I'm an agnostic now

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I have looked at books and websites and the fabaroonie people of IB have helped me out tremendously also.

I have tried to get in touch with Aalims, but they go incommunicado if I have contacted them via email or phone and in person they just say they don't have time.

It's not like I haven't tried because I have, and for so long.

I understand I am very weak and I am crazy and stupid and sinful, but I have asked for help so many times and it feels like no one seems interested.

Sorry OP. I have taken over your thread again.

Well, if you have specific questions, you can ask and I'm sure someone will provide an answer or a link to a scholar's response . There's lots of information available online, for example on youtube. There are scholars' youtube channels you can listen to and find lectures on topics related to your questions, such as MuftiMenk.
 
I have looked at books and websites and the fabaroonie people of IB have helped me out tremendously also.

I have tried to get in touch with Aalims, but they go incommunicado if I have contacted them via email or phone and in person they just say they don't have time.

It's not like I haven't tried because I have, and for so long.

I understand I am very weak and I am crazy and stupid and sinful, but I have asked for help so many times and it feels like no one seems interested.

Sorry OP. I have taken over your thread again.
It is a shame that people do not show interest. Have patience and perseverance in all you know. My advice is also stick to core scriptures.

Peace
 
I have looked at books and websites and the fabaroonie people of IB have helped me out tremendously also.

I have tried to get in touch with Aalims, but they go incommunicado if I have contacted them via email or phone and in person they just say they don't have time.

It's not like I haven't tried because I have, and for so long.

I understand I am very weak and I am crazy and stupid and sinful, but I have asked for help so many times and it feels like no one seems interested.

Sorry OP. I have taken over your thread again.

salaam

we all have times of weakness - insh Allah Time will bring us closer to God. Juts keep praying and defend your salah.

peace
 
You said the Quran doesn't affect you. If you're looking for stories of the Prophets, there is no better place to find them than the Quran - no other source that gives a more accurate and most beautiful versions of their stories than the Islamic sources.
I was talking about the Quran on a emotional level.
 
I was talking about the Quran on a emotional level.

then it shows something is wrong with your heart, a spiritual sickness if you like
are you still a muslim because if so there are things the ulema have recomended for softening a hard heart
if not then there isnt much i can do for you except give naseeha and pray for you
 
then it shows something is wrong with your heart, a spiritual sickness if you like
are you still a muslim because if so there are things the ulema have recomended for softening a hard heart
if not then there isnt much i can do for you except give naseeha and pray for you
From the Muslim perspective yes. I am not a Muslim as the title and the entire thread clearly state that.
 
From the Muslim perspective yes. I am not a Muslim as the title and the entire thread clearly state that.

so what were your main reasons for leaving islam
the reason i ask is usually ex muslims cite things about islam that are completely unislamic and not part of the deen (ie honor killings etc) or complete misunderstandings as the reasons why they left the deen
i havent read through the whole thread so i dont know if you have already answered this so bear with me
 
so what were your main reasons for leaving islam
the reason i ask is usually ex muslims cite things about islam that are completely unislamic and not part of the deen (ie honor killings etc) or complete misunderstandings as the reasons why they left the deen
i havent read through the whole thread so i dont know if you have already answered this so bear with me
Lets say simply I left it to search for other religions. By that I mean I am not going to let my mind limit to just the religion I was born. If everyone did that you wouldn't be a Muslim.
 
By that I mean I am not going to let my mind limit to just the religion I was born. If everyone did that you wouldn't be a Muslim.
This is an incorrect assumption. If you speak to Muslims, you'll find there are an overwhelming number of reasons to remain a Muslim. And why do you think so many people convert to Islam from other religions?

http://www.islamicboard.com/general/134308773-whats-muslim.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/discover-islam/134287267-islam-peace-lives-inside-yourself.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/new-muslims/4914-stories-muslim-reverts-post.html
 
By that I mean I am not going to let my mind limit to just the religion I was born. If everyone did that you wouldn't be a Muslim.

Every of us haven´t been so lucky like to born to Muslim family like you. As you have got something so valuable when born to kind of situation, you haven´t learnt to see its value.

Of course, it might be easier to understand the value of it, when you have to struggle to achieve it - becoming a Muslim.
 
