Who am I to Allah and Jesus?

[poga]

Peace. I would like to clarify I did not say I speak for all Muslims, I said .

They are your prophets also, except you do not accept Muhammad.

To understand what I mean by "Word of God(swt)" You can not take it out of context from the rest of the comment.



We also want to go to the highest source as you stated you desire to.


For that reason we worship who Isa(as) worshiped.

Peace. I would like to clarify I did not say I speak for all Muslims, I said .

They are your prophets also, except you do not accept Muhammad.

To understand what I mean by "Word of God(swt)" You can not take it out of context from the rest of the comment.



We also want to go to the highest source as you stated you desire to.


For that reason we worship who Isa(as) worshiped.

ASSALAMUALIKUM

Among the mountain of wothless stones there is a jem and jem is the word i ask and request you brother dig deeper search this connection between OM and AMEN there is two more source beside AL QURAN AND THORA one is egyptian hermetica other is indian AVIDIYA
this WORD also relates to your another question about science of creation from nothing
Everything is pulse all is viabration sound is the root element of this creaion
sound is from the speaker yet the echo is free from the speakers part portion or section

 

[MustafaMc]

For that reason we worship who Isa(as) worshiped.

This is a critical Truth that cannot be disputed. I think it is self evident who Christians worship and pray to. In the South there is a common saying among country people, "Lord, help me, Jesus!" and when something good happens they say, "Thank you, Jesus!"

In contrast, Jesus prayed to the One God - not to himself.
Matthew 14:23 And after he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into the mountain apart to pray: and when even was come, he was there alone.
Matthew 26:36-39 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto his disciples, Sit ye here, while I go yonder and pray. And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and sore troubled. Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: abide ye here, and watch with me. And he went forward a little, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass away from me: nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.

There is no question but that Jesus (pbuh) saw "the Father" as greater than himself and prayed to Him. I and all Muslims worship and pray to the same God, the One God, that Jesus (pbuh) prayed to. We Muslims also strive to submit our wills to Allah's (swt) Will just as Jesus (pbuh) indicated.

 

[Umar001]

Yes, fair enough. I have been reading up on it. Your right I don't know much about Islam, but I have been learning a lot from you and others like you, but I don't want my information to come from one source mainly this forum. I have learned that the Qur’an is the word of God of Muslims just like the Bible is for the Christians. In modern times, however, "The Qur'an has faced many of the same dilemmas as the Bible (as I have already mentioned). A major issue is the inspiration of the Qur'an. Islamic scholars do not agree as a whole on how the Qur'an came to be true, although conservative Islamic scholars accept it all as literally true." If modern Muslims scholars don’t agree, you could imagine the doubts I would have.

A scholar is not be taken as infallible rather his status comes from his accuracy, if a person makes many mistakes and the likes then his scholarly status is disputed. These people you refer to making accusations on the Qu'ran if they are making mistakes time and time again beyond the scope of just human errors and so forth then they are not scholars.

Anyhow, bring forth your doubts, you know there are self proclaimed scholars in Christianity who preach about this world being hell, does this mean its true? No we have to asess their claims.

I have learned that the Qur'an was written and revealed in Arabic. And I believe that the Muslims as you have mentioned preserved it very carefully even to the point of not accepting any translation like is done to the Bible. Even though the Arabic language is rich and preserved and the reliability in my opinion is without question. In other words, to put it your way, it hasn’t been butcher like the Bible. I do believe this. So you'll get no argument from me there.

Well then there's alot of difference between your earlier statement about the compilation being similar! People wrote down what they remember him saying like the Bible was also written. You can understand how fastruating it can be for people to see such statements made which devalue the truth of the compilation of the Qu'ranic Text.

However, the Qur’an must in my opinion be evaluated for it's validity not just its reliability.

Of course, but part of the package of the validity is the reliability and retention of the text, we cant expect God to ask us to put trust in doubtful instructions.

The Bible as I have mentioned might have transnational errors, but the spirit of what Jesus and the prophets say through it cannot be put out it is like trying to cover a candle with a box.

Well that's your assumption, you're assuming it cannot.

