Sikhism

sikhism is a made up new so called religion....it waz created in da Sikh Period: 1762-1849 A.D.
The Sikhs established their empire in the Punjab after the death of the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb Alamgir in 1707. With the death of Aurangzeb the country saw a series of rapid governmental changes that stressed it in to the depths of anarchy.


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Well, that's a slant on the real history. The Mughal Empire was greater than just its Hindustani terrirories. It expanded Westwards, through Afghanistan and the Middle East. But the Khalsa Panth established by Guru Gobind Singh Ji literally forced the Mughal räj out of India.

The reason it started was because Guru Gobind Singh Ji disapproved of the fascist autocracy that the Mughals had going. In fact, he wasn't the only one. There were groups of Muslims and Hindus who also disagreed with it vehemently. What Guru Gobind Singh Ji created was a highly-effective army. He started with peaceful methods of negotiation, etc, but after a number of genocidal acts on the part of the Mughal government, the Guru's hand was forced into utilising his army.

After his death, the Khalsa went on to conduct a military campaign of guerilla warfare. Soon, the most feared army in the East was the only one that didn't have a country. Once the Khalsa räj of Maharaja Ranjeet Singh finally began, all religions were welcome to exist as they were with no discrimination. This humanism and equality had always been the goal of the Tenth Master, Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

There is in fact a story when a number of Hindu officials in Ranjeet Singh's kingdom came complaining that they didn't like the fact that the Mosque was calling Muslims to prayer five times a day. They made a request for him to stop allowing Mosques to do this. Ranjeet Singh agreed to this...as long as those same Hindus were willing to knock on the door of every Muslim in the kingdom and call them to prayers. Naturally, the Hindu leaders retreated.:giggling:
 
the Quran might be a divine scripture, but it is not an eternal scripture..it was only sent for the arabs........


If its divine then it means its from God. We both agree God can't lie. God says in the Qur'an that the Priophet Muhammed PBUH is sent for the rest of humanity. He also says the Prophet PBUH does not say anything of his own accord, thus everything Prophet Muhammed PBUH has said and done has been by the will of Allah. He said I am the last prophet sent to the whole of mankind. Ie implying Guru nanek or anyone else to come arfter him can't actually be a prophet/messenger/guru or whatever way you like to classify the gurus.

So either it is telling the truth or it is not. either it is divine or it is not. which one is it?

why did'n Muhammad travel the world to spread his message if he was a universel prophet? Guru Nanak visited large parts of the world to spread his message and was accepted by people of all religions, as they saw him as divine

Now not only did Prophet Muhammed send letters to different nations, but like Zohair also said he also sent his companions to different parts of the world, and today if you look at the graves of the noble companions, you will find not many of them are in mecca/medina, but they are buried in places as far as egypt Syrria palestine Iraq Iran and China even.

Now you say guru naneks message was accepted by all, but nobody converted to sikhism apart from a few small numkber of people in Punjab, and it was most probably due to the unrest that was being caused by the fighting between the muslims and hindus, and Sikhism provided answers at a time that provided some form of peace. it goes without saying if islam had ben practised properly there would never have been such blood shed between muslims and hindus. Islam on the other hand converted the whole Of Medina while it was still a minority and under under attack from the powerful pagans at the time. It peacefully spread to the whole of Arabia, and plces as far as Malaysia Indonesia peacefully without any need for force
 
TWe say the followers of Islam and hinduism went astray.
Hindu scriptures only talks about One God..hinduism is a monoteistic religion, yet the followers worship several Gods..they fell astray from their scriptures in many ways.

same goes with muslims. Right after the death of Muhamad, Muslims started robbing and conquering the world. yet Muhammad never attacked a different tribe or nation. he only deffended himself. they killed people, and forced indians to become muslims...destroyed churches and hindu temples, even though muhammad never did such a thing..

Muslims focused more on this life, on creating a huge khilafah state, and forgot all about their Imaan and spirituality...therefore, Guru Nanak was sent to this earth by Allah Subhana Wa Tala..not as a Nabi, not as a rasool,,,but as a Guru...a spiritual teacher.

there are just a few examples on how people fell astray from the original teachings of Islam, hinduism and chrittianty...
 
