need to invade Jerusalem... hence the Crusades...

This very act fulfilled Judaic, Christian and Muslims propechy in one foul swoop. Look. In Judeo-Christian prophecy, Gog attacks Jerusalem from a northerly direction. In Islamic prophecy, the first of them drink from the sea of Galilee (Tiberias)... these things happened, THEY HAPPENED...between the 8th and 11th centuries.

However, the attack on Jerusalem was never an attack on Islam, it was a money grab - same as when they were attacking the tribe who lived between the mountain passes - just look at history. It's amazing and very telling.

The Muslims never defeated the Crusaders - nope - that is a common misconception by Muslims who all too often become too proud and exaggerate things. Salahuddin Ayyubi (r.a) came to an amicable agreement with the Crusaders and they left Jerusalem but not the region. It was the berber prince who dreamed that Allah told him where to take his army in order to drive the Crusaders back away from Muslim lands at that point - hence - they were turned back but not before they got what they come for - the tablets of ancient magics in Jerusalem which they found under Sulaiman AS throne, the very same Sulaiman AS had confiscated from the Jews during his lifetime... thus, when the Pope found out that the Crusaders had defected to worshipping evil entities - the pope sent out his own army to capture the Crusaders - the crusaders ended up taking refuge with Robert the Bruce - King of Scots, and they founded the first masonic church in Sctoland - the Priory of Sion (zion)... and the Crusades literally have not stopped since - Israel, was the vision, always was... and these wars which have fmoneted over the past 800 years now - are exactly to do with that - the recognition of Israel as its own sovereign state...

NO sooner had the Crusaders been turned back and the threat to Judeo-Christianity levelled, the Muslims faced a threat of their own, this time from the EAST... Ma'jooj...

The Mongol Scourge had invaded Fars, and was now moving swiftly towards Baghdad... even Ibn Taymiyyah identified them as "Ya'jooj wa Ma'jooj" and for that, the Mongols jailed him and he died in Jail. The Mongols (like the Scythian Viking) also pragmatically adopted an Abrahamic faith - they adopted Islam but there was nothing Muslim about them. They abolished the Shariah and instead installed their own Mongol law (communist) and killed, maimed and absolutely ravaged anything to do with Islamic history, the sciences etc etc etc - a very dark stain was left on humanity the day the Mongols invaded Muslim lands...

While the Mongols were advancing, they met their cousins the Ashkenaz - who were Scythian of heritage (GOG), and these Scythians decided to adopt Judaism as a religion in order to complete the trio of deception... So by now, all three - Judaism, Christianity and Islam had proponents from Gog and Magog acting as adherents whilst maintaining a pragmatic approach in order to gain power over their subjects...

...this is HISTORY. And where we stand right now, is at the highway junction where history and information collide into a spaghetti junction, and only those of us well travelled in the dialectics of this study can navigate these effectively by Allahs will.

Brothers such as shadab should realise that the leve of study and comparative methodology presented within this thread is something which requires investigation and not the same tired rhetoric of repeating what a scholar has written - this is what he does, without using his own intellect and modern resources to ascertain the accuracy of said statements... this is where bro shadab is lacking severely. In sha Allah he can re correct his approach.


Scimi
 
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if the radma has come down , pal , where are its remnants ? our perception hardly matters , when it comes to scientists and liberals, well i will agree with you on one thing , not all of them are personal wipers of finance motivated, corrupt and degenerated corporations . it is the fact that matters, now tell me , where have you found that iron and copper wall to be lying in ruins ? i mean its location , obviously.

Show me the murky spring where the sun sets and i'll show you the radn.
The allusion to the spring should be sufficient to indicate that there's much encryption.

You mentioned hollywood which reminded me of kung fu panda where they go on the quest for a scroll and ultimately find it to be blank- then realise that they were filling it up themselves.
Qadr is something we can't fathom, we do however know that we fulfil it somehow.

If i gave it a try i'd say that a man found good people and sinners in the west, a weak and helpless people in the east, and a people being attacked in the middle east who are prepared to work for the sake of Allah and have been given resources too.
And Allah knows best.

Not everything is spelled out (especially regarding future events), and not everything is encrypted, then there are those things that we will always miss....

 
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Show me the murky spring where the sun sets and i'll show you the radn.
The allusion to the spring should be sufficient to indicate that there's much encryption.

You mentioned hollywood which reminded me of kung fu panda where they go on the quest for a scroll and ultimately find it to be blank- then realise that they were filling it up themselves.
Qadr is something we can't fathom, we do however know that we fulfil it somehow.

If i gave it a try i'd say that a man found good people and sinners in the west, a weak and helpless people in the east, and a people being attacked in the middle east who are prepared to work for the sake of Allah and have been given resources too.
And Allah knows best.