It can only hide the light for a short time until the box bursts into flames. I believe although there is a night and day difference between the Bible and the Qur’an the Prophet Muhammad got a lot of things from the Old Testament. “The Qur’an came into writing form shortly after Muhammad’s death” (Handbook of today’s religions). All the surahs of the Qur’an had been recorded in writing before the Prophet’s death, and many Muslims had committed the whole Koran to memory. But when the surahs were dispersed among the people; and when in a battle which took place during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr- that is to say, within two years of the Prophet’s death- a large number of those who knew the whole Koran by heart were killed, a collection of the whole Koran was made and put in writing. ...The Koran has thus been very carefully preserved ) Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, trans., The Meaning of the Glorious Koran, New York: Mentor Books, n.d., p xxxviii).

What's your proof that he got stuff from the Old Testament?

On the origin of the Qur’an, Guillaume comments: from the books of tradition we learn that the prophet was subject to ecstatic seizures. He is reported to have said that when inspiration came to him he felt as it were the painful sounding of a bell. Even in cold weather his forehead was bathed in sweat (Guillaume, op. cit., p 56). The prophet would have his wife wrap him in a veil and he even got visions in his sleep. The veiling of the head and the use of rhymed prose were marks of Arabian soothsayer, while the feeling of physical violence and compulsion, and outward appearance of possession were sometimes recorded by, or observed in, the Hebrew prophets. The Qur’an as we have it now is a record of what Muhammad said while in the state or states just mentioned. It is beyond doubt that his hearers recognized the symptoms of revelation; otherwise his obiter dicta which the literature purports to record would be included in the Qur’an (Guillaume, op. cit., p 56).

Lol do you know who you're quoting and what his sources are?

Mow I know that Jesus sweat drops of blood in Gethsemane the night before His crucifixion but that is understandable. The things that I have been reading about the origins of the Qur’an make me wonder if it is true. If it is, I want to stay in the arms of Christ more than ever. You wanted me to back up what I said, so I am trying to do that. I hope you don't get angry at me for sharing my research.

I am not angry if you are sincere, this is the deal me and you are humans and we have a common goal, we both want to be close to God, we are both, if sincere, trying our best, I have no problem, but some people harden their hearts that's when the problem comes in.

Anyhow, some of the stuff you have been reading I wonder whether you know the reliability of. Anyhow, I'll leave it to you whether you feel comfortable in taking from random sources.

Eesa

 

[Redeemed]

I'm not sure how you are justifying or rationalising this statement to yourself but to a Muslim it seems pretty shocking to say "God wouldn't be anything without......".

May God guide those who sincerely seek truth to the truth ameen

What i mean is a person can only be as good as his word. Things wouldn't be different with God. I have a relationship with God He is my friend. I can talk this way.

 

[Redeemed]

A scholar is not be taken as infallible rather his status comes from his accuracy, if a person makes many mistakes and the likes then his scholarly status is disputed. These people you refer to making accusations on the Qu'ran if they are making mistakes time and time again beyond the scope of just human errors and so forth then they are not scholars.

Anyhow, bring forth your doubts, you know there are self proclaimed scholars in Christianity who preach about this world being hell, does this mean its true? No we have to asess their claims.
That is true.



Well then there's alot of difference between your earlier statement about the compilation being similar! People wrote down what they remember him saying like the Bible was also written. You can understand how fastruating it can be for people to see such statements made which devalue the truth of the compilation of the Qu'ranic Text.
Yes, I can



Of course, but part of the package of the validity is the reliability and retention of the text, we cant expect God to ask us to put trust in doubtful instructions.
Not necessarily. Think about It.




Well that's your assumption, you're assuming it cannot.



What's your proof that he got stuff from the Old Testament?
Come on are you serious



Lol do you know who you're quoting and what his sources are?
Whose?



I am not angry if you are sincere, this is the deal me and you are humans and we have a common goal, we both want to be close to God, we are both, if sincere, trying our best, I have no problem, but some people harden their hearts that's when the problem comes in.

Anyhow, some of the stuff you have been reading I wonder whether you know the reliability of. Anyhow, I'll leave it to you whether you feel comfortable in taking from random sources.

Eesa

Yes, I am sincere

 

[Redeemed]

This is a critical Truth that cannot be disputed. I think it is self evident who Christians worship and pray to. In the South there is a common saying among country people, "Lord, help me, Jesus!" and when something good happens they say, "Thank you, Jesus!"

In contrast, Jesus prayed to the One God - not to himself.
Matthew 14:23 And after he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into the mountain apart to pray: and when even was come, he was there alone.
Matthew 26:36-39 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto his disciples, Sit ye here, while I go yonder and pray. And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and sore troubled. Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: abide ye here, and watch with me. And he went forward a little, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass away from me: nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.

