Are Muslims obligated to read the Bible?

[Balthasar21]

Beliving something was sent from God does not mean believing that it was sent to you. You mix those two things up, you start with the presumption that it is true and then you bring any verse to back it up.

The verses you quoted only indicate that Muslims believe in what was sent before Muhammad, peace be upon him, meaning we believe that God did sent the Torah and Injeel, but this is not the same as saying we believe we have to read them and that they apply to us, no, the second part is a subdivision, i.e. what does the belief in them entail.

With all do respect sound like you want to pick and choose what you want to believe . But we can agree to disagree but I rather let the scriptures tell us what The Most High saying .

El Holy Qur'aan Chapter 89 , Verse 1 -5 ( Original order 89 ) Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. And I Quote ;Alif ; Adam -Laam ; Laytul Qadri , 'The Shadow Hour of Power ; Miym ; Muhammad ( the first and the last of the ones sent , of The Seed Of Adam ) .

Verse 2 . The Source , Allah is He ( He Not We ) who no Illaaha ( Allahs ) 'Sources ' would exist , except by way of Him ( Hu - The Force Of Creative Will ) . He is Al Hayyu ' The Everliving , Al Qayuwm '' The Subsisting . Verse 3. He ( He Not We ) Nazala 'Sent Down on you , ( Muhammad ) Al Kitaab '' The Scriptures ( Qur'aan ) Bi -Al Haqq '' With The Facts ( beyond any doubt ) , Musaddiqaan ' Confirming what is between Yadayhi ''His Hands ' ,( These are the scriptures before the Quraan ) ; and Anzala ' He Sent Down Al Tawraat '' The Torah and Al Injiy 'The Evangel ( send down the Injiyl but gave it to Yashu's / Isa ) Verse

4 . ( The other scriptures ) are Hudaa 'Calmness ' from before ( Quraan ) , for Al Naas ''The Enosites , ( the Children of Israel and the Torah ) ; And Anzala 'He Sent Down Al Furqaan ' The Differentiation . Surely , those who conceal what they know to be the facts , about Allah's Ayyaat 'Verses ' ( which are all His scriptures ) ; for them there will be a pain that is Shadiyd ' Forceful , and The Source Allah has the might , for He ( He Not We ) is the Aziyz '' Mighty of the Intiqaam ' Avenger .

Verse 5 . Surely , nothing in Al Samaa-i 'the Heavenly Skies , ( The Firmaments ) or the 'Planet Earth is Yakhfaa 'Hidden from The Source , Allah .

 

[Umar001]

With all do respect sound like you want to pick and choose what you want to believe . But we can agree to disagree but I rather let the scriptures tell us what The Most High saying .

Enlighten me, show me where I've been going wrong.

All I have been saying is that there's a verse saying believe in something, and I am saying that we should look into what type of belief it is talking about.

If I say I believe God sent a book, this statement does not indicate whether I believe the book has been changed or not, so further clarification I go to the rest of the Qu'ran and the statements of the Prophet.

Don't you think we should refer and get the meanings from the Qu'ran itself and the Prophet?

 

[Balthasar21]

Enlighten me, show me where I've been going wrong.

All I have been saying is that there's a verse saying believe in something, and I am saying that we should look into what type of belief it is talking about.

If I say I believe God sent a book, this statement does not indicate whether I believe the book has been changed or not, so further clarification I go to the rest of the Qu'ran and the statements of the Prophet.

Don't you think we should refer and get the meanings from the Qu'ran itself and the Prophet?

According to the Quraan Allahu Subhaanahu Wa Ta'Ala telling you to also read the scriptures that came Before the Quraan , I'm not saying anything Allahu Subhaanahu Wa Ta'Ala saying this .