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yeah I heard also that they believe in the Prophet Muhammad (sws).. that its written is some of their books but then the prophet has an other name well, basicly its the same name only in their language. And that he is the last prophet to come..
Like this was already mention in their books, before the time of the prophet. so like their book predict the comming of the prophet :confused:

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I haven't read any such lines from the Granth, but I am certain that Mohammad is mentioned. A lot of Guru Nanak's verses are direct reactions to Muslims and Hindus with whom he met on his travels, and he very often uses the Islamic and Vedic belief systems to illustrate certain points. Of course, some people like to take single words out of context (Muslims jump on mentions of Islamic things and Hindus jump on mentions of Vedic things to claim that he was a Muslim or a Hindu respectively, but neither are getting the point; Nanak rejected the notion of any religion, and hence neither argument from either side makes any sense). Guru Nanak attempted to teach human compassion and the existence of One God. He used both Muslim and Hindu imagery to explain this depending on with whom he was talking:

For example:

"It is not easy to be called a Mussalman:
If there were one let him be so known.
He should first take to his heart the tenets of his faith and purge himself of all pride.
He will be a Mussalman who pursues the path shown by the founder of the creed;
who extinguishes anxiety about life and death;
who accepts the will of God as supreme;
who has faith in the Creator and surrenders himself to the Almighty.
When he has established his goodwill for all - O, Nanak - then will he be called a Mussalman."


Guru Granth Sahib
Var Mag, p.141

Here, Guru Nanak is stating that the true Muslim is the one who understands that life and death is no object, that there is but one God, and that his Will shall always be done...and to make peace with this, as per the instruction of the Prophet Mohammad. With no pride and nothing but love and "goodwill for all", only then does one become worthy of the title of a 'Muslim'.

And what of religious practices? What does Guru Nanak have to say about Islamic (well, any religion's) rituals and their worth? In the following passage, Guru Nanak talks of how virtuous deeds - and not mere ritualisms whereby one only has to go through a set form of actions - should be what are valued above all else.

"Let compassion be your mosque,
Let faith be your prayer mat,
Let honest living be your Koran,
Let modesty be the rules of observance,
Let piety be the fasts you keep;
In such wisdom try to become a Muslim:
Right conduct the Ka'ba; Truth the Prophet;
Good deeds your prayer;
Submission to the Lord's Will your rosary;
Nanak, if this you do, the Lord will be yuor Protector."


Guru Granth Sahib
Asa, p.141

Now, I'm sure you can see why some Muslims might look at the number of terms from Islamic scripture in that passage and say "Guru Nanak is a Muslim!", but if you read the actual application of those terms, you will see that Guru Nanak is very respectfully saying that such practices - be they Muslim or Hindu practices - are of little merit. They do not make one a better person or make one 'a favourite of God'. The only thing worth anything is a humble and compassionate life. Exchanging the motions of rituals with such virtue is what makes one a happy and complete human being. The Muslim who embraces this is a 'True Muslim', and the Hindu who embraces this is a 'True Hindu'.

Ooh...didn't I go on?! ;D

Hope that clears up the issue :peace:
 
Where does it say that Muhammad is for entire of mankind?

and if he was, yet again, why did'n he travel to the world?

i've read the letters he sent to persia and etopia...they only say he is the messenger of God and i invite you to Islam.....

how does this make him a universal prophet, if he did'n even leave the side of Arabia?

at the time of Muhammad, only the people near him were muslims. at the time of the Gurus, there were sikhs in afghanistan, iran and iraq as well as india..
 
people commented on how the followers of a religion is false, but not the religion itself. this statement has no basis to it, as muslims deduct all of the teachings from the holy qur'an. and it is historically and scientifically proven to be the exact same words as it was at the time of Muhammad SAW, so there is absolutely no change from the qur'an then, and the qur'an now.

so how is it that the followers of islam are wrong, when we are following the same qur'an as Muhammad SAW. everything that we do is in the qur'an.

so the teachings of guru nanak don't really make any sense, they say that the qur'an is true, and that Muhammad SAW was a messenger of god. and yet if you follow Muhammad SAW, apparently you have gone astray. the teachings of Muhammad SAW state that no prophet and no new religion will come after him, and that there will be no more sacred books after the quran.

and the same person keeps on responding in the same way to me:

"we don't believe in the qur'an," but according to what I have heard from the other sikhs, apparently you believe in Muhammad SAW being the messenger of god. and his teaching state that sikhism is not a way to get into heaven...

its like someone is saying to people that he is a prophet. lets call this so called prophet, prophet1. so prophet1 says that this other person is a prophet. letse call this othe prophet, prophet 2. prophet1 says that prophet 2 is right, and he is sent by god. and yet prophet2 is saying that prophet1 is a liar.

thats a perfect analogyh.
 