Not everything is spelled out (especially regarding future events), and not everything is encrypted, then there are those things that we will always miss..

assalawalekum bro funny aint it ? but that still does not answers my question about the location of that radma . there are many places or you can say almost everything in quran has some inside meaning. it is just a matter of faith. closeness to allah s.w.t. and his last and most beloved prophet s.a.w. well coming back to our beautiful subject, since you didnt give me a location of that radma , i will give you the location of the wall or the people who were responsible for building that monument, instead of the place where sun sets in a murky pool of water . but first , i would like to thank my brother scimi , for providing with enough information to let me investigate further into this subject, thank you brother scimitar . it was the chinese and the region of china where that wall was built , and allah s.w.t knows best. i could be wrong because the true knowledge lies with allah s.w.t . and his last most beloved prophet muhammad s.a.w. it could be henan region in china. since these people were so much intrigued in steel making . different machines and equipments of steel were produce in that region for thousands of years before than any known region around the globe .
 
well, there is this one wall location which still exists... but hardly anyone even knows about it... one very clever Egyptian fellow who went there quite recently, and tested it with a metal detector at its highest points - the thing was bleeping off the charts... I've not shared that info with anyone yet. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything... hmmm.

Scimi
 
well, there is this one wall location which still exists... but hardly anyone even knows about it... one very clever Egyptian fellow who went there quite recently, and tested it with a metal detector at its highest points - the thing was bleeping off the charts... I've not shared that info with anyone yet. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything... hmmm.

Scimi

assalawalekum bro scimi you dont need to dislcose any further bro . you have done enough already. but i would like to suggest you something . first of all you are right to not unveiled the location of that place with allah's s.w.t . help , because if it won't be right than it will create fitnah in minds of many people. even if its right , its your right to disclose it whenever you want . keep doing the right work for the sake of only allah s.w.t and his last most beloved prophet muhammad s.a.w . take care .
 
one more teaser :D

[Taken from one of my posts in WUP:]

In the far north east of the Russian autonomous regions of Siberia - past the Verkhoyansk range and settled into the momsky mountains, we find the following...

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the mountains the wall was built between are actually two separate mountains adjoined at the bottom, and opened at the top - looking exactly like a cleft open sea shell as described in the Quran... I have seen this shell like mountain pass - and it took my breath away.


I have the high definition pic but I am not willing to share this atm.


What I will tell you is this:


It's geographically located at the one location where a barrier would most definitely land lock an entire nation. No other place on earth has this geographical occurance withn mountain ranges as passes are prevalent amongst all mountain ranges. Also this correlates with Al Idrisis infamous world map, the Tabulus Rogeriana - which he was commissioned to make by the Sicilian King Roger - who was in fact - A VIKING... as if that wasn't enough of a clue - however, at this point I am probably confusing some of you... anyway,


Clue - beyond vekhoyansk - lies the Autonomous regions about which very little is known prior the year 700AD... as if that wasn't enough of a clue, if you saw the the mountains adjoined, hollowed out from the inside like the concave you'd expect from the inside of a sea shell - you'd most likely be convinced.


Scimi

That is where supposedly a khaliphs messanger went.

To the north east.

Need more refferences.

Studying for now in shaa Allah
 
well, there is this one wall location which still exists... but hardly anyone even knows about it... one very clever Egyptian fellow who went there quite recently, and tested it with a metal detector at its highest points - the thing was bleeping off the charts... I've not shared that info with anyone yet. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything... hmmm.

Scimi

Quoted.

Sounds interesting.
 
That is where supposedly a khaliphs messanger went.

To the north east.

Need more refferences.

Studying for now in shaa Allah

nope... Sallam al Tarjumani ended up in China and then turned back. He was sent by Khaliph al Watiq.

The expedition sent by Khaliph Umar ended up in derbent... not very convincing... sallam al tarjumani on the other hand... here, check this out: http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Gog_and_Magog_in_Early_Syriac_and_Islami.html?id=PtxOXRlPMA0C I have this in PDF and bro - it's really enlightening.

Scimi
 
in sha Allah the truth will be apparent soon.

Scimi

Calling Brothers For Their Duty! Assalam 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullah,

What we should realise as members of this forum that we possess knowledge and understanding of these strange times we live in that the most of us in this world don't have. This automatically makes it our duty to spread it. In other words, Allah 'Azza wa Jal give us so many chances in life to please Him and at the same time increase our chances to enter Jannah.

Hasn't the time come that we finally grab those chances before they fade away?

The Prophet (Salallahu 'Alayhi wa Sallam) said: "Knowledge from which no benefit is derived is like a treasure out of which nothing is spent in the cause of God." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 108

We're sitting on that treasure know without benefitting from it. Brothers, humbly and with a slight urgence I call you for a new project that I'm trying to start with brother Scimitar. It's called 'The Original Message'. It will clear up a lot of dust what's been spread in this world, and in shaa 'Allah we'll be doing our duty towards our Creator.