Lets say simply I left it to search for other religions. By that I mean I am not going to let my mind limit to just the religion I was born. If everyone did that you wouldn't be a Muslim.

do you know how much hardships and trials i had to go through to find islam yet here you are born with this precious gift and you throw it away like its rubbish

yeah i left christianity because there was so many holes and flaws in the story i no longer could stick my head in the sand and pretend they didnt exist. i had enough integrity to stand up and say hey something isnt right here rather brushing it under the rug like the rest of my family. do you know my one regret about embracing islam? it is that i didnt do it sooner.
i want to leave you with a verse

(11) And whoever turns away from My remembrance - indeed, he will have a depressed life, and We will gather him on the Day of Resurrection blind." (Taa-Haa: 124)

so when your life becomes hard and depressing (and it will) know that this is a sign given to you by Allah to turn back and repent to him before its too late
 
do you know how much hardships and trials i had to go through to find islam yet here you are born with this precious gift and you throw it away like its rubbish

yeah i left christianity because there was so many holes and flaws in the story i no longer could stick my head in the sand and pretend they didnt exist. i had enough integrity to stand up and say hey something isnt right here rather brushing it under the rug like the rest of my family. do you know my one regret about embracing islam? it is that i didnt do it sooner.
i want to leave you with a verse

(11) And whoever turns away from My remembrance - indeed, he will have a depressed life, and We will gather him on the Day of Resurrection blind." (Taa-Haa: 124)

so when your life becomes hard and depressing (and it will) know that this is a sign given to you by Allah to turn back and repent to him before its too late
Well, I had my reasons. Read the whole thread so you understand for God's sake.
 
Tell me, without reading the whole thread. What do you think I believe in?
 
Tell me, without reading the whole thread. What do you think I believe in?

tbh i dont really care what you believe and im not going to read a nine page thread to "understand"
what you believe in now is irrelevant. whether your buddhist christian jewish hindu atheist a jedi or believe in a flying spaghetti monster it will all wind up with you going to one place on the day of judgement. hellfire khalidina feeha
that is of course unless you repent and return to islam
i cbb with this conversation any longer but i just want you to know bro as long as your soul hasnt left your throat or the sun hasnt risen from the west it isnt too late for you to repent

come back to Allah bro make taubah.
dont be yet another casualty of the shaitaan

“Verily, Allah is more delighted with the repentance of His slave than a person who lost his camel in a desert land and then finds it (unexpectedly)”.[Bukhari and Muslim].In another version of Muslim, he said:“Verily, Allah is more pleased with the repentance of His slave than a person who has his camel in a waterless desert carrying his provision of food and drink and it is lost. He, having lost all hopes (to get that back), lies down in shade and is disappointed about his camel; when all of a sudden he finds that camel standing before him. He takes hold of its reins and then out of boundless joy blurts out: 'O Allah, You are my slave and I am Your Rubb'.He commits this mistake out of extreme joy.”
 
Assalaamu alaikum,


(mildly) You know, the word Muslim means someone who actively tries to surrender to God's Will. (smile) And this implies that we must seek God and try to understand His Will. (smile) And as we get closer to this harmony with His Will, we feel calm and peaceful inside.

(smile) I actually applaud your efforts, Striving. (smile) Because I do not believe that Muslim is a label you inherit from your ancestors. Islam is not genetically acquired. It is a relationship you choose with the Divine. We talk about born-Muslims and reverts and suchlike. But I do not believe in these. Because we are all born in a state of Islam (in harmony with God's Will). And when we become adults we must all make choices about our relationship with God. (smile) And our whole lives, we make choices.

(smile) Islam is not a static, passive state. It is a continual active struggle.

(meditatively) Personally, I do not like the walls we put between one another. We say this person is Muslim and that person is a kaafir (a person who actively covers their heart to deny and block out God). But who are we to make such pronouncements?! Who amongst us knows the true state of a person's relationship with God? I have read a hadith about some of the first people into the Fire... and they are a scholar who pretended to be studying Islam for the Sake of God and a martyr who pretended to die for God's sake. These are people who labelled themselves as Muslims... but they were not.

No scholar of any note that I am aware of has presumed to say whether those who label themselves as Christian or Jewish are surely going into the Fire. I would suspect that this should be extended to other groups, too. Because within each label-group, you can find people who genuinely appear to be striving to please God to the best of their knowledge and ability. And I say to myself: perhaps they have a better connection and effort than myself? Because I really don't know. Only God Knows.