There is no question but that Jesus (pbuh) saw "the Father" as greater than himself and prayed to Him. I and all Muslims worship and pray to the same God, the One God, that Jesus (pbuh) prayed to. We Muslims also strive to submit our wills to Allah's (swt) Will just as Jesus (pbuh) indicated.

What would make you think that I don't pray to the God Jesus prayed to. Don't forget, He taught us how to pray "Our Father who hart in heaven..." If The Father I pray to is who Jesus told me to pray to, and the Father tells me to honor His son as Himself, because he that has seen Jesus as seen the Father, I am going to obey. What we do to Jesus we have done to the Father. God said this is my Son hear ye Him. We have been through this. Jesus is God's word. Man doesn't leave by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God (that is Jesus). This is spiritual discerned teaching. You are trying to explain it in physical terms. It can't be reasoned out in the flesh. It takes faith to believe all the impossible things in the Qur’an as well. You certainly can’t explain how God always was and always will be. You can’t tell where the wind is coming from or where it is going. So is true of us flowerers of Jesus. We love the god that Jesus spoke of. If God can breath life into dust and create a human being, what is so hard to believe that Jesus is his word and that those who don’t receive it are rejecting truth. Truth is who Jesus is. We are so much like Pilot we ask what is truth and then we crucify it. We can infer from the Bible sthat to not receive Jesus as God's Son is to crucify Truth. There are non so blind as those who will not see.

 

[Redeemed]

Spelling error Man doesn't live by bread alone... Jesu is the bread that has come down from heaven. Eat of this breas and you will live too.

 

[Woodrow]

What would make you think that I don't pray to the God Jesus prayed to. Don't forget, He taught us how to pray "Our Father who hart in heaven..." If The Father I pray to is who Jesus told me to pray to, and the Father tells me to honor His son as Himself, because he that has seen Jesus as seen the Father, I am going to obey. What we do to Jesus we have done to the Father. God said this is my Son hear ye Him. We have been through this. Jesus is God's word. Man doesn't leave by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God (that is Jesus). This is spiritual discerned teaching. You are trying to explain it in physical terms. It can't be reasoned out in the flesh. It takes faith to believe all the impossible things in the Qur’an as well. You certainly can’t explain how God always was and always will be. You can’t tell where the wind is coming from or where it is going. So is true of us flowerers of Jesus. We love the god that Jesus spoke of. If God can breath life into dust and create a human being, what is so hard to believe that Jesus is his word and that those who don’t receive it are rejecting truth. Truth is who Jesus is. We are so much like Pilot we ask what is truth and then we crucify it. We can infer from the Bible sthat to not receive Jesus as God's Son is to crucify Truth. There are non so blind as those who will not see.

There are non so blind as those who will not see.

That is true.

I can only hope that one day your Love of Isa(as) will set you free of the misguidance and allow you to Love Him(as) as we all should. The love of a wonderful thought is a barrier that will keep a person from worshiping the True Allah(swt). No matter how loving and how beautiful a prison is, if it stops a person from loving Allah(swt) and of putting all trust in Allah(swt) alone, it is still a cruel prison.

The Beauty, Justice and Mercy of Allah(swt) so Great that even the sin of shirk is forgiven when a person says the Shahadah and surrenders his life to serve Allah(swt). the greatest freedom and joy can only come when a person truly turns his life over to Allah(swt) and trusts the the will of Allah(swt) is all we need to follow.

 

[Umar001]

Yes, I am sincere

Just out of curiousity will you reply to any other part of the post?

:rollseyes

 

[Umar001]

^upin incase it was forgotten.

 

[Redeemed]

Just out of curiousity will you reply to any other part of the post?

:rollseyes

I am not quite sure i know what you mean by this.

 

[Redeemed]

There are non so blind as those who will not see.

That is true.

I can only hope that one day your Love of Isa(as) will set you free of the misguidance and allow you to Love Him(as) as we all should. The love of a wonderful thought is a barrier that will keep a person from worshiping the True Allah(swt). No matter how loving and how beautiful a prison is, if it stops a person from loving Allah(swt) and of putting all trust in Allah(swt) alone, it is still a cruel prison.

The Beauty, Justice and Mercy of Allah(swt) so Great that even the sin of shirk is forgiven when a person says the Shahadah and surrenders his life to serve Allah(swt). the greatest freedom and joy can only come when a person truly turns his life over to Allah(swt) and trusts the the will of Allah(swt) is all we need to follow.