 

[Balthasar21]

No, it is not funny at all. Jesus Christ, God in human flesh came to earth 2 000 years ago. He was crucified to pay for our sins , so that those who believe in Him could be saved and go to paradise. He was killed and after ressurected. Those who believe in Him and His message are christians. Those who reject His divinity, like jeahova witnesses, are simply not christians. And do you know what mormons believe? Their theology is very different from catholic, orthodox and protestant belief. Mormons believe in material God, who had beggining and was born from other God. People according to mormons after death can gain God's attributes, so they are the same being with God, which can not be connect with christian belief. Mormonism was made in contrary to whole christianity, its prophet and creator Joseph Smith called all christian churches as contradict with christianity. And jeahova witnesses don't even call themselves christians, they call themselves jeahova witnesses and they believe just like muslims and jews that Jesus Christ wasn't Son of God.

OverStand Something ok about the trinity ok !

There Is No Way To Have A Trinity Without First Separating Each Of The Three Things Indivdually To Declare Then A Trinity . By That I Mean , You Have To First Establish That There Is A Father One Thing And A Son Another Thing And A Holy Ghost The Thrid Thing , In order For These Things To Totally Mix And Become One Thing . They Would Have To Start Off Equal In Rank , Quantity . Space , Density , Authority , Or Existence . In Admitting That The Son Came From The Father , Time Make The Difference , The Father Would Have To Had Been First , Before The Son . This Would Make Them Unequal And Incapable Of Becoming A Balanced Triad . No It Did Not Mean That When It Said God The Father ,,, God The Son , And God The Holy Ghost = One God .. Because Three Cannot Go Into One .

 

[Umar001]

According to the Quraan Allahu Subhaanahu Wa Ta'Ala telling you to also read the scriptures that came Before the Quraan , I'm not saying anything Allahu Subhaanahu Wa Ta'Ala saying this .

Well show us so we can read, you still yet to show me how you understand the statement believe to mean believe they are unchanged and should be read.

 

[Amadeus85]

OverStand Something ok about the trinity ok !

There Is No Way To Have A Trinity Without First Separating Each Of The Three Things Indivdually To Declare Then A Trinity . By That I Mean , You Have To First Establish That There Is A Father One Thing And A Son Another Thing And A Holy Ghost The Thrid Thing , In order For These Things To Totally Mix And Become One Thing . They Would Have To Start Off Equal In Rank , Quantity . Space , Density , Authority , Or Existence . In Admitting That The Son Came From The Father , Time Make The Difference , The Father Would Have To Had Been First , Before The Son . This Would Make Them Unequal And Incapable Of Becoming A Balanced Triad . No It Did Not Mean That When It Said God The Father ,,, God The Son , And God The Holy Ghost = One God .. Because Three Cannot Go Into One .

You dont have to understand the concept of trinity. Im sure that you dont understand molecular chemistry or organic chemistry, but it doesnt mean that molecular chemistry or organic chemistry is wrong.
I didnt make up the concept of trinity.In Bible Jesus Christ calls himself Son of God, he talks with His Father and we see the existence of Holy Spirit. It is said in Bible so i believe it, you dont have to.

BTW when Jesus Christ said that He came from The Father it means that He came in human flesh on earth 2 000 years ago.

 

[Balthasar21]

Well show us so we can read, you still yet to show me how you understand the statement believe to mean believe they are unchanged and should be read.

I have given you two or more verse but for some reason you don't want accept it , With all do respect I'm not here to make you believe anything you can accept what the Quraan saying or you can believe whatever you wish . Your playing on words doesn't change what the scriptures are saying . Let not forget Islam is only 1400 years old , So are you saying Allah just made up is mind to sent the Quraan 1400 years go . Let be real here .

 

[Balthasar21]

You dont have to understand the concept of trinity. Im sure that you dont understand molecular chemistry or organic chemistry, but it doesnt mean that molecular chemistry or organic chemistry is wrong.
I didnt make up the concept of trinity.In Bible Jesus Christ calls himself Son of God, he talks with His Father and we see the existence of Holy Spirit. It is said in Bible so i believe it, you dont have to.