What are we searching?
Brother who can find content. (Information on ahadeeth, Qur'an and the tafseer of them)

We'll also be needing people for extra help in production, this will be when it's needed.

For more information, just reply in this topic and I or brother Scimitar will do our best to answer it.

Wallahi brother time is short on our hands, as we need to act now.

At last I leave you with Surah al 'Asr:

By Al-'Asr (the time). Verily, man is in loss, Except those who believe (in Islâmic Monotheism) and do righteous good deeds, and recommend one another to the truth (i.e. order one another to perform all kinds of good deeds (Al-Ma'ruf) which Allâh has ordained, and abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds (Al-Munkar) which Allâh has forbidden), and recommend one another to patience (for the sufferings, harms, and injuries which one may encounter in Allâh's Cause during preaching His religion of Islâmic Monotheism or Jihâd).

Anything else?
 
Insha Allah truth will be apparent soon.

Qur'an Suratul-Kahf. Ayaatul-DhulQarnain "I will tell you what you should remember" He says "Dikhra!" You should remember. Not past. But future.

If we look to the place where the sun sets we find Dark Mud or a Dark Sea, not yet. But the literal 3ainin hami'a or hamiya which is the Yellowstone Caldera or Yellowstone Supervolcano. Google both. Hot waiting eye. Or a vessel filled with what results of heat "hami'a. Like molten.

When it breaks out and the lava dries. You get Dark mud. And ashes. A darkened Sea. As of right now it's 3ainin hamiya literally. A body of water. A hot body of water. 3ain. haama. Easy. Looks like an eye. So that the worst below the sky which are our sholars have no excuse in saying we are free of DhulQarnin. He is nothing. While "I will tell you of Dhul Qarnain Dikhra!"

This is real.

the infinitve verb form in the Qur'an does not mean past tense. It's general or future.
 
dat you bro? :)

Scimi

EDIT: not who I thought it was... :D
assalawalekum bro scimi one thing is for sure that wall has sharp nails all over it , as sahaba ridhwanallahu ajmain reported . that kind of narrow it down , doesnt it ?
 
no it doesn't... the Quran specifically states that the wall was made smooth so they were unable to climb it... if there were sharp nails all over it, they could have blunted those and used them for hand and foot holds... you understand bro shadab?

Scimi
 
assalawalekum bro well, i meant it from outside as sahabas r. w. a. reported . not very sharp , obviously , like knife or anything pointy.
 
Bro Shadab I've studied the expeditions of Both Khaliph Umr RA and Kahliph Watiq RA also - they didn't turn up anything solid... in fact Khaliph Watiq sent Sallam al Tarjumani on an expedition to find the barrier, he claimed he'd found in in Changan which is near Lake Lop Nor in China/Mongolia border - Schmidt and Donzel claim the location was the wall of china... but no evidence of the copper cutting from his knife remain and I doubt the claim simply because the wall is supposed to be impentrable - and Sallam claiming he penetrated it is in direct conflict with the Quran.

Scimi
 
I chased... and found... is anyone really interested?

As-Salaamu Alaikum Brother Scimitar,

I have been reading your posts on different online fora and following your youtube pages. I myself believe DQ was Darius I (Darius the Great) of Behishtun Inscription fame, Allahu Aa3lamu. I would love to get your complete researches if you are willing to share. Please get in touch al_firasa at yahoo dot com.
 


Al-An'am (The Cattle)*6:6

-أَلَمْ يَرَوْاْ كَمْ أَهْلَكْنَا مِن قَبْلِهِم مِّن قَرْنٍ مَّكَّنَّاهُمْ فِي الأَرْضِ مَا لَمْ نُمَكِّن لَّكُمْ وَأَرْسَلْنَا السَّمَاء عَلَيْهِم مِّدْرَارًا وَجَعَلْنَا الأَنْهَارَ تَجْرِي مِن تَحْتِهِمْ فَأَهْلَكْنَاهُم بِذُنُوبِهِمْ وَأَنْشَأْنَا مِن بَعْدِهِمْ قَرْنًا آخَرِينَ

Alam yaraw kam ahlakna*min qablihim min qarnin makkannahum fee alardi ma*lam numakkin lakum waarsalna*alssamaa AAalayhim midraran wajaAAalna*alanhara tajree min tahtihim faahlaknahum bithunoobihim waanshanamin baAAdihim qarnan*akhareena

6:6 Do they not see how many a generation We have destroyed before their time - [people] whom We had given a [bountiful] place on earth, the like of which We never gave unto you, and upon whom We showered heavenly blessings abundant, and at whose feet We made running waters flow? And yet we destroyed them for their sins, and gave rise to other people in their stead.

*Al-Kahf (The Cave)*18:83
-وَيَسْأَلُونَكَ عَن ذِي الْقَرْنَيْنِ قُلْ سَأَتْلُو عَلَيْكُم مِّنْهُ ذِكْر

Wayasaloonaka AAan*thee alqarnayni qul saatloo AAalaykum minhu*thikran

AND THEY will ask thee about the Two-Horned One. Say: "I will convey unto you something by which he ought to be remembered."