(smile) So, Striving, if you feel that you need to look around and understand your relationship with God in a more profound way... well, this is your journey. And it sounds rather promising to me, actually.

(smile) I have read (and I continue to read) texts from many label-groups. And I talk with many different people. (smile) And the more I learn, the more I feel closer to God. (smile) Because, you see, God Sent His Messengers and Prophets all through time to all peoples. Which is why you can find echoes of His Will in all cultures. (smile) And this, to me, is a very spiritually invigorating and beautiful thing.

So go for it, Striving... look around. Let go of your sure assumptions and dig into the matter: What is God's Will? How can I know it? What should I do? How can I best accomplish it?

(smile) And I pray you may find what you are looking for.


May God, the Wise, the Compassionate, Guide and Protect all those who sincerely seek Him.
 
Assalaamu alaikum,


(mildly) You know, the word Muslim means someone who actively tries to surrender to God's Will. (smile) And this implies that we must seek God and try to understand His Will. (smile) And as we get closer to this harmony with His Will, we feel calm and peaceful inside.

(smile) I actually applaud your efforts, Striving. (smile) Because I do not believe that Muslim is a label you inherit from your ancestors. Islam is not genetically acquired. It is a relationship you choose with the Divine. We talk about born-Muslims and reverts and suchlike. But I do not believe in these. Because we are all born in a state of Islam (in harmony with God's Will). And when we become adults we must all make choices about our relationship with God. (smile) And our whole lives, we make choices.

(smile) Islam is not a static, passive state. It is a continual active struggle.

(meditatively) Personally, I do not like the walls we put between one another. We say this person is Muslim and that person is a kaafir (a person who actively covers their heart to deny and block out God). But who are we to make such pronouncements?! Who amongst us knows the true state of a person's relationship with God? I have read a hadith about some of the first people into the Fire... and they are a scholar who pretended to be studying Islam for the Sake of God and a martyr who pretended to die for God's sake. These are people who labelled themselves as Muslims... but they were not.

No scholar of any note that I am aware of has presumed to say whether those who label themselves as Christian or Jewish are surely going into the Fire. I would suspect that this should be extended to other groups, too. Because within each label-group, you can find people who genuinely appear to be striving to please God to the best of their knowledge and ability. And I say to myself: perhaps they have a better connection and effort than myself? Because I really don't know. Only God Knows.

(smile) So, Striving, if you feel that you need to look around and understand your relationship with God in a more profound way... well, this is your journey. And it sounds rather promising to me, actually.

(smile) I have read (and I continue to read) texts from many label-groups. And I talk with many different people. (smile) And the more I learn, the more I feel closer to God. (smile) Because, you see, God Sent His Messengers and Prophets all through time to all peoples. Which is why you can find echoes of His Will in all cultures. (smile) And this, to me, is a very spiritually invigorating and beautiful thing.

So go for it, Striving... look around. Let go of your sure assumptions and dig into the matter: What is God's Will? How can I know it? What should I do? How can I best accomplish it?

(smile) And I pray you may find what you are looking for.


May God, the Wise, the Compassionate, Guide and Protect all those who sincerely seek Him.
That was beautiful.
 
tbh i dont really care what you believe and im not going to read a nine page thread to "understand"
what you believe in now is irrelevant. whether your buddhist christian jewish hindu atheist a jedi or believe in a flying spaghetti monster it will all wind up with you going to one place on the day of judgement. hellfire khalidina feeha
that is of course unless you repent and return to islam
i cbb with this conversation any longer but i just want you to know bro as long as your soul hasnt left your throat or the sun hasnt risen from the west it isnt too late for you to repent

come back to Allah bro make taubah.
dont be yet another casualty of the shaitaan

“Verily, Allah is more delighted with the repentance of His slave than a person who lost his camel in a desert land and then finds it (unexpectedly)”.[Bukhari and Muslim].In another version of Muslim, he said:“Verily, Allah is more pleased with the repentance of His slave than a person who has his camel in a waterless desert carrying his provision of food and drink and it is lost. He, having lost all hopes (to get that back), lies down in shade and is disappointed about his camel; when all of a sudden he finds that camel standing before him. He takes hold of its reins and then out of boundless joy blurts out: 'O Allah, You are my slave and I am Your Rubb'.He commits this mistake out of extreme joy.”
I am a believer in one God, but I don't label myself as a Muslim.
 