BTW when Jesus Christ said that He came from The Father it means that He came in human flesh on earth 2 000 years ago.

So your saying Jesus is God and he talks to himself Yes .

 

[Zulkiflim]

No, it is not funny at all. Jesus Christ, God in human flesh came to earth 2 000 years ago. He was crucified to pay for our sins , so that those who believe in Him could be saved and go to paradise. He was killed and after ressurected. Those who believe in Him and His message are christians. Those who reject His divinity, like jeahova witnesses, are simply not christians. And do you know what mormons believe? Their theology is very different from catholic, orthodox and protestant belief. Mormons believe in material God, who had beggining and was born from other God. People according to mormons after death can gain God's attributes, so they are the same being with God, which can not be connect with christian belief. Mormonism was made in contrary to whole christianity, its prophet and creator Joseph Smith called all christian churches as contradict with christianity. And jeahova witnesses don't even call themselves christians, they call themselves jeahova witnesses and they believe just like muslims and jews that Jesus Christ wasn't Son of God.

Salaam,

You have written the answer for your own question.

The only problem is you see it as an answer while other who read it sees it as a problem.

You say they are,they say you are not.

In Islam it is simple..
Quran is ONE
Allah is ONE.
Ummah is ONE.

If you worship other than Allah you are not a muslim.
If you say the Propeht Muhammad saw is not the seal of the Propeht then you are not a muslim.
If you worship creation instead of the Creator then you are not a muslim.
If you worship idols then you are not a muslim.


So it is ismple in Islam,while you are basing your faith on why the "majority" follow a set of rules.
In Islam it aint about majority.

It is about pureness.
That is why the Quran is UNCHAGED.
A miracle of Miracles.

 

[Amadeus85]

Salaam,

You have written the answer for your own question.

The only problem is you see it as an answer while other who read it sees it as a problem.

You say they are,they say you are not.

In Islam it is simple..
Quran is ONE
Allah is ONE.
Ummah is ONE.

If you worship other than Allah you are not a muslim.
If you say the Propeht Muhammad saw is not the seal of the Propeht then you are not a muslim.
If you worship creation instead of the Creator then you are not a muslim.
If you worship idols then you are not a muslim.


So it is ismple in Islam,while you are basing your faith on why the "majority" follow a set of rules.
In Islam it aint about majority.

It is about pureness.
That is why the Quran is UNCHAGED.
A miracle of Miracles.

In christianity it is also very simple, you have to believe in Jesus Christ as the only way to salvation and God in human flesh and believe in Bible as the only holy book. Thats it. If you dont do it , you are not a christian. Thats why neither jeahovas witnesses nor mormons are christians.

 

[Umar001]

I have given you two or more verse but for some reason you don't want accept it , With all do respect I'm not here to make you believe anything you can accept what the Quraan saying or you can believe whatever you wish . Your playing on words doesn't change what the scriptures are saying . Let not forget Islam is only 1400 years old , So are you saying Allah just made up is mind to sent the Quraan 1400 years go . Let be real here .

1. What verses. If you mean:

With all do respect sound like you want to pick and choose what you want to believe . But we can agree to disagree but I rather let the scriptures tell us what The Most High saying .

El Holy Qur'aan Chapter 89 , Verse 1 -5 ( Original order 89 ) Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. And I Quote ;Alif ; Adam -Laam ; Laytul Qadri , 'The Shadow Hour of Power ; Miym ; Muhammad ( the first and the last of the ones sent , of The Seed Of Adam ) .