I am praying to the true Allah. I am praying to my Lord and God the way Jesus taught me too. Jesus knows better than me. I trust His leadership. Besides, The Spirit of the Lord bears witness with my spirit that I am saved. This is something I can't explain. It would be like trying to explain what a strawberry taste like to someone who as never had fruit in his life before. This is a poor analogy, because I can't think of anything better. Put it this way, I cannot deny the experience and witness in my spirit that my name is written in the book of life without denying God. There is no sin of shirk I need forgiveness for, especially when I am operating in all the light God has given me and living by faith in my creator. I am trying to reach those who don’t accept the atonement for sin that Allah has provided. Those are whom Jesus came to save. God has always sent a Savior for His people even before Jesus. Moses was a type of Savior that God sent to rescue His people from slavery. God had His people offer lambs as sin offering. There was a reason for that; it was a shadow of what was to come. Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. It is written, “Without the shedding of blood there is no remission for sin.”
As I said before, Jesus is not dead. He is ever making intercession for us now. If He doesn’t want me to believe this way, He will have to show me. So I will pray now: Oh Almighty God I beg you to reveal the truth about the prophet Jesus to us clearly so that we can see the vision clearly and run with it. I come against the spiritual wickedness in high places and bind every thought and imagination that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. I even do this through Jesus who leads us to the Lord of Lights and to the Almighty who is our creator who made heaven and earth. I say the Lord rebuke you Satan and your demon helpers because you are a liar and the Father of it. You can go to hell where you came from. Almighty God show yourself strong in the midst of this forum for this battle is not mine. This battle is yours and you are full of wisdom and mercy. Be exalted OH God above the heavens and let your glory be over all the earth and on this forum tonight.
Amen

 

[Woodrow]

I am praying to the true Allah. I am praying to my Lord and God the way Jesus taught me too. Jesus knows better than me. I trust His leadership. Besides, The Spirit of the Lord bears witness with my spirit that I am saved. This is something I can't explain. It would be like trying to explain what a strawberry taste like to someone who as never had fruit in his life before. This is a poor analogy, because I can't think of anything better. Put it this way, I cannot deny the experience and witness in my spirit that my name is written in the book of life without denying God. There is no sin of shirk I need forgiveness for, especially when I am operating in all the light God has given me and living by faith in my creator. I am trying to reach those who don’t accept the atonement for sin that Allah has provided. Those are whom Jesus came to save. God has always sent a Savior for His people even before Jesus. Moses was a type of Savior that God sent to rescue His people from slavery. God had His people offer lambs as sin offering. There was a reason for that; it was a shadow of what was to come. Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. It is written, “Without the shedding of blood there is no remission for sin.”
As I said before, Jesus is not dead. He is ever making intercession for us now. If He doesn’t want me to believe this way, He will have to show me. So I will pray now: Oh Almighty God I beg you to reveal the truth about the prophet Jesus to us clearly so that we can see the vision clearly and run with it. I come against the spiritual wickedness in high places and bind every thought and imagination that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. I even do this through Jesus who leads us to the Lord of Lights and to the Almighty who is our creator who made heaven and earth. I say the Lord rebuke you Satan and your demon helpers because you are a liar and the Father of it. You can go to hell where you came from. Almighty God show yourself strong in the midst of this forum for this battle is not mine. This battle is yours and you are full of wisdom and mercy. Be exalted OH God above the heavens and let your glory be over all the earth and on this forum tonight.
Amen

oodhu Billaah il-samee? il-?aleem min al-Shaytaan ir-rajeem

(I seek refuge with Allaah, the All-Hearing, All-Knowing, from the accursed Shaytaan).?

each and every Muslim feels very much the same towards Islam as the words you speak. Every muslim does feel the warm grasp of Allah(swt) a minimum of 5 times a day.

Here on this forum we fight shaytaan many times a day as people come and try to lead members away from the truth of Islam. We do know that Allah(swt) does protect us from those who would try to lead us to evil. The strength of Allah(swt) is infinitly greater than the evil forces of the cursed shaytaan.

We know in our hearts and in our prayers that Allah(swt) will keep Shaytaan from harming us Inshallah.

We trust with our entire hearts, minds and bodies that Allah(swt) shows us the straight path and by holding firm to the rope of Allah(swt) we will not stray.

alapiana1 your sincerity and your desire to serve Allah(swt) is not doubted.