Maryam 19:74
-وَكَمْ أَهْلَكْنَا قَبْلَهُم مِّن قَرْنٍ هُمْ أَحْسَنُ أَثَاثًا وَرِئْيًا

Wakam ahlakna*qablahum min qarnin hum ahsanu athathan wariyan

And yet, how many a generation have We destroyed before their time-[people] who surpassed them in material power*and in outward show!***

Maryam (Mary)*19:98

*-وَكَمْ أَهْلَكْنَا قَبْلَهُم مِّن قَرْنٍ هَلْ تُحِسُّ مِنْهُم مِّنْ أَحَدٍ أَوْ تَسْمَعُ لَهُمْ رِكْزًا

Wakam ahlakna*qablahum min qarnin hal tuhissu minhum min ahadin aw tasmaAAu lahum rikzan

for, how many a generation*have We destroyed before their time - [and] canst thou perceive any one of them [now], or hear any whisper of them?***

Al-Mu'minun (The Believers)*23:31

*-ثُمَّ أَنشَأْنَا مِن بَعْدِهِمْ قَرْنًا آخَرِينَ

Thumma anshana*min baAAdihim qarnan*akhareena

AND AFTER those [people of old] We gave rise to new generations;



The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.
Revelation 17:8

1The dragon*stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.*
2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.*3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast.*4People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”
5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months.*6It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven.*7It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.
8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

9Whoever has ears, let them hear.10“If anyone is to go into captivity,into captivity they will go.If anyone is to be killed*with the sword,with the sword they will be killed.”
This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.

The Beast out of the Earth
11Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.*12It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.*13And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people.*14Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.*15The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.*
16It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,*17so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.18This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.e*That number is 666.

Revelation 13

i know where you can find him!
go look at the mirror and reflect carefully :)
maybe read the lyrics of whitney houston's "i'm every woman"
tupac's "how do you want it?"

or check this:



Notice the colours of the crescents on opposite sides - one above and the other below.

video=youtube;GaMylwohL14]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaMylwohL14[/video]

for me the responsibility of my deeds and for you yours, i am free of ascribing partners to Allah.




وَإِذَا وَقَعَ الْقَوْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ أَخْرَجْنَا لَهُمْ دَابَّةً مِّنَ الْأَرْضِ تُكَلِّمُهُمْ أَنَّ النَّاسَ كَانُوا بِآيَاتِنَا لَا يُوقِنُونَ



And when the Word (of torment) is fulfilled against them,
We shall bring out from the earth a beast to them, which will speak to them because mankind believed not with certainty in Our Ayat (Verses/Signs of the Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad SAW).

Quran 27:82*Khan:

i have found similar to the following in ashraf ali tanwi's behishti zewar (heavenly ornaments) but no sound ahadith other than the ones from sahih muslim and ibn majah which i'll post below:

4*THE RISING OF THE SUN IN THE WEST*After the night of three nights, the following morning the sun will rise in the west. People’s repentance will not be accepted after this incident.
5*THE BEAST FROM THE EARTH APPEARS*One day later, the Beast from the earth will miraculously emerge from Mount Safaa in Makkah, causing a split in the ground. The beast will be able to talk to people and mark the faces of people, making the believers’ faces glitter, and the non-believers’ faces darkened.

The emergence of the beast ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ AMONG the signs of the Hour will be the emergence of a beast from the earth. It will be very strange in appearance, and extremely huge; one cannot even imagine what it will look like.
It will emerge from the earth and shake the dust from its head.
It will have with it the ring of Solomon and the rod of Moses.
People will be terrified of it and will try to run away, but they will not be able to escape, because such will be the decree of Allah.
It will destroy the nose of every unbeliever with the rod, and write the word "Kafir" on his forehead; it will adorn the face of every believer and write the word "Mu'min" (true believer) on his forehead, and it will speak to people.

Allah SWT said: "And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), We shall produce from the earth a Beast to (face) them: it will speak to them,'" (al-Naml 27.82)

Ibn 'Abbas, al-Hasan and Qutadah said that "It will speak to them" (tukallimuhum) means that it will address them.
Ibn Jarir suggested that it means that the Beast will address them with the words "'for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs" (al-Naml 27:82 - latter part of the Ayah).
Ibn Jarir reported this from 'Ali and 'Ata' It was reported from Ibn 'Abbas that tukallimuhum means that the Beast will cut them, i e, it will write the word "Kafir" on the forehead of the unbeliever. It was also reported from Ibn 'Abbas that he will both address them and cut them; this suggestion incorporates both of the previous suggestions; and Allah knows best.