Assalaamu alaikum,


(mildly) You know, the word Muslim means someone who actively tries to surrender to God's Will. (smile) And this implies that we must seek God and try to understand His Will. (smile) And as we get closer to this harmony with His Will, we feel calm and peaceful inside.

(smile) I actually applaud your efforts, Striving. (smile) Because I do not believe that Muslim is a label you inherit from your ancestors. Islam is not genetically acquired. It is a relationship you choose with the Divine. We talk about born-Muslims and reverts and suchlike. But I do not believe in these. Because we are all born in a state of Islam (in harmony with God's Will). And when we become adults we must all make choices about our relationship with God. (smile) And our whole lives, we make choices.

(smile) Islam is not a static, passive state. It is a continual active struggle.

(meditatively) Personally, I do not like the walls we put between one another. We say this person is Muslim and that person is a kaafir (a person who actively covers their heart to deny and block out God). But who are we to make such pronouncements?! Who amongst us knows the true state of a person's relationship with God? I have read a hadith about some of the first people into the Fire... and they are a scholar who pretended to be studying Islam for the Sake of God and a martyr who pretended to die for God's sake. These are people who labelled themselves as Muslims... but they were not.

No scholar of any note that I am aware of has presumed to say whether those who label themselves as Christian or Jewish are surely going into the Fire. I would suspect that this should be extended to other groups, too. Because within each label-group, you can find people who genuinely appear to be striving to please God to the best of their knowledge and ability. And I say to myself: perhaps they have a better connection and effort than myself? Because I really don't know. Only God Knows.

(smile) So, Striving, if you feel that you need to look around and understand your relationship with God in a more profound way... well, this is your journey. And it sounds rather promising to me, actually.

(smile) I have read (and I continue to read) texts from many label-groups. And I talk with many different people. (smile) And the more I learn, the more I feel closer to God. (smile) Because, you see, God Sent His Messengers and Prophets all through time to all peoples. Which is why you can find echoes of His Will in all cultures. (smile) And this, to me, is a very spiritually invigorating and beautiful thing.

So go for it, Striving... look around. Let go of your sure assumptions and dig into the matter: What is God's Will? How can I know it? What should I do? How can I best accomplish it?

(smile) And I pray you may find what you are looking for.


May God, the Wise, the Compassionate, Guide and Protect all those who sincerely seek Him.
That is just beautiful advice.
 
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We have a genuine concern to see you on the straight path (yes, there is only one), and strive to save you from paths that might lead to the hell fire, just like I mentioned in an earlier post. If you had to go to school and knew there was a raging fire along the way, your parents would say to you, the authorities would say to you, please avoid x route, take y route. If you take x route, you are likely to be harmed.

Similarly, when parents bring up their children, and strive to instil in them morals and manners so they can grow up to be good and decent human beings, do they let the toddler or child investigate bad manners and try them out and come to it's own conclusion as to which is best? No.

I understand that when people are struggling to find God, that many people will and have investigated other religions before coming to Islam. Islam does not tell us to accept it on blind faith, but to think, ponder, consider, reflect. For some, that may include looking at other faiths to see which is true. Know, though, that there is only one truth. There is no pick 'n mix approach that can be taken, eg lets take the best bits from every faith and remain on that and God knows my intentions to see His will so it should be ok.

Allah clearly states in the Qur'an, that whoever brings a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the hereafter, he will be of the losers. Yet, despite urging people that Islam is the truth and the only way, you've been given freedom to make your own choice. Sure, a person may say, I follow Islam because I am surrendering to the will of God best I can. But what are the definitions of Muslim, in Quran and hadeeth? Well, to become a Muslim, a person cannot declare that there is only one God. That does not make you a Muslim. To enter into the state of being and the way of life known as Islam, you have to believe and declare, that Muhammad :saws:, is the messenger and slave of Allah. Many will be familiar with the famous hadeeth of Jibreel, which was designed to teach Muslims their religion. The Prophet :saws: said in it, that Islam is that you worship Allah and do not associate anything with Him and you establish obligatory prayer and you pay the obligatory poor-rate (Zakat) and you observe the fast of Ramadan. "

Part of a longer hadeeth
Sahih al-Bukhari 50
Sahih Muslim 8e


Belief in the Prophet being automatically assumed as he :saws: is the one telling you all this. So here, it is not only both parts of the shahaadah, but also performing certain actions that demonstrate to God your faith.