Verse 2 . The Source , Allah is He ( He Not We ) who no Illaaha ( Allahs ) 'Sources ' would exist , except by way of Him ( Hu - The Force Of Creative Will ) . He is Al Hayyu ' The Everliving , Al Qayuwm '' The Subsisting . Verse 3. He ( He Not We ) Nazala 'Sent Down on you , ( Muhammad ) Al Kitaab '' The Scriptures ( Qur'aan ) Bi -Al Haqq '' With The Facts ( beyond any doubt ) , Musaddiqaan ' Confirming what is between Yadayhi ''His Hands ' ,( These are the scriptures before the Quraan ) ; and Anzala ' He Sent Down Al Tawraat '' The Torah and Al Injiy 'The Evangel ( send down the Injiyl but gave it to Yashu's / Isa ) Verse

4 . ( The other scriptures ) are Hudaa 'Calmness ' from before ( Quraan ) , for Al Naas ''The Enosites , ( the Children of Israel and the Torah ) ; And Anzala 'He Sent Down Al Furqaan ' The Differentiation . Surely , those who conceal what they know to be the facts , about Allah's Ayyaat 'Verses ' ( which are all His scriptures ) ; for them there will be a pain that is Shadiyd ' Forceful , and The Source Allah has the might , for He ( He Not We ) is the Aziyz '' Mighty of the Intiqaam ' Avenger .

Verse 5 . Surely , nothing in Al Samaa-i 'the Heavenly Skies , ( The Firmaments ) or the 'Planet Earth is Yakhfaa 'Hidden from The Source , Allah .

Then I find that very hard to read, like: El Holy Qur'aan Chapter 89 , Verse 1 -5 ( Original order 89 ) Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. And I Quote ;Alif ; Adam -Laam ; Laytul Qadri , 'The Shadow Hour of Power ; Miym ; Muhammad ( the first and the last of the ones sent , of The Seed Of Adam ) .

Al Holy Qu'ran then chapter 89 which is surah fajr? In the original order? Well I dont know what it is in the original order I rather keep it how the Prophet and companions kept it. you quote, Alif Adam Laam? I dont have a clue where it ever says Alif Adam Laam, and then Laytul Qadri and then Miym Muhammad..

The above is confusing to say the least so if thats what you mean then maybe you could be abit more clear for me please.

2. All I asked was for clarity, just because you cant show it does not mean that I am twisting words, I have asked believe in the scripture in what way.

3. So are you saying Allah just made up is mind to sent the Quraan 1400 years go . << I dont understand what you mean.

In christianity it is also very simple, you have to believe in Jesus Christ as the only way to salvation and God in human flesh and believe in Bible as the only holy book. Thats it. If you dont do it , you are not a christian. Thats why neither jeahovas witnesses nor mormons are christians.

You keep saying God in human flesh but you havent shown anywhere where the Bible makes that a condition for accepting Jesus, what you fail to see is that on the grounds of your scripture you have yet to show they are not Christians.

 

[Balthasar21]

1. What verses. If you mean:



Then I find that very hard to read, like: El Holy Qur'aan Chapter 89 , Verse 1 -5 ( Original order 89 ) Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. And I Quote ;Alif ; Adam -Laam ; Laytul Qadri , 'The Shadow Hour of Power ; Miym ; Muhammad ( the first and the last of the ones sent , of The Seed Of Adam ) .

Al Holy Qu'ran then chapter 89 which is surah fajr? In the original order? Well I dont know what it is in the original order I rather keep it how the Prophet and companions kept it. you quote, Alif Adam Laam? I dont have a clue where it ever says Alif Adam Laam, and then Laytul Qadri and then Miym Muhammad..

The above is confusing to say the least so if thats what you mean then maybe you could be abit more clear for me please.

2. All I asked was for clarity, just because you cant show it does not mean that I am twisting words, I have asked believe in the scripture in what way.

3. So are you saying Allah just made up is mind to sent the Quraan 1400 years go . << I dont understand what you mean.



You keep saying God in human flesh but you havent shown anywhere where the Bible makes that a condition for accepting Jesus, what you fail to see is that on the grounds of your scripture you have yet to show they are not Christians.

Lakum Diinukum Wa Li Ya Diin

 

[Umar001]

Wa Iyyak

 

[