Palestine is ‘property of Islam’!

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Moses said unto his people (the Israelites): "Remember the good deeds that Allah has done for you, who appointed and gave you prophets and rulers, something he has not given to any other nation in the world; and now, my people (the Israelites), enter the Holy Land which Allah has destined for you. Do not turn back because otherwise you might be doomed and come to ruin." Surah 5:20-21

Then we said to the children of Israel: "Dwell in the land, and when the promise of the hereafter will be fulfilled, we shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations." Surah 17:104

what do these scriptures mean?

Ther followerers of Musa turned back and forgot Allah. Andf thery also turned back and left ther land.

And it says childeren of Israel, not Jews
 
thanks i understand now...

but don't the Jews still worship the one true God.
yeah but they don't believe in all the prophets including the last prophet muhammad (SAW). so how can they have the true word of God to follow His laws correctly?
 
thanks i understand now...

but don't the Jews still worship the one true God.

Yes but they have distorted their religion and changed it according to what they want to believe.
 
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peace Nicola

Moses said unto his people (the Israelites): "Remember the good deeds that Allah has done for you, who appointed and gave you prophets and rulers, something he has not given to any other nation in the world; and now, my people (the Israelites), enter the Holy Land which Allah has destined for you. Do not turn back because otherwise you might be doomed and come to ruin." Surah 5:20-21

Then we let the people (Israel), who were despised, inherit the Eastern and western parts of the land which we had blessed. And the fair word of the Lord was fulfilled for the children of Israel because of their endurance. Surah 7:137

Then we said to the children of Israel: "Dwell in the land, and when the promise of the hereafter will be fulfilled, we shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations." Surah 17:104


what do these scriptures mean?


005.021 "O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin."


Here the verse says “O my people” people who r guided by Prophet Moss [pubh]

And Prophet Moss [pubh] guided by Allaah (SWT)

So it is petty much clear that “O my people” r those people who follow the path of Allaah (SWT)

now thequestion is........... r u follow the path of Allaah(SWT)???

u certainly not.....

in other ways

were not u those people who changed the Law of GOD
but amazing thing is that u still claiming the same gift from GOD which he gave u when u were guided
very interesting claim
 
seems strange after all these years...there still isn't even one.

peace nicola,

examine history, whenever muslims come close then the west destroys it such as what happened in afghanistan recently.

that is not to excuse the muslims, Allah (swt) grants the people the leaders they deserve (look at the US and Bush) so both have to come together,

the implimentation of an islamic state and the reform of the muslim people so we deserve such a situation.

peace,

Daw'ud
 
So true! The muslims will soon have their rightly deserved land! The jews disobeyed God's command and strayed from the straight path so Palestine isn't theirs anymore.
 
So true! The muslims will soon have their rightly deserved land! The jews disobeyed God's command and strayed from the straight path so Palestine isn't theirs anymore.

Salaam

We should remember the jews can't use the promised land excuse cause the jews which followed Moses was muslim since they followed the laws of allah.
 
Salaam
We should remember the jews can't use the promised land excuse cause the jews which followed Moses was muslim since they followed the laws of allah.

The Jews have a history of 5,000 years

Islam began about 1,400 years ago and therefore Moses was not a Muslim.
He was a Jew.
 
Then how about you educate us?

You could go back 2,000 years and tell us the definition of Muslim before the prophet (pbuh) was born????

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But virtually all states have borders that were set by war and ethnic cleansing. If it is timeless, how far back should we go? 20 years? 50 years? 100 years? 500 years? 3000 years? If we want we can go back all the way to the ancient world and base the borders of nations on that. This is in fact exactly what the extremist Jews are doing, they are following the same logic.

If we apply your logic to Europe we will have to redraw all borders, especially considering what happened after both WW1 and WW2.

I don't think you have to redraw borders - and what happened after WW1? - but you do need to let the Germans et al return to their homes where they lived before 1945. In the case of Palestine it is easier because the refugees are still in camps waiting to go home. They have a legal and moral right to go home. That needs to be enforced.

The existence of Israel provides no benefits to anyone. It is a strategic and moral liability to the West. It can only exist through the wholesale abuse of Palestinian human rights. The Jewish Israelis would be better off in the West. I think the West needs to offer them all that choice.
 
Then how about you educate us?

You could go back 2,000 years and tell us the definition of Muslim before the prophet (pbuh) was born????

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Salaam

Moses taught the laws of allah so we see him as a muslim. Same goes for the rest of the prophets.
 
Ther followerers of Musa turned back and forgot Allah. Andf thery also turned back and left ther land.

And it says childeren of Israel, not Jews


Jews neither Christians believe Allah is God. So you are right Jews have turned their back on Alllah.


Israel was the new name God gave to Jacob...and he was a Jew.
 
Then how about you educate us?

You could go back 2,000 years and tell us the definition of Muslim before the prophet (pbuh) was born????

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muslim is the arabic for someone who submits to the will of Allah.
so if moses is the prophet of Allah then he is a muslim and so are his followers...-GET IT?!
 

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