We have already mentioned the Hadith of Hudhayfah ibn Usayd, in which the Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) is reported to have said, "The Hour will not come until you see ten signs: the smoke; the Dajjal; the Beast; the sun rising from the West; the descent of Jesus son of Mary; Gog and Magog; and three landslides - one in the East, one in the West, and one in Arabia, at the end of which fire will burst forth from the direction of Aden (Yemen) and drive people to the place of their final assembly."

Abu Hurairah said: "The Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) said, 'Hasten to do good deeds before six things happen: the rising of the sun from the West, the smoke, the Dajjal, the Beast, the (death) of one of you or general tribulation." (Muslim.) Baridah said: "

The Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) took me to a place in the desert, near Makkah. It was a dry piece of land surrounded by sand. The Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) said, 'The Beast will emerge from this place. It was a very small area." (Ibn Majah.)

It was reported from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) said,
"The Beast of the Earth will emerge, and will have with it the rod of Moses and the ring of Solomon."
It was also reported that he said, "(The Beast) will destroy the noses of the unbelievers with the ring,
so that people seated around one table will begin to address one another with the words "O Believer!" or "O Unbeliever!" (i e, everyone's status will become clear).
(Ibn Majah.)




'Abd Allah ibn 'Amr said,
"I memorised a Hadith from the Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) which I have not forgotten since.
I heard the Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) say,
'The first of the signs (of the Hour) to appear will be the rising of the sun from the West and the appearance of the Best before the people in the forenoon.
Whichever of these two events happens first, the other will follow immediately.'"
(Muslim).


That is to say, these will be the first extraordinary signs.
The Dajjal,
the descent of Jesus (alayhe salam),
the emergence of Gog and Magog, are less unusual in that they are all human beings.
But the emergence of the Beast, whose form will be very strange, its addressing the people and classifying them according to their faith or unbelief, is something truly extraordinary.
This is the first of the earthly signs,
as the rising of the sun from the West is the first of the heavenly signs.


http://www.iupui.edu/~msaiupui/Ten.txt
http://www.discoveringislam.org/daabba.htm

 
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bukhari 009.087.171*-
Interpretation of Dreams -*-*-*-*Narrated Samura bin Jundub
Allah's Apostle very often used to ask his companions,
"Did anyone of you see a dream?" So dreams would be narrated to him by those whom Allah wished to tell.

One morning the Prophet said, "Last night two persons came to me (in a dream) and woke me up and said to me, 'Proceed!'

I set out with them and we came across a man Lying down, and behold, another man was standing over his head, holding a big rock. Behold, he was throwing the rock at the man's head, injuring it.
The rock rolled away and the thrower followed it and took it back.
By the time he reached the man, his head returned to the normal state.
The thrower then did the same as he had done before.

I said to my two companions, 'Subhan Allah! Who are these two persons?'
They said, 'Proceed!'
So we proceeded and came to a man Lying flat on his back and another man standing over his head with an iron hook, and behold, he would put the hook in one side of the man's mouth and tear off thatside of his face to the back (of the neck) and similarly tear his nosefrom front to back and his eye from front to back.
Then he turned to the other side of the man's face and did just as he had done with the other side.
He hardly completed this side when the other side returned to its normal state.
Then he returned to it to repeat what he had done before.
I said to my two companions, 'Subhan Allah! Who are these two persons?'
They said to me, 'Proceed!'
So we proceeded and came across something like a Tannur (a kind of baking oven, a pit usually clay-lined for baking bread)." I think the Prophet said, "In that ovent here was much noise and voices."
The Prophet added, "We looked into it and found naked men and women, and behold, a flame of fire was reaching to them from underneath, and when it reached them, they cried loudly.
I asked them, 'Who are these?'
They said to me, 'Proceed!'
And so we proceeded and came across a river." I think he said, ".... red like blood." The Prophet added, "And behold, in the river there was a man swimming, and on the bank there was a man who had collected many stones.
Behold. while the other man was swimming, he went near him. The former opened his mouth and the latter (on the bank) threw a stoneinto his mouth whereupon he went swimming again. He returned and everytime the performance was repeated,
I asked my two companions, 'Who arethese (two) persons?'
They replied, 'Proceed! Proceed!'
And we proceeded till we came to a man with a repulsive appearance, the most repulsive appearance, you ever saw a man having!
Beside him there was a fire and he was kindling it and running around it. I asked my companions,
'Who is this (man)?'
They said to me, 'Proceed! Proceed!'
So we proceeded till we reached a garden of deep green dense vegetation, having all sorts of spring colors.
In the midst of the garden there was a very tall man and I could hardly see his head because of his great height, and around him there were children in such a large number as I have never seen.
I said to my companions, 'Who is this?'
They replied, 'Proceed! Proceed!'
So we proceeded till we came to a majestic huge garden, greater and better than I have ever seen!
My two companions said to me, 'Go up, and I went up'
The Prophet added, "So we ascended till we reached a city built of gold and silverbricks and we went to its gate and asked (the gatekeeper) to open the gate, and it was opened,
and we entered the city and found in it, men with one side of their bodies as handsome as the handsomest person you have ever seen, and the other side as ugly as the ugliest person you have ever seen.
My two companions ordered those men to throw themselves into the river. Behold, there was a river flowing across (the city), and its water was like milk in whiteness.
Those men went and threw themselves in it and then returned to us after the ugliness (of their bodies) had disappeared and they became in the best shape."