No scholar of any note that I am aware of has presumed to say whether those who label themselves as Christian or Jewish are surely going into the Fire. I would suspect that this should be extended to other groups, too. Because within each label-group, you can find people who genuinely appear to be striving to please God to the best of their knowledge and ability. And I say to myself: perhaps they have a better connection and effort than myself? Because I really don't know. Only God Knows.

Allah has also made certain things Crystal clear in the Qur'an. There is no confusion as to the only acceptable way now. Why should we go for the bare minimum (or that may even fall short of that), and what is dubious, likely dangerous, leaving the straight way that has been laid out clear? Otherwise, our praying many times a day guide us to the straight path, is pointless, if any path might be straight. It doesn't say guide us the straight paths, but the straight path. Just one. If we think that those who say Jesus :as: is God could have a better connection with God, which is what the above implies, then we should know that the connection is not the basis or the foundation on which everything else is built - it is the core belief, the faith, the aqeedah that matters. Everything else is built on that. Many devout polytheists have a strong connection to the supreme God, and the intermediaries and other Gods they associate with Him, but what does Allah say about them in the Qur'an?

Furthermore, regarding the straight path, the path of those whom Allah favored, the path we pray for at least 17 times a day, it is the path of the following:

Those were the ones upon whom Allah bestowed favour from among the prophets of the descendants of Adam and of those We carried [in the ship] with Noah, and of the descendants of Abraham and Israel, and of those whom We guided and chose. When the verses of the Most Merciful were recited to them, they fell in prostration and weeping. (19:58)

The path of Abraham (peace be upon him):

[He was] grateful for His favors. Allah chose him and guided him to a straight path. (16:121)

The path of Moses and Aaron (peace be upon them):

And We guided them both on the straight path. (37:118)

The path Jesus (peace be upon him) called to:

"Indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is the straight path." (3:51 , 19:36 and 43:64)

and the guidance given to, and path of, the following:

And We gave to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - all [of them] We guided. And Noah, We guided before; and among his descendants, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the doers of good.
And Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias - and all were of the righteous.
And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot - and all [of them] We preferred over the worlds.
And [some] among their fathers and their descendants and their brothers - and We chose them and We guided them to a straight path.
That is the guidance of Allah by which He guides whomever He wills of His servants. But if they had associated others with Allah , then worthless for them would be whatever they were doing
Those are the ones to whom We gave the Scripture and authority and prophethood. But if the disbelievers deny it, then We have entrusted it to a people who are not therein disbelievers.
Those are the ones whom Allah has guided, so from their guidance take an example. Say, "I ask of you for this message no payment. It is not but a reminder for the worlds."
(6:84-90)

The last word in the passage is significant, that it is a reminder for all the worlds, from, if we look at Surah al-Faatihah, the Lord of all the worlds.

The path we are seeking, is not just a path specific to Muhammad :saws:, because that was not a different path from the others. The path has always been the same, but the other prophets teachings got distorted/corrupted/forgotten. Islam is the culmination of the same Ultimate Universal Truth that all the Prophets, peace be upon them, preached; the same message they all brought, from the same God. Islam is not a new or different religion, but what has always been since the time of Adam (peace be upon him), the only one unchanged, thus the only straight path.

We seek to join all the Prophets mentioned, and their righteous ancestors, descendants and brethren in the guidance given to them. This large company of believers, whom we seek to join in Surah al-Faatihah, is reinforced at the end of the salaat: "Peace be to us and the righteous servants of Allah".

Strivingfordeen, you mention the previous prophets a lot, so please ponder on what you've just read.

We make this dua or request to Allah, referring to ourselves in the plural, even for a Muslim reciting it on his own, showing that he sees himself as part of a brotherhood of believers, and his dua is not just for him, but for all who seek such a way, namely, the straight path.

smile) So, Striving, if you feel that you need to look around and understand your relationship with God in a more profound way... well, this is your journey. And it sounds rather promising to me, actually.