May you one day open your eyes, come out of your sleep and truly love Isa(as) as you were meant to and discover the truth of worshiping only the one true Allah(swt)

to save yourselve from the Hellfire you must cast aside your sin of shirk and truly worship only the one God(swt)

You have been here and questioned enough to have seen the truth spoken to you, now it is your responsibility to follow through with what you have been shown.

 

[MustafaMc]

oodhu Billaah il-samee? il-?aleem min al-Shaytaan ir-rajeem

(I seek refuge with Allaah, the All-Hearing, All-Knowing, from the accursed Shaytaan).?

each and every Muslim feels very much the same towards Islam as the words you speak. Every muslim does feel the warm grasp of Allah(swt) a minimum of 5 times a day.

Here on this forum we fight shaytaan many times a day as people come and try to lead members away from the truth of Islam. We do know that Allah(swt) does protect us from those who would try to lead us to evil. The strength of Allah(swt) is infinitly greater than the evil forces of the cursed shaytaan.

We know in our hearts and in our prayers that Allah(swt) will keep Shaytaan from harming us Inshallah.

I agree with you, Br. Woodrow. It is a funny thing that those who try so hard to lead Muslims astray are at the same time witnessed to regarding the Oneness of Allah. To know the Truth and to reject it is worse than the initial ignorance.

 

[Redeemed]

I agree with you, Br. Woodrow. It is a funny thing that those who try so hard to lead Muslims astray are at the same time witnessed to regarding the Oneness of Allah. To know the Truth and to reject it is worse than the initial ignorance.

If you cannot believe the way I do about the nature of Jesus, then believe in the works He did that you might know that He is in the Father and the Father in Him.

 

[Woodrow]

If you cannot believe the way I do about the nature of Jesus, then believe in the works He did that you might know that He is in the Father and the Father in Him.

He is one of the most beloved of Prophets(PBUH). Allah(swt) did Miraculous works through all of the Prophets (PBUT) Isa(as) was a true servent of Allah(swt) and he is a wonderfull example of the things Allah(swt) does through His Prophets(PBUT)

In the Qur'an we list even more miracles Allah(swt) performed through Isa(as) than are named in the Bible. Remember Isa(as) is the most mentioned Prophet(PBUH) in the Qur'an and Many miracles were done through Him(as) by the Power of Allah(swt)

 

[Redeemed]

He is one of the most beloved of Prophets(PBUH). Allah(swt) did Miraculous works through all of the Prophets (PBUT) Isa(as) was a true servent of Allah(swt) and he is a wonderfull example of the things Allah(swt) does through His Prophets(PBUT)

In the Qur'an we list even more miracles Allah(swt) performed through Isa(as) than are named in the Bible. Remember Isa(as) is the most mentioned Prophet(PBUH) in the Qur'an and Many miracles were done through Him(as) by the Power of Allah(swt)

Are those extra miracles Jesus did you mentioned in the Qur'an? I don't know, but what you are saying sounds to me tantamount to a Captain of the ship or Admiral of the Military who is reduced to a first or second-class petty office then saying but he is no ordinary second-class petty officer. He is close to the captain and beloved among all on the ship; in fact, he is even over all the seaman apprentices and we have some of all the wonderful acts he has done to help others that no one else did. Oh, did I mention that the people refer to him more than any other second-class petty officer on board. Let me quote some things out of the Bible that you don't believe is valid, but at least you can't tell me or anyone else that I didn't share it with you. Jesus said, “Unless you believe that I am he, you shall all likewise perish. It is written, ‘Kiss the Son lest His anger be kindle but a little and you perish from the way.”

 

[Woodrow]

Are those extra miracles Jesus did you mentioned in the Qur'an? I don't know, but what you are saying sounds to me tantamount to a Captain of the ship or Admiral of the Military who is reduced to a first or second-class petty office then saying but he is no ordinary second-class petty officer. He is close to the captain and beloved among all on the ship; in fact, he is even over all the seaman apprentices and we have some of all the wonderful acts he has done to help others that no one else did. Oh, did I mention that the people refer to him more than any other second-class petty officer on board. Let me quote some things out of the Bible that you don't believe is valid, but at least you can't tell me or anyone else that I didn't share it with you. Jesus said, “Unless you believe that I am he, you shall all likewise perish. It is written, ‘Kiss the Son lest His anger be kindle but a little and you perish from the way.”

Are those extra miracles Jesus did you mentioned in the Qur'an?

