100s killed in Darfur in August

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“Hundreds of Darfur civilians killed in August”
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Several hundred Darfur civilians have been killed in violent attacks in August, far more than previously estimated, a recent UN report said, according to Reuters news agency.

The UN's High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) Louise Arbour said the attacks have been carried out by up to 1000 militiamen with the “knowledge and material support” of the Sudanese government.

"The attacks ... were massive in scale, involving a large number of villages, and were carried out over only a few days. Government knowledge, if not complicity, in the attacks is almost certain," stated the OHCR report.

The OHCR said the attacks took place in 48 villages in the Buram area of South Darfur. It also said that many of the 10,000 civilians targeted in the attacks, which started on August 28 and lasted into September, were forced to escape their homes.

The agency had previously thought that 38 people had died in the attacks. But it later revised the death toll in its latest report, which was conducted in cooperation with United Nations Assistance Mission in Sudan and based on interviews with some of the survivors of the attacks.

The attacks were carried out by militiamen wearing government-style uniforms, the report said, adding that there was no evidence of any rebel activity in the area.

"The large-scale assaults resulted in chaotic displacement, widespread separation of families and scores of missing children," the report said. "Most of the villages attacked were under government control," it added.

Arbour urged the Sudanese government to launch an independent investigation into the “recent militia attacks that may have left hundreds of civilians dead in South Darfur”, and called for the prosecution of all those responsible.

Sudan disputes report

Sudan's Justice Minister Mohamed Ali al-Mardi disputed the report’s findings, saying that Arbour's office wasn’t using reliable sources, adding that the government doesn’t support the militias in Darfur.

"The sources ... are not reliable and they have become very ready to accept whatever is said to them," al-Mardi said. "They declare what they have heard and after some time it turns out to be not true," he said.

The Sudanese government, which accuses the rebels for starting the Darfur conflict, has always denied backing the Janjaweed militias, accused of committing the atrocities in the western Sudanese region.

The rebels, on the other hand, say that they are defending the "African" farmers against the government and the Janjaweed militia.

Khartoum is opposed to plans to deploy UN peacekeepers in Darfur, saying that such a move would infringe on its sovereignty.

Last week, the Sudanese government suggested that the UN could provide training and logistics support to the 7,000 African forces deployed in the region.

The United Nations, which has said that Darfur is suffering "the greatest humanitarian disaster in the world", estimates that about 180,000 people have lost their lives since the conflict began in 2003.

A further two million people have been forced to escape their homes.
 
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The janjaweed are Arabs, right?
Are they Muslims?

Yes. It is basically Arab Muslims killing blacks who many are muslims and some arent' because they are black and they feel as Arabs they are superior.

I'm black, and I want to vomit everytime I hear about darfur.
 
I simply can't understand why more isn't being done in Darfur by the international community. I hate to say this, but it seems as if genocidal situations that involve Africans aren't seen as being important enough to warrant any sort of action by the U.N. I won't call it racism, but perhaps a bias against the African continent as being a "lost cause".
 
I simply can't understand why more isn't being done in Darfur by the international community.
I think there are two major reasons. The local government doesn't want it and some Muslims have called on all Muslims to kill any UN member that enters. The UN can not solve all the world problems.
I hate to say this, but it seems as if genocidal situations that involve Africans aren't seen as being important enough to warrant any sort of action by the U.N. I won't call it racism, but perhaps a bias against the African continent as being a "lost cause".
There is so much corruption in Africa that is almost a lost cause.
 
I think there are two major reasons. The local government doesn't want it and some Muslims have called on all Muslims to kill any UN member that enters. The UN can not solve all the world problems.
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1. The local goverment did not want the allies to intervene in WWII, but they did.

2. Hardly anybody listens to the crackpots who call Muslims to kill UN members anyway.
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Keltoi: Economics plays a big factor. Sudan has got alot of deals right now with China, namely in the oil industry and the U.S want a cut of the pie too. Hence much is not being done and alot of crocidile tears being shed. In order for action to take place, they would need a concencous of the U.N votes and China would most likely veto any action against Sudan.