We hope and pray that he consciously sees Islam as the truth and comes back to the right path.

smile) I have read (and I continue to read) texts from many label-groups. And I talk with many different people. (smile) And the more I learn, the more I feel closer to God. (smile) Because, you see, God Sent His Messengers and Prophets all through time to all peoples. Which is why you can find echoes of His Will in all cultures. (smile) And this, to me, is a very spiritually invigorating and beautiful thing.

This maybe, but echos are echos. Let us now follow what is loud and clear, here and now. At the time of each respective previous Prophet, there was only one right way, which the prophet of the time taught. Allah tells us:

And when Jesus :as: brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and obey me.(43:63)

He called to that straight path that we pray to be steadfast on:

The Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord." (5:72, part)

Allah had to be worshipped alone, and Isa alayhissalaam had to be obeyed.

What did Nuh :as: say to his people:

'Worship Allah , fear Him and obey me." (71:3)

You say you are interested in the previous prophets. They all preached the same message. believe in and worship Allah alone without any associate in His Divinity, and obey the Prophet. To follow the previous prophets, you've got to obey the last one, because his preserved message is a confirmation, continuation and culmination, of the previous original scriptures.

Doesn't sound too hard, does it?

So go for it, Striving... look around. Let go of your sure assumptions and dig into the matter: What is God's Will? How can I know it? What should I do? How can I best accomplish it?

And where is that found? In the Qur'an. The sunnah. In Islam.

smile) And I pray you may find what you are looking for.

That depends on what someone is looking for, as what they are looking for might inadvertently not actually be the best thing for them. Let us pray he finds and comes back into the fold of Islam, back onto the straight path, ameen.
 
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We have a genuine concern to see you on the straight path (yes, there is only one), and strive to save you from paths that might lead to the hell fire, just like I mentioned in an earlier post. If you had to go to school and knew there was a raging fire along the way, your parents would say to you, the authorities would say to you, please avoid x route, take y route. If you take x route, you are likely to be harmed.

Similarly, when parents bring up their children, and strive to instil in them morals and manners so they can grow up to be good and decent human beings, do they let the toddler or child investigate bad manners and try them out and come to it's own conclusion as to which is best? No.

I understand that when people are struggling to find God, that many people will and have investigated other religions before coming to Islam. Islam does not tell us to accept it on blind faith, but to think, ponder, consider, reflect. For some, that may include looking at other faiths to see which is true. Know, though, that there is only one truth. There is no pick 'n mix approach that can be taken, eg lets take the best bits from every faith and remain on that and God knows my intentions to see His will so it should be ok.

Allah clearly states in the Qur'an, that whoever brings a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the hereafter, he will be of the losers. Yet, despite urging people that Islam is the truth and the only way, you've been given freedom to make your own choice. Sure, a person may say, I follow Islam because I am surrendering to the will of God best I can. But what are the definitions of Muslim, in Quran and hadeeth? Well, to become a Muslim, a person cannot declare that there is only one God. That does not make you a Muslim. To enter into the state of being and the way of life known as Islam, you have to believe and declare, that Muhammad :saws:, is the messenger and slave of Allah. Many will be familiar with the famous hadeeth of Jibreel, which was designed to teach Muslims their religion. The Prophet :saws: said in it, that Islam is that you worship Allah and do not associate anything with Him and you establish obligatory prayer and you pay the obligatory poor-rate (Zakat) and you observe the fast of Ramadan. "

Part of a longer hadeeth
Sahih al-Bukhari 50
Sahih Muslim 8e


Belief in the Prophet being automatically assumed as he :saws: is the one telling you all this. So here, it is not only both parts of the shahaadah, but also performing certain actions that demonstrate to God your faith.



Allah has also made certain things Crystal clear in the Qur'an. There is no confusion as to the only acceptable way now. Why should we go for the bare minimum (or that may even fall short of that), and what is dubious, likely dangerous, leaving the straight way that has been laid out clear? Otherwise, our praying many times a day guide us to the straight path, is pointless, if any path might be straight. It doesn't say guide us the straight paths, but the straight path. Just one. If we think that those who say Jesus :as: is God could have a better connection with God, which is what the above implies, then we should know that the connection is not the basis or the foundation on which everything else is built - it is the core belief, the faith, the aqeedah that matters. Everything else is built on that. Many devout polytheists have a strong connection to the supreme God, and the intermediaries and other Gods they associate with Him, but what does Allah say about them in the Qur'an?