The Prophet further added, "My two companions (angels) said to me,
'This place is the Eden Paradise, and that is your place.'
I raised up my sight, and behold, there I saw a palace like a white cloud!
My two companions said to me, 'That (palace) is your place.'
I said to them, 'May Allah bless you both! Let me enter it.'
They replied, 'As for now, you will not enter it, but you shall enter it (one day).

I said to them, 'I have seen many wonders tonight. What does all that mean whichI have seen?'

They replied, 'We will inform you:
As for the first man you came upon whose head was being injured with the rock, he is the symbol of the one who studies the Quran and then neither recites it nor acts on its orders, and sleeps, neglecting the enjoined prayers.
As for the man you came upon whose sides of mouth, nostrils and eyes were torn off from front to back, he is the symbol of the man who goes out of his house in the morning and tells so many lies that it spreads all over the world.
And those naked men and women whom you saw in a construction resembling an oven, they are the adulterers and the adulteresses;
and the man whom you saw swimming in the river and given a stone to swallow, is the eater of usury (RIBA).
and the bad looking man whom you saw near the fire kindling it and going round it, is Malik, the gatekeeper of Hell.
And the tall man whom you saw in the garden, is Abraham and the children around him are those children who die with Al-Fitra (the Islamic Faith)."
The narrator added: Some Muslims asked the Prophet, "O Allah's Apostle! What about the childrenof pagans?"
The Prophet replied, "And also the children of pagans."

The Prophet added:
"My two companions added, 'The men you saw half handsome and half ugly were those persons who had mixed an act that was good with another that was bad, but Allah forgave them.'"*

http://www.islamicity.org/Quransear...h_Nbr&-SortOrder=Descending&hadith_textS=riba

Sahih International:
And indeed, Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Pickthall:
And lo! verily there is knowledge of the Hour. So doubt ye not concerning it, but follow Me. This is the right path.
Yusuf Ali:
And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way.
Shakir:
And most surely it is a knowledge of the hour, therefore have no doubt about it and follow me: this is the right path.

Quran 43:61

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmAshG9VVJI

And there is a Hadith, although it might not be very strong, RasoolAllah sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam says:

*فَارِسُ نَطْحَةٌ أَوْ نَطْحَتَانِ، ثُمَّ لَا فَارِسَ بَعْدَ الرُّومِ ذَاتُ الْقُرُونِ، كُلَّمَا ذَهَبَ قَرْنٌ خَلَفَهُمْ قَرْنٌ مَكَانَهُ*

RasoolAllah sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said with the Persian Empire, it will be two knocks.
Nathah means when a ram with horns hits something, or bumps something with its head, that is called Nathah.
RasoolAllah sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said with the Persian Empire, you would bump it twice and it would be over with.
But with the Romans:*ذَاتُ الْقُرُونِ*They have many horns.
Whenever one horn is broken, another horn would come up;
And that has been the case.

With the Persian Empire, it was two major battles and it was over. The first battle was al-Qaadisiyyah and the second battle was Nahawand, and that was over with, the Persian Empire fell down.
But with the Roman Empire, we find that it has been an endless series of conflicts. The Muslims fought with the Roman Empire throughout the time of the Khulafaa’ ar-Raashidoon. It started in the time of RasoolAllah sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam in the Battle of Tabuk, and Mu’tah was with the Roman Empire. Then in the time of Abu Bakr, he sent Usaamah bin Zayd against the Roman Empire, and then Umar ibn al-Khattab fought with them and then Uthman, and then in the time of Mu’aawiyah again. And it continued throughout the period of al-Khilafaa’*Al-Amawiyyah*and then in the time of al-Abbaassieen. The Eastern Roman Empire, the Byzantine Roman Empire only fell down at the hand of Muhammad al-Faatih but then the Western Roman Empire came up and started fighting against the Ottoman Empire. Centuries of existence, it was fighting with the Roman Empire and then the occupation of the Muslim lands was done through the European states, Britain, France and Italy.
Therefore, it has been a long series, whenever one horn is broken another horn would come up.

From The Minor Signs of the Day of Judgement 39-48 by Imam Anwar Al Awlaki (may Allah have mercy upon him).

https://m.facebook.com/notes/sirat-...llah-cd7-the-minor-signs-of/10151279671201408

recall when it was that the pagan romans attacked the holy land, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea_(Roman_province)
and who was teleported onto the scene shortly thereafter, consider if the Roman governmental system with senate etc has been transfered and erected in a new land, consider the dates of the world wars, the chaos and bloodshed that became rampant thereafter, also consider who it is that meets gog and magog, how many horns does he have?

btw, anyone eva hearda Process Church?