Wilberhum: Yea theres alot of corruption in Africa, but the west has its fingers dipped in the corrurption as well. In many cases, its supporting the corruption thats going on as well as doing arms trades with leaders and rebel groups who they know will use those arms for greater evil. When the Hutsis in Rwanda were killing the Tutsis' who suppiled the weapons? France! West aint got any moral high horse to stand on, when many of those propped up diactors in africa have been in the past and present supported by the white house, the kremlin, british goverment etc..
 
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One cause for the many conflicts in Africa is the lack of a central government and of a central language. There are from 2,000 to 3, seperate languages spoken, with up to 8,000 dialects. This in itself makes communication among the people difficult.

Source fo Language numbers: http://africanlanguages.com/

Add to that you have 53 seperate countries and countless seperate tribal governments. Many of these internal factors lead to continuous civil war and wars among neighboring countries.

Source for number of African Nations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_PPP

I have no idea as to how many different religions are practiced in Africa however it appears most are based upon various combinations of Islam, Christianity and Traditional tribal religions. Leading to a very large number of beliefs.

Sources: http://www.afrikaworld.net/afrel/

http://members.aol.com/porchfour/religion/african.htm

all of these things result in very little unity among the African people. Although there does appear to be considerable National Pride in each seperate country.

Until there is a unifying central system of either religion, government or ethnicity the greates threat to Africans will be fellow Africans. Yes, unscrupilous people are waiting in the sidelines always ready to gain from this disunity.

This disunity is just one of the problems that result in so many conflicts on the African continent. At the moment we see it in Darfur, Somalia and Ethiopia. But, it is something very common to Africa.
 
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May allah give the innocent peace and strength to endure the evil doers...
 
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One cause for the many conflicts in Africa is the lack of a central government and of a central language. There are from 2,000 to 3, seperate languages spoken, with up to 8,000 dialects. This in itself makes communication among the people difficult.

Source fo Language numbers: http://africanlanguages.com/

Add to that you have 53 seperate countries and countless seperate tribal governments. Many of these internal factors lead to continuous civil war and wars among neighboring countries.

Source for number of African Nations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_PPP

I have no idea as to how many different religions are practiced in Africa however it appears most are based upon various combinations of Islam, Christianity and Traditional tribal religions. Leading to a very large number of beliefs.

Sources: http://www.afrikaworld.net/afrel/

http://members.aol.com/porchfour/religion/african.htm

all of these things result in very little unity among the African people. Although there does appear to be considerable National Pride in each seperate country.

Until there is a unifying central system of either religion, government or ethnicity the greates threat to Africans will be fellow Africans. Yes, unscrupilous people are waiting in the sidelines always ready to gain from this disunity.

This disunity is just one of the problems that result in so many conflicts on the African continent. At the moment we see it in Darfur, Somalia and Ethiopia. But, it is something very common to Africa.



Hmmmmm, thats seems to be the reason why there is no emotional outbreak or sense of anger so far in the muslim world even after so many casualities of innocent muslims in this part of the world. Obviously Palestine, Iraq, etc. dont face so much complications, maybe thats why even a handfull of death of muslims in these regions brings the whole muslim Ummah in state of shock.

Poor black African muslims cant have share of Ummah's tears for them, have to be content with sympathies of Kuffar only. Sad indeed.
 
Sudan set to ink peace deal with eastern rebels

Mohammed Ali Saeed

Agence France Presse

KHARTOUM: Sudan and eastern rebels are to sign a peace agreement Saturday in the Eritrean capital, Asmara, ending years of fighting and offering a glimmer of hope in a country mired in the Darfur crisis. The landmark deal after negotiating parties from the Khartoum government and a coalition of rebel groups known as the Eastern Front cleared the final hurdle before inking a final agreement.

Chief government negotiator Mustafa Osman Ismail announced that the final protocol on power-sharing had been agreed upon, following earlier deals on the issues of wealth-sharing and security.