Where does it say that Muhammad is for entire of mankind?

and if he was, yet again, why did'n he travel to the world?

i've read the letters he sent to persia and etopia...they only say he is the messenger of God and i invite you to Islam.....

how does this make him a universal prophet, if he did'n even leave the side of Arabia?

at the time of Muhammad, only the people near him were muslims. at the time of the Gurus, there were sikhs in afghanistan, iran and iraq as well as india..


sighhh, read my posts! in the quran, it says that he was sent for mankind. thats what makes him a universal prophet.
 
As difficult as it may seem for others to comprehend, Guru Nanak was sent by God! How would it look if he said that he was the true messenger? He'd have faltered from his mission. God created all the main religions judaism/Christianity/Islam/Hinduism and then Sikhism! He could say that all the other's we're false, but no, because God created them, but God saw his creation was going astray once again, so then Guru Nanak took birth!


Mitee dhund Jag Chaanan hoya, Satgur Nanak Pargatiya

The fog of ignorance dispelled when Guru Nanak Dev came and all light shone.

No i don't agree. God is one. He can only have one way. There can't be two ideologies from the same God contradicting one another. either God is everywhere or he is in heaven, not both. Either jesus is son of god or he is a prophet not both. Either there is One god, or there is more than one God. Either we all came from adam/Eve or we didn't. there is either a day of judgment and heaven/hell for everyone, or there is re-incarnation.

This is the part where i don't understand sikhism. Islam answers this perfectly. Gos through the essence of time from the first person Adam PBUh to Muhammed PBUH sent just one religion. Islam. Meaning Submission and surrendering in peaceful means to god. We obey what he has told us, and whoever obeys him is in arabic called a Muslim. For more infromation on basic principles of Islam visit here

Now by definition Adam was a Muslim, so was Noah Abraham Moses and Jesus, as they all submitted to God's will. You say God created judaism and Christianity, but in the Bible the words Judaism and christianity are not mentioned anywhere, and nowhere does Moses AS say he is a Jew or for that matter Jesus PBUH does not say he is a Christian, but both say they bow and submitt to God. (Which is what a muslim means). even with religions like Hindusim and Buddhism Zorastianism there is strong evidence that these religions were originally islam, but people changed it. There are several prophecies of prophet Muhammed, some in name, some in description of him, some in events he takes part in, in all of those scriptures

God has sent down one religion, but people have created different religions
 
post the ayat agian, i cant seem to find it..

Muhammad was a Prophet indeed, but Nanak Dev Mahraj was a Guru..its not the same thing..

do you think that when the muslims after the death of Muhammad pbuh went and conquered the world, killing tens of thousands of people, that they were following the sunnah? they fell astray...."muslims" started loving this world more than the afterlife..

we are not saying that the true muslims who follow the Quran, are astray..but the fact of the matter is, that there are more people claiming to be muslims not followin the teachings, then there are true muslims following the teachings.

same goes with christiand and hindues..God reacted to this by sending Guru Nanak Maharaj..the only spiritual leader in the world, to ever be accepted by people of all religions..
 
No i don't agree. God is one. He can only have one way. There can't be two ideologies from the same God contradicting one another. either God is everywhere or he is in heaven, not both. Either jesus is son of god or he is a prophet not both. Either there is One god, or there is more than one God. Either we all came from adam/Eve or we didn't. there is either a day of judgment and heaven/hell for everyone, or there is re-incarnation.

i was going to india and was going to meat my friend there who lives in pakistan.. he took the train to india, while i took the plain.

we both took each of ours mean of transportation, yet we both ended up the same place.

how can u say there is only one way to attain God??? the plain and the train also contradict eachother..
we dont say all religions are true...we just say that people of all religions can attain paradise..



This is the part where i don't understand sikhism. Islam answers this perfectly. Gos through the essence of time from the first person Adam PBUh to Muhammed PBUH sent just one religion. Islam. Meaning Submission and surrendering in peaceful means to god. We obey what he has told us, and whoever obeys him is in arabic called a Muslim. For more infromation on basic principles of Islam visit here

yes according to Islam they were all muslims. but according to their own scriptures, they did lots of things which Islam forbid...Suleiman married 600 women, and all the prophet did lots of things which is not allowed in Islam.

its like, if i create a religion, and then just say that all previus prophets belonged to my religion, even though all of their scriptures proves me wrong..then i can just say that their scripture is corrupt and VOILA i have a complete platform to create a religion..