On the day when We gather them all together,
then We say unto those who ascribed partners (unto Us): Stand back, ye and your (pretended) partners (of Allah)!
And We separate them, the one from the other, and their (pretended) partners say: It was not us ye worshipped.

Quran 10:28

 
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I found a dam which fits some characteristics, though not all:

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The Great Dam of Ma'rib


Recent*archaeological*findings suggest that simple*earth dams*and a*canal*network were constructed as far back as 2000 BCE.
The Great Dam of Ma'rib certainly dates back to about the 8th century BCE and is considered the oldest known dam in the world, being counted as one of the most wonderful feats of engineering in the ancient world.

The medieval Arab geographer*Yāqūt al-Ḥamawī*describes it thus:

It is between three mountains,
and the flood waters all flow to the one location,
and because of that the water only discharges in one direction;
and the ancients blocked that place with hard rocks and lead.
The water from springs gathers there as well as floodwater, collecting behind the dam like a sea.
Whenever they wanted to they could irrigate their crops from it, by just letting out however much water they needed from sluice gates;
once they had used enough they would close the gates again as they pleased.



The historical dam was severely damaged by a*Saudi airstrike*in the night of May 31, 2015.

Construction

The date of the first construction of the Dam at Ma’rib goes back to somewhere between 1750 and 1700 BCE.
The earliest inscription on the dam is one placed there at the time of its construction or repair of parts of the dam undertaken by Yithˁamar bin Samˁalī Yanūf, and the period of his reign is uncertain.
The following repair was in the time of Yada 'Il Bayyin who reigned in 780-750 BCE.
Renovations were then carried out by Dhamāḥ ‘Alī Dharāḥ, who reigned in 730-720 BCE.
Then Karab’il Bayyin, son of Yathˁimar, who reigned from 720-710 BCE.
All of these repairs were slight ones, essential maintenance, such as removing dirt, or opening water courses, or stopping up gaps. The*Makrib*Ali Yanouf Bin Dhamar Ali*(c. 790 BCE) had his name carved into parts of the dam to mark the completion and repair of the dam.....

....After the end of the Kingdom of Saba', the dam fell under the control of the*Ḥimyarites*in around 115 BCE.
They undertook a further reconstruction, creating a structure 14 meters high with extensive waterworks at both the northern and southern ends, with five spillway channels, two*masonry-reinforced*sluices, a*settling pond, and a 1000-meter canal to a distribution*tank.
These extensive works were not actually finalized until 325 AD and allowed the*irrigation*of 25,000 acres (100*km²).

Ancient South Arabian sources report that in about 145 BCE, the dam suffered a major breach during the war between the people of Raydān and the Kingdom of Saba’, and that is the very breach that many scholars consider to have caused the great flood of ˁArim mentioned in the Quran;
it is also mentioned in Arab proverbs which speak about the*hands of Saba'*having separated at that time.
The fighting between the Raydānites and the Sabaeans delayed the repair of the dam, and this caused devastating losses of crops and fruit, leading large numbers of people to disperse in search of new land capable of supporting life, so huge migrations ensued. It is still uncertain though whether it was that particular breach that caused the ‘flood of ˁArim’ or not, since some migrations certainly took place in the 2nd or 3rd centuries CE, and they are also ascribed to the breaking of the Dam of Ma’rib.
Generally speaking the dam was repaired twice shortly before the coming of Islam, once by Sharḥabīl Yaˁfar bin Abī Karab Yasˁad in 450 CE, and by*Abrahah in 543 CE,[7]*and the inscriptions on the dam explain the costs of repair and the large number of workers involved.

Final breach

Local tales report that the final breach of the dam had been predicted by a king called ‘Imrān, who was also a*soothsayer, and later by the wife of the king of the area.
In legend the breach was caused by large rats gnawing at it with their teeth and scratching it with their nails.

In 570 or 575, the dam was again overtopped, and this time left unrepaired.
The breaching and destruction of the Dam of Ma’rib was a historical event, and was alluded to in the Quran:

لَقَدْ كَانَ لِسَبَإٍ فِي مَسْكَنِهِمْ آيَةٌ ۖ جَنَّتَانِ عَن يَمِينٍ وَشِمَالٍ ۖ كُلُوا مِن رِّزْقِ رَبِّكُمْ وَاشْكُرُوا لَهُ ۚ بَلْدَةٌ طَيِّبَةٌ وَرَبٌّ غَفُورٌ، فَأَعْرَضُوا فَأَرْسَلْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ سَيْلَ الْعَرِمِ وَبَدَّلْنَاهُم بِجَنَّتَيْهِمْ جَنَّتَيْنِ ذَوَاتَيْ أُكُلٍ خَمْطٍ وَأَثْلٍ وَشَيْءٍ مِّن سِدْرٍ قَلِيلٍ"

There was for [the tribe of] Saba' in their dwelling place a sign: two [fields of] gardens on the right and on the left.
[They were told], "Eat from the provisions of your Lord and be grateful to Him. A good land [have you], and a forgiving Lord. But they turned away [refusing],
so We sent upon them the flood of the dam, and We replaced their two [fields of] gardens with gardens of bitter fruit,*tamarisks*and something of sparse*lote trees."