The deal would be the third peace pact signed by Khartoum with rebel groups in various parts of the largest nation in Africa in less than two years.

A deal between Khartoum and the main rebel faction in the war-torn western region of Darfur was signed in May this year but has failed to take hold.

A landmark peace was also signed between Khartoum and southern rebels in January 2005, bringing an end to more than two decades of fighting, the longest civil war in Africa.

The former rebel Sudan People's Liberation Movement is now part of a national unity government with President Omar al-Bashir's National Congress but relations have often been strained.

Bashir is due to meet Eritrean President Issaias Afeworki on the sidelines of Saturday's ceremony, the official Sudanese News Agency reported.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmad Abou al-Gheit and Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa are among the foreign officials expected to attend the signing, which comes amid mounting pressure on Khartoum over Darfur.

The latest round of negotiations between Khartoum and the Eastern Front resumed after a cease-fire agreement was reached on June 19.

The Eastern Front was created last year by the region's largest ethnic group, the Beja, and the Rashidiyya Arabs, and has similar aims to its better-known counterparts in Darfur: greater autonomy and control of resources. Its members have waged a low-level insurgency, and Sudan says the push to defuse the crisis is part of efforts to pacify the whole country by building on peace pacts reached recently with other rebels.

Sudan's vast eastern provinces include porous and volatile borders with Eritrea and Ethiopia and command access to the Red Sea, key to the country's economy.

source
 
Hmmmmm, thats seems to be the reason why there is no emotional outbreak or sense of anger so far in the muslim world even after so many casualities of innocent muslims in this part of the world. Obviously Palestine, Iraq, etc. dont face so much complications, maybe thats why even a handfull of death of muslims in these regions brings the whole muslim Ummah in state of shock.

Poor black African muslims cant have share of Ummah's tears for them, have to be content with sympathies of Kuffar only. Sad indeed.

???? Excuse me?? who saying muslims dont care for what happens in dafur!?? our zakat is going there aswell my friend!

there are mentions of there suffering as well in our prayers the diffrence is muslim seems to be harming muslim there thats an internal affair that we can look into when others come to our land and reck havoc of course theres going to be more of an out cry!

evil doers are evil doers wether so called muslims or otherwise!!

pls dont assume you know the internal affairs of the ummah unless you do research into it go to muslim chairty sites and you will see donations to dafur as there are to iraq and afgan and pakistan...
 
???? Excuse me?? who saying muslims dont care for what happens in dafur!?? our zakat is going there aswell my friend!

there are mentions of there suffering as well in our prayers the diffrence is muslim seems to be harming muslim there thats an internal affair that we can look into when others come to our land and reck havoc of course theres going to be more of an out cry!

evil doers are evil doers wether so called muslims or otherwise!!

pls dont assume you know the internal affairs of the ummah unless you do research into it go to muslim chairty sites and you will see donations to dafur as there are to iraq and afgan and pakistan...

Sorry that I had to poke my nose in ur internal affair coz I still remember an image of a father clinging his baby in his lap, tears rolling down his cheeks, and saying to the reporter who was covering him " I would have commited suicide inspite of living in such hostile conditions had I not have this baby to look after" Malnutrition of the child was obviously evident. I hope zakat money never reached to him, he was starving brother, and no muslim presence was evident there, only kuffar looking after them.

Nothing personal brother, but I have to poke my nose in internal affair of the Ummah coz I know quiet well that muslims who wont fail to quote atrocities being done on helpless ppls of Iraq and Afganistan doesnt even know whats happenign in Darfur.

And I find this a perfect opportunity to show mirror to the ppls who forms the biggest bunch of hypocrites in this world. Like it or dislike it.