Yes they are mentioned in the Qur'an.


Spoke when he was a Baby.

19:27. At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! S P C

19:28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!" S P C
19:29. But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?" S P C
19:30. He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; S P

19:31. "And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live; S P C
19:32. "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable; S P C
19:33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! S P C

19:34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. S P C


Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

A brief recount of some of the wonderous things He(as) did while on Earth.

5:109. One day will Allah gather the messengers together, and ask: "What was the response ye received (from men to your teaching)?" They will say: "We have no knowledge: it is Thou Who knowest in full all that is hidden." S P C
5:110. Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.' S P C

5:111. "And behold! I inspired the disciples to have faith in Me and Mine Messenger: they said, 'We have faith, and do thou bear witness that we bow to Allah as Muslims'". S P C
5:112. Behold! the disciples, said: "O Jesus the son of Mary! can thy Lord send down to us a table set (with viands) from heaven?" Said Jesus: "Fear Allah, if ye have faith." S P C

5:113. They said: "We only wish to eat thereof and satisfy our hearts, and to know that thou hast indeed told us the truth; and that we ourselves may be witnesses to the miracle." S P
5:114. Said Jesus the son of Mary: "O Allah our Lord! Send us from heaven a table set (with viands), that there may be for us - for the first and the last of us - a solemn festival and a sign from thee; and provide for our sustenance, for thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs)." S P C

5:115. Allah said: "I will send it down unto you: But if any of you after that resisteth faith, I will punish him with a penalty such as I have not inflicted on any one among all the peoples." S P C
5:116. And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. S P C

5:117. "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things. S P C
5:118. "If Thou dost punish them, they are Thy servant: If Thou dost forgive them, Thou art the Exalted in power, the Wise." S P C

5:119. Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). S P C
5:120. To Allah doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is therein, and it is He Who hath power over all things. S P

Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

Jesus said, “Unless you believe that I am he, you shall all likewise perish. It is written, ‘Kiss the Son lest His anger be kindle but a little and you perish from the way.”

4:170. O Mankind! The Messenger hath come to you in truth from Allah: believe in him: It is best for you. But if ye reject Faith, to Allah belong all things in the heavens and on earth: And Allah is All-knowing, All-wise. S P C
4:171. O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. S P C

Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

5:73. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. S P
5:74. Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. S P
5:75. Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth! S P C

5:76. Say: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth and knoweth all things." S P
5:77. Say: "O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper), trespassing beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by,- who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the even way. S P C

Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

43:57. When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example, behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)! S P C

43:58. And they say, "Are our gods best, or he?" This they set forth to thee, only by way of disputation: yea, they are a contentious people. S P
43:59. He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favour to him, and We made him an example to the Children of Israel. S P C
43:60. And if it were Our Will, We could make angels from amongst you, succeeding each other on the earth. S P C

43:61. And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way. S P C
43:62. Let not the Evil One hinder you: for he is to you an enemy avowed. S P
43:63. When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear Allah and obey me. S P C

43:64. "For Allah, He is my Lord and your Lord: so worship ye Him: this is a Straight Way." S P C
43:65. But sects from among themselves fell into disagreement: then woe to the wrong-doers, from the Penalty of a Grievous Day! S P


Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

5:114. Said Jesus the son of Mary: "O Allah our Lord! Send us from heaven a table set (with viands), that there may be for us - for the first and the last of us - a solemn festival and a sign from thee; and provide for our sustenance, for thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs)." S P C

5:115. Allah said: "I will send it down unto you: But if any of you after that resisteth faith, I will punish him with a penalty such as I have not inflicted on any one among all the peoples." S P C
5:116. And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. S P C

5:117. "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things. S P C
5:118. "If Thou dost punish them, they are Thy servant: If Thou dost forgive them, Thou art the Exalted in power, the Wise." S P C

5:119. Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). S P C
5:120. To Allah doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is therein, and it is He Who hath power over all things. S P

Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

It still is not too late for you to awaken and understand.

 

[MustafaMc]

Let me quote some things out of the Bible that you don't believe is valid, but at least you can't tell me or anyone else that I didn't share it with you. Jesus said, “Unless you believe that I am he, you shall all likewise perish. It is written, ‘Kiss the Son lest His anger be kindle but a little and you perish from the way.”

What book/chapter and verse? I would like to read the context.

 

[Redeemed]

What book/chapter and verse? I would like to read the context.

Ps. 2:12