Furthermore, regarding the straight path, the path of those whom Allah favored, the path we pray for at least 17 times a day, it is the path of the following:

Those were the ones upon whom Allah bestowed favour from among the prophets of the descendants of Adam and of those We carried [in the ship] with Noah, and of the descendants of Abraham and Israel, and of those whom We guided and chose. When the verses of the Most Merciful were recited to them, they fell in prostration and weeping. (19:58)

The path of Abraham (peace be upon him):

[He was] grateful for His favors. Allah chose him and guided him to a straight path. (16:121)

The path of Moses and Aaron (peace be upon them):

And We guided them both on the straight path. (37:118)

The path Jesus (peace be upon him) called to:

"Indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is the straight path." (3:51 , 19:36 and 43:64)

and the guidance given to, and path of, the following:

And We gave to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - all [of them] We guided. And Noah, We guided before; and among his descendants, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the doers of good.
And Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias - and all were of the righteous.
And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot - and all [of them] We preferred over the worlds.
And [some] among their fathers and their descendants and their brothers - and We chose them and We guided them to a straight path.
That is the guidance of Allah by which He guides whomever He wills of His servants. But if they had associated others with Allah , then worthless for them would be whatever they were doing
Those are the ones to whom We gave the Scripture and authority and prophethood. But if the disbelievers deny it, then We have entrusted it to a people who are not therein disbelievers.
Those are the ones whom Allah has guided, so from their guidance take an example. Say, "I ask of you for this message no payment. It is not but a reminder for the worlds."
(6:84-90)

The last word in the passage is significant, that it is a reminder for all the worlds, from, if we look at Surah al-Faatihah, the Lord of all the worlds.

The path we are seeking, is not just a path specific to Muhammad :saws:, because that was not a different path from the others. The path has always been the same, but the other prophets teachings got distorted/corrupted/forgotten. Islam is the culmination of the same Ultimate Universal Truth that all the Prophets, peace be upon them, preached; the same message they all brought, from the same God. Islam is not a new or different religion, but what has always been since the time of Adam (peace be upon him), the only one unchanged, thus the only straight path.

We seek to join all the Prophets mentioned, and their righteous ancestors, descendants and brethren in the guidance given to them. This large company of believers, whom we seek to join in Surah al-Faatihah, is reinforced at the end of the salaat: "Peace be to us and the righteous servants of Allah".

Strivingfordeen, you mention the previous prophets a lot, so please ponder on what you've just read.

We make this dua or request to Allah, referring to ourselves in the plural, even for a Muslim reciting it on his own, showing that he sees himself as part of a brotherhood of believers, and his dua is not just for him, but for all who seek such a way, namely, the straight path.



We hope and pray that he consciously sees Islam as the truth and comes back to the right path.



This maybe, but echos are echos. Let us now follow what is loud and clear, here and now. At the time of each respective previous Prophet, there was only one right way, which the prophet of the time taught. Allah tells us:

And when Jesus :as: brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and obey me.(43:63)

He called to that straight path that we pray to be steadfast on:

The Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord." (5:72, part)

Allah had to be worshipped alone, and Isa alayhissalaam had to be obeyed.

What did Nuh :as: say to his people:

'Worship Allah , fear Him and obey me." (71:3)

You say you are interested in the previous prophets. They all preached the same message. believe in and worship Allah alone without any associate in His Divinity, and obey the Prophet. To follow the previous prophets, you've got to obey the last one, because his preserved message is a confirmation, continuation and culmination, of the previous original scriptures.

Doesn't sound too hard, does it?



And where is that found? In the Qur'an. The sunnah. In Islam.



That depends on what someone is looking for, as what they are looking for might inadvertently not actually be the best thing for them. Let us pray he finds and comes back into the fold of Islam, back onto the straight path, ameen.
I said I am interested in their stories. I am waiting for Gods guidance. I will hopefully make the right decision. Yes, Islam sounds convincing but I do not have conviction yet. I
 
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