NOTHING IS BEING DONE BY MUSLIMS INSPITE OF GENOCIDE OF THEIR MUSLIM BRETHERNS, EXCEPT SAYING LET SOME MORE CASUALITIES HAPPEN THERE, AFTER ALL THEY ARE BEING KILLED BY OUR OWN PPLS, WHICH IS NO BIG DEAL. ALL IN THE FAMILY. AFTER ALL ZAKAT IS BEING SENT TO THEM, RESPONSIBILITY ENDS HERE. HOW SAD AND DEPRESSING BROTHER.
 
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh great, such a great service is being done to the helpless ppls of Darfur and ignorant like me are crying foul play by muslims!!!! ALLLAH will take good care of me.

And sorry that I had to poke my nose in ur internal affair coz I still remember an image of a father clinging his baby in his lap, tears rolling down his cheeks, and saying to the reporter who was covering him " I would have commited suicide inspite of living in such hostile conditions had I not have this baby to look after" Malnutrition of the child was obviously evident. I hope zakat money never reached to him, he was starving brother, and no muslim presence was evident there, only kuffar looking after them.

Nothing personal brother, but I have to poke my nose in internal affair of the Ummah coz I know quiet well that muslims who wont fail to quote atrocities being done on helpless ppls of Iraq and Afganistan doesnt even know whats happenign in Darfur.

And I find this a perfect opportunity to show mirror to the ppls who forms the biggest bunch of hypocrites in this world. Like it or dislike it.

NOTHING IS BEING DONE BY MUSLIMS INSPITE OF GENOCIDE OF THEIR MUSLIM BRETHERNS, EXCEPT SAYING LET SOME MORE CASUALITIES HAPPEN THERE, AFTER ALL THEY ARE BEING KILLED BY OUR OWN PPLS, WHICH IS NO BIG DEAL. ALL IN THE FAMILY. AFTER ALL ZAKAT IS BEING SENT TO THEM, RESPONSIBILITY ENDS HERE. HOW SAD AND DEPRESSING BROTHER.

Im sorry im confused as i stated this is being tallked about by muslims awell as iraq and afgan and palastine and as in dafur indeed muslims still die in iraq and afgan and palastine!?

so what your trying to state makes no sense what your saying is we are all funding iraq and afgan etc but not dafur!? and the way you have worked this out is by saying that people in dafur are still dying!??

uhmmm well they are still dying in iraq and afgan and palastine aswell!?? so that logic makes no sense!?

second you state muslims are saying letthere be more casulties!?? where did you get that from!?? and how does that makes sense where will muslims get aasking for that!? that again is failed logic...

thirdly you state your hindu thats fine bro no issue there i have many hindu brothers but you say you want to know whats going on in the ummah cos you know many muslims who dont care about the dafur!??

brother i know mosques full who do and!??

as stated in all religons there will be those who are evil doers and the true ummah will weed them out inshallah..

muslims will never find any good in the suffering of any innocents logic behind saying we want more casulties as muslims in dafur makes no sense as you stated there muslim to...

i suggest looking deeper into islamic ways if you wish to comment on the ummah and what muslims want cos dafur is an insult to islam and humanity...
 
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh great, such a great service is being done to the helpless ppls of Darfur and ignorant like me are crying foul play by muslims!!!! ALLLAH will take good care of me.

I hope zakat money never reached to him, he was starving brother, and no muslim presence was evident there, only kuffar looking after them.

hmm i sense sarcasem? theres no need for this brother...

second i suggest perhaps you get to know real muslims...

and there presence there...

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Adeel Jafferi, Islamic Relief Press Officer, flew out to join IR staff in Darfur, western Sudan last week, and is writing a diary for Islamic-Relief.com about his experiences.

Saturday 7th August: I arrived in the Al Riyadh camp in El-Geneina, West Darfur's main town, which Islamic Relief have been managing since the crisis began. My first view was from the rise of a hill and the scene was overwhelming. The staff in Khartoum had given me an idea of what to expect, but nothing could have prepared me for what I saw. Stretched out for miles were tiny makeshift shelters.

there are those who would promote hate within islam brother there are those who would burn the fires of hate between brother and brother and spread lies to support such hate..all i can say is they will find there due brother if not in this life in the next...

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