All eyes on Lebonon now... what about before?

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searchingsoul said:
I disagree. In the context of war it is not murder. Is it sad? yes. Is it murder? no.

Deliberate killing of civilian is murder, regardless of the situation.

Your ignorant comments never ceases to amaze me.
 
iraqi said:
blame hizbollah for the deaths of the innocent civialians in lebanon, hate to see so many people die but hizbollah started it.

LOL, did Hezbollah kill the civilians. It has been proven that Hezbollah doesnt hide among "civilians." How do you think they shot 200 rockets today?
 
I disagree. In the context of war it is not murder. Is it sad? yes. Is it murder? no.

your mistaken

war involves armed parties

killing innocents deliberately is not war


perhaps to you it is

Civillian deaths is not intended to be the MAIN AIM of war
 
you havent understood me clearly, hizbollah had kidnapped 2 soliders, of course it will make a country like israel mad
 
your mistaken

war involves armed parties

Israel and Hezbollah are both armed.

killing innocents deliberately is not war

It sure sends a message.


perhaps to you it is



Civillian deaths is not intended to be the MAIN AIM of war

Tell me, what is the main aim of war in your opinion?
thanks
 
read this please serching....

the official definition of war

WAR- is a conflict involving the organized use of weapons and physical force by STATES or other large-scale groups.(civillians are not large scale groups who hold power enough to perpetrate these actions) Warring parties usually hold territory, which they can win or lose; and each has a leading person or organization which can surrender, or collapse, thus ending the war.

Thats the official deffintion of war according to the Oxford dictionairy

Does not match up with what your calling war

sorry

Maa salaama
 
whats in brakets is what I add to make my point clear the definition itself is what is not put in brackets

Civillians ARE innocent
and whatever messege it sends does not JUSTIFY their MURDER!!!

thats the main point im trying to make that there is no JUSTIFICATION
 
read this please serching....

the official definition of war

WAR- is a conflict involving the organized use of weapons and physical force by STATES or other large-scale groups.(civillians are not large scale groups who hold power enough to perpetrate these actions) Warring parties usually hold territory, which they can win or lose; and each has a leading person or organization which can surrender, or collapse, thus ending the war.

Thats the official deffintion of war according to the Oxford dictionairy

Does not match up with what your calling war

sorry

Maa salaama

Perhaps the definition of war needs to be revised since we're dealing with the 21st century and terrorism.

Perhaps the incident in Lebanon isn't far from the Oxford definition. :?
 
ISREAL VS HEZBOLLAH
would be war if the many lives far too many lives of innocent by standers werent involved
This means that this is not war but ASSULT and its being called war to justify it
 
the bottom line is exxesive force is being used without proper reason
innocent lives are being taken and its being blamed on hezbollah
In war, what is excessive force? It is logical to defeat your enemy as quickly and decisively as possible.
If you are a pro fighter, should you not hit as hard in a championship bout because you know that you are stronger than your opponent? Or should you knock him out as quick as you can?

the fact of the matter is that according to Isreal the violent murder of hundreds of children is justifyable bby the kidnapping of two soldiers
It's not about two soldiers anymore. Listen to the words of the Israeli leaders. They are talking about no peace until the removal of Hezbollah. I am sure they would continue the push on Hezbollah now even if they did give back the soldiers. And they should. The continued threat must end.

I have read about the riots in august of 1929 and you fail to mention that altho 133 jews were killed there were also 116 arabs who died in that struggle its been a long one between the arabs and the jews and you only mention one side of the tale as tho to fool somebody
try again
OK, I will try again. Although there is no need to fool anyone, history is recorded. Just read. On August 22, 1929, Haj Amin al-Husseini Mufti of Jerusalem, sparked the racial arab riots by claiming that the jews were endangering the islamic holy sites, and issuing the call to "slaughter the jews". The next day the riots began. At the end, the surviving jews were sent to Jerusalem and no jews lived in Hebron until it was liberated in 1967.

Isreal is being provided for by AMerica and i completly understand that in a war there will be colateral damadge however this is just barbaric and its blatantly deliberate and to me its laughable that you cant see that
War is barbaric. Hezbollah is barbaric as well. And of course it is deliberate, that is how they get hezbollah. Deliberately.
and to me its laughable that you cant see that
And I think it's laughable that you would say this. It is laughable because I did not state in my post that I could not see that it was barbaric or deliberate. You are claiming that I said something that I did not. Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else?

p.s I like how you copy and paste my words to sound how you want them too
They are your words, unaltered, as you said them.
 
I am seeing something very similar to past confronation between Hezbollah and Israel.
Yes, me too. Hezbollah provoking a fight, sending rockets from civilian areas, and hiding among civilians. It is the same.

Any person with common sense would know that goes to Hezbollah's advantage.
I agree with this.

Deliberate killing of civilian is murder, regardless of the situation.
Israel is not targeting civilians. It does seem they are not making a great effort to avoid them. But there is no advantage to targeting civilians. Except to undermine support for hezbollah. But Israel knows that this only creates more supporters.

Hezbollah is no better, they shoot rockets at civilian cities. What military objective does this serve? Well, I supose it can unnerve the population so that public support for the war is reduced. The truth is though, Hezbollah views the entire Israeli/jewish population as the enemy.

LOL, did Hezbollah kill the civilians. It has been proven that Hezbollah doesnt hide among "civilians." How do you think they shot 200 rockets today?
What proof? Link?
They shot 200 rockets from private residences, backyards,streets, etc.
 
Death during war isn't murder.


please searching stop making these remarks

because you know that your wrong

the murder of innocent civillians in a war is murder

Im sorry read the definition i posted for you and than stop saying such ignorant things

you really dont seem to understand that sometimes your ignorant rambling is offensive
 
please searching stop making these remarks

because you know that your wrong

the murder of innocent civillians in a war is murder

Im sorry read the definition i posted for you and than stop saying such ignorant things

you really dont seem to understand that sometimes your ignorant rambling is offensive


I'm sorry if you are offended by my words. I still disagree with you.

Death during war isn't murder.
 
plus searching.......this occupation of Lebanon by Isreal has not been declared war yet there for it is not officially a war

And still many INNOCENT CIVILLIAN LIVES ARE BEING TAKEN

this is acceptable to you?????????

thats pathetic
 
death to other soldiers is not murder its part of the basics of war, death to civilians is murder especially when they can do less of it but choose to hit civilian areas which has been done in all wars and dont forget about the civilians targeted for no reason, should i state recent situations in Iraq or do i have to bring it back to Vietname when a whole village was slaugtered and they were charged with murder, if it was your child or mother searchingsoul u would have a totally different view, i think some of us are too comfy and say things we have no place saying.
 

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