Now by definition Adam was a Muslim, so was Noah Abraham Moses and Jesus, as they all submitted to God's will. You say God created judaism and Christianity, but in the Bible the words Judaism and christianity are not mentioned anywhere, and nowhere does Moses AS say he is a Jew or for that matter Jesus PBUH does not say he is a Christian, but both say they bow and submitt to God. (Which is what a muslim means). even with religions like Hindusim and Buddhism Zorastianism there is strong evidence that these religions were originally islam, but people changed it. There are several prophecies of prophet Muhammed, some in name, some in description of him, some in events he takes part in, in all of those scriptures

yeah an all of these "propecies" about Muhammad have been proved wrong by christians, hindues and budhists... muslims take verses out of contex and only use the verses which fits to Muhamad..


God has sent down one religion, but people have created different religions

God sent One religion...Worship of God....and this worship can be done in several ways..
 
Why do we need to follow him? We have respect for him as he's a messenger of the Almighty, but we do not accept him to be anything else. ![/B]


if you accept him as a messnger, you will believe that he won't lie, as God only chooses noble trustowrthy pious god-fearing epople for his cause, and Muhammed PBUH even before the advent of islam was known for his honesty. He was called The Trustworthy one by the whole of mecca, even by the pagans, and even after he converted, people continued to keep their belongings with him as they trusted him. Yet he says he is the last prophet, with nobody to come after him, and he instrcucts all people from his time till the last day who hear of his mesage to follow his way Al-Islam.

We believe Sikhism is the true way as it is the last religion created by the Almighty

There are many other religions who have also claimed to be the last religion. just to name a few Ahmaddiyahs NOI Mormons bahaiism, so why not follow that?

Shahul Hameed says it quite right here

Qualities of a Prophet of God

No one can become a prophet of God by his own choosing or effort; Allah has to choose him to be His prophet. And Allah chooses only such persons who have all the qualities necessary for that role, and He does so at the appropriate time in history, and then He protects His prophets from falling into the kind of errors that do not suit a prophet.

The first duty that a prophet of God does is to tell his people that he has been appointed a prophet by God to invite people to His way. Thus, a genuine prophet claims to be a prophet of God, though this claim in itself is not enough. But first and foremost, a prophet has to claim himself to be a prophet of God. The people often question this claim and threaten him to give up his claim. They may even offer him all kinds of temptations that ordinary humans would fall for. But the genuine prophets ignore these and go forward with their God-given mission.

So, the first question you need to ask your Sikh friend is: Did Nanak really claim to be a prophet chosen by God to lead people out of darkness into light?

If the answer is “no,” tell him that this proves that prophethood was conferred on him by his zealous followers and it is meaningless to continue to argue that Nanak was a prophet.

If the answer is “yes,” the second question is: Did Nanak approve of the roles of earlier prophets of God, especially the prophet who came just before him, Muhammad (peace be on him)?

If he says “yes,” ask him then how one can reconcile the fact that Muhammad was the Last Prophet of God and the claim that Nanak was a prophet after the Last Prophet.


The third question is whether all the Sikhs believe that their holy book, called the Adi Granth, was revealed to Nanak by God. If they say “yes,” ask them whether there is any statement to that effect in the book itself and whether Nanak said that the Adi Granth had been fully revealed to him by God. If the answer is in the affirmative, your Sikh friend has to show the proof that the above statements are true, from the Adi Granth itself. This will not be possible for him to do for the following reasons:

1. The Adi Granth is a collection of the writings of many Gurus including Nanak. It was in 1604—Nanak died in 1539—that Arjan Dev, one of the ten Gurus, compiled the hymns of Guru Nanak along with the compositions of both Hindu and Muslim holy men like Jaidev, Surdas, Sheikh Farid and Kabir. The compiled book was enshrined by Arjan in the Golden Temple with the name “Adi Granth.”

2. A prophet of God is a model for all his followers in all aspects of life. But in the case of Sikhism, we find that it was not Guru Nanak, but the tenth Guru, Gobind Singh, who organized the community of Sikhs into a khalsa, “a spiritual brotherhood devoted to purity of thought and action.” He taught his followers to wear long hair (kesh, denoting saintly appearance), underwear (kachha, denoting self-control), an iron bangle (kara, denoting purity in acts), a comb (kangha, denoting cleanliness of mind and body), and a sword (kirpan, denoting fight for a just cause).

3. Towards the end of his life, the aged Nanak returned home to Punjab and settled down at Kartharpur with his family. People came from far and near to hear his hymns and preaching. After his death, his Hindu followers thought him to be a Hindu and his Muslim followers thought him to be a Muslim.

From the foregoing, we understand that Guru Nanak was not a prophet of God, but a religious reformer of his times.

And Allah knows best.

And every word uttered by Guru Nanak and the other Gurus are devine words from God himself!

Same as the Qur'an, every word has come from god. Also as i explained in the previous post Muhammed PBUH had no free will and only ever spoke by thye permission and will of God, so what he says is, in essence, an indriect revelation

Peace
 
Muhammad was indeed a mennenger of God, aswell as Muhammad, Krishna, Isa, Musa, Visnnu and all others..
 
<<If God sent Guru Nanak to become the founder of Sikhism (correct me if I am wrong), does this mean that the other religions are considered false, since you said that "God saw his creation was going astray", although they are simply not stated as being false, out of respect?
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Mod,

your quote is a wrong deduction.

NOWHERE in SGGS is any scripture or religion falsified.

Creation doesnot mean religions, it means the followers of religion.

please, i hope you discern the difference between "religion" and "followers of religion"

SGGS speaks out against the ill practices of the followers of other religions. But nothing about the religions themselves.

those practices might/might not have been part of the religions.

e.g Guru Nanak and Guru Amardas spoke for widow remarriage and against Sati, this doesnot mean the called Hinduism false. but the denounced the wrong deeds of the people, who happened to be followers of Hinduism.

i hope i make my point clear.


Ok but then what about when sikhs say its wrong to have halal meet, or you shouldn't go on useless pilgrimages or mecca or shouldn't pray towards ka'bah. these aren't new innovations by followers of islam, but rather have come from orders from Allah and our prophet PBUH. You believe in him as a prophet but yet you questions the above things and other things like polygamy
 
There are four castes of Hindus and four sects of Muslims in the world
The members of both religions are selfish, jealous, proud, bigoted and violent.
The Hindus make pilgrimage to Hardvar and Banaras, the Muslim to the Kaaba of Mecca.
Circumcision is dear to the Muslims, sandal mark (tilak) and sacred thread to the Hindus.
The Hindus invoke Ram, the Muslims, Rahim, but in reality there is only One God.
Since they have forgotten the Vedas and the Katebas, worldly greed and devil have led them astray.
Truth hidden from both; the brahmins and maulvis kill one another by their animosities.
Neither sect shall find liberation from transmigration. (Guru Nanak dev Ji.)


ok guru nanek being a guru from god should know about the other religions, and can not tell lies or make things up, as with help of divine knowledge from god everything is known.
So why is it sais there are 4 sects of islam. Number one, from early on there were several different movements or sects, more than 4 for sure! Surely he would have known this. if he is referring to the various schools of thoughts, then again he is in grave error as they are not sects, but rather fiqh differences and contain the same theology and creed as each other, and believe in exactly the same thing
 
the word sect could be a wrong translation, or it could talk about the "major" sects from which all the minor sects have sprung from..for instance.

Sunni, Shia, Sufi and a forth which i do not know...
 
There are many other religions who have also claimed to be the last religion. just to name a few Ahmaddiyahs NOI Mormons bahaiism, so why not follow that?

I think you'll find that the above mentioned are not recognised as religions but sects/cults breakaway groups!

Sikhism is recognised as the 5th largest religion in the world!!

Please note - If we talk about Sikhi not being a major religion Islam/Christainity were spread by the sword on crusades. If Guru Gobind Singh ji wanted to convert masses like the above did, he'd have done it, and it should be noted that he'd have acomplished it without hestitation, and it's possible Sikhism would be the dominating religion of today as the the 6th Guru and the 10th were known Saintly warriors!

But Sikhi isn't about quantity but quality :)
 
Greetings,

Thank you for answering my questions. I think I was misunderstood about the SGGS - I was asking whether there are any recordings for us to listen to, and appreciate the musical way in which it is said to be read.

Peace :).
 
yeh.. but i heard it too - that the guru nanak was a muslim and he worshipped one god. but the people imitated his actions and dress code instead of focusing on the beliefs that he had.. but yeh u are right that it was mentioned in the hindu scriptures about our beloved Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him and his family) but under a different name.