The consequent failure of the irrigation system provoked the migration of up to 50,000 people from Yemen to other areas of the Arabian Peninsula, and even to Syria and Iraq.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marib_Dam


83.*They ask thee concerning Zul-qarnain. Say, "I will rehearse to you something of his story."
84.*Verily We established his power on earth, and We gave him the ways and the means to all ends.
85.*One (such) way he followed,
86.*Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
87.*He said: "Whoever doth wrong, him shall we punish; then shall he be sent back to his Lord; and He will punish him with a punishment unheard-of (before).
88.*"But whoever believes, and works righteousness,- he shall have a goodly reward, and easy will be his task as We order it by our Command."
89.*Then followed he (another) way,
90.*Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.
91.*(He left them) as they were: We completely understood what was before him.
92.*Then followed he (another) way,
93.*Until, when he reached (a tract) between two mountains, he found, beneath them, a people who scarcely understood a word.
94.*They said: "O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (People) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightest erect a barrier between us and them?

95.*He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute):
Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:

96.*"Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."

97.*Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.

98.*He said: "This is a mercy from my Lord: But when the promise of my Lord comes to pass, He will make it into dust; and the promise of my Lord is true."

99.*On that day We shall leave them to surge like waves on one another: the trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them all together.

100.*And We shall present Hell that day for Unbelievers to see, all spread out,

101.*(Unbelievers) whose eyes had been under a veil from remembrance of Me, and who had been unable even to hear.
102.*Do the Unbelievers think that they can take My servants as protectors besides Me? Verily We have prepared Hell for the Unbelievers for (their) entertainment.
103.*Say: "Shall we tell you of those who lose most in respect of their deeds?
104.*"Those whose efforts have been wasted in this life, while they thought that they were acquiring good by their works?"
105.*They are those who deny the Signs of their Lord and the fact of their having to meet Him (in the Hereafter): vain will be their works, nor shall We, on the Day of Judgment, give them any weight.
106.*That is their reward, Hell, because they rejected Faith, and took My Signs and My Messengers by way of jest.
107.*As to those who believe and work righteous deeds, they have, for their entertainment, the Gardens of Paradise,
108.*Wherein they shall dwell (for aye): no change will they wish for from them.109.*Say: "If the ocean were ink (wherewith to write out) the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted than would the words of my Lord, even if we added another ocean like it, for its aid."
110.*Say: "I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah. whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner.

From Quran Chapter 18


The Seals

1I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!”*
2I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

3When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!”*
4Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.

5When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.*
6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two poundsa*of wheat for a day’s wages,b*and six poundscof barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”

7When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!”
8I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.
10They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”*
11Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been.

12I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,
13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.
14The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.
15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.*
16They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide usf*from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!*
17For the great day of theirg*wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”

Revelation 6





When commerce and roads are blocked and trials increase, seven knowledgeable people will come from different directions without previous appointment. Each will receive the allegiance of over three hundred men until they meet in Mecca. The seven will meet and asked one another; 'What brought you here?' They will reply: 'In Search of the man upon whose hand the trials will be calmed, and for whom Constantinople will be opened. We know him by his name, his father's name, his mother's name, and his army.'
So the seven will agree upon this and search for him then find him in Mecca. So they will ask him: 'Are you so and so, son of so and so?' He will reply: 'No, I am a man from the supporters.' And escape from them, so they will describe him to people in their midst that are both righteous and knowledgeable and it will be said to them: 'The one whom you seek was in your company, and he will go to Medina.'
So they will search for him in Medina but at that time he will be in Mecca. So they will search for him in Mecca and say to him: 'You are so and so, son of so and so, and your mother is so and so, daughter of so and so, and in you are the signs of such and such, and such and such. You escaped from us once so stretch out your hands and we will pledge our allegiance to you.' So he will say: 'I am not your companion.'
Then he will escape from them so they will search for him in Medina when he has returned to Mecca, then they will find him in Mecca beside Al Rukn and say to him: 'Our sins will be upon you and our blood upon your neck if you do not stretch out your hand so that we may pledge our allegiance! The army of the Sufyaani is coming demanding us in which there is a man from Jurm.
So he will sit between Al Rukn and Al Makam and stretch out his hand and allegiance will be pledged to him. So, Allah will sow love of him in the chests of the people and he will lead a nation that are lions during the day and worshippers at night.

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