According to Guru Nanak, some call Him "Alläh", others call him "Räm"...and there are a thousand others who have a thousand different man-made names for him. None of them are 'true' and none of them are 'false'. They are just different names by which to call the same rose.

And as for the 'form' of Sikkhs, this did not begin to take shape until the sixth guru, Guru Hargobind. But yes, I do agree that there are many Sikkhs who - like the Muslim and Hindu practitioners encountered by Guru Nanak - value their rituals more than the virtue they were supposed to instill.


I've got an idea: let's go through that list of Buddhist scriptures and see how closely it adheres to Guru Nanak. Just for fun :okay:

At his death bed his grief-stricken disciples asked him who will provide them guidance after him. The Buddha consoled them by saying; “Do not think I am the only Buddha. There had been many before me and will be many after me. (Compare this with the Qur’anic Verse 26:9 “say (O Muhammad): I am no new thing among Messengers (of Allah....). At appropriate time a great Buddha will come.”

Personally, I think that the Buddha is saying that wise men have come and gone. Indeed, Guru Nanak promotes associating with those who are devoted to näm (the indescribable 'name') as well. And, of course, Guru Nanak came after Buddha.

* He will be born in a country to west ( and not in India). Remember that Arabia is in the west of India.

It's important not to consider the word "country" in the modern context. Once upon a time, India was not one country, but a throng of warring kingdoms. Buddha was born in the city of Lumbini on what is today the India-Nepal border. Guru Nanak was born West of this, in the city of Lahore, that is now in present-day Pakistan.

* He will migrate from his homeland.

Yer damn straight, he will :happy: Click here to see a map that covers the extensive geography walked by Guru Nanak.

* He will look at the Universe face to face. (Compare this with Mi’raj).

He certainly did that. The mül mantra that he wrote after three days of meditation reflects this in its entirety, and is the passage that opens the Guru Granth Sahib:

"There is but one God. He is all that is.
He is the Creator of all things and He is all-pervasive.
He is without fear and without enmity.
He is timeless, unborn and self-existent.
He is the Enlightener
And can be realised by his grace alone.
He was in the beginning; He was in all ages.
The True One is, was - O Nanak - and shall forever be."


Guru Granth Sahib
Japji, p.1

Well, damn if that ain't the whole universe in one pretty-lookin' piece o' poetry ;)

* His countrymen cannot be reformed until his advent.

His cultural revolution made way for the succeeding nine gurus, the last of whom gave India its first real sense of identity and equality. India had never seen a reformation like this before or since. It was the first major step towards forming what is modern-day India.

* He will preach the same religion as mine but its perfection and success will reach peak stage only in his time (Compare this with the Qur’anic Verse 5:3 “..... I have perfected your religion for you.. . and have chosen Al Islam for you as religion... “).

Well, every religion claims "perfection". But I think that the purity of the mül mantra speaks for itself. And the way in which the form of the Khalsa proved so effective in forming the India's first secular government is a reflection on just how refined ("perfected", if you will) this form was.

* While my disciples are in hundreds, his will be in thousands.

I don't know how many there were in Guru Nanak's time, but by Guru Gobind Singh Ji's time, there were indeed "thousands".

The Chief disciple Ananda asked him how to identify the great Buddha when he eventually comes. Gautama told them,

* “His name will be Maitreya.”
The word maitreya means love, kindness, compassion, mercy, and so on.

If you take that literally, it obviously appears to mean that the name itself will have the definition of those virtous things. In actuality, one could interpret this as meaning that the 'next Buddha' would preach and practice those virtues. Guru Nanak certainly preached that. At the age of eleven, Guru Nanak was to wear a sacred thread called a janeu. He refused to wear it, saying:

"Out of the cotton of compassion
Spin the thread of contentment,
Tie the knot of contience, and the twist of virtue;
Make such a sacred thread;
O Pundit, for your inner self."


Guru Granth Sahib
Asa, p.471

i think nearly all scriptures must have had it mentioned (because the people who had the original scriptures were probably really pious - and every nation who is told about islam will get judged) but the people must have changed their scriptures to suit their own needs.

Allah u a'lam


wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

Hopefully, I've shown that Mohammad is not the only historical 'holy man' whose coming can be seen as being prophecised in the Buddhist words you quoted. Like star signs, they're so vague that they could apply to just about any of them ;)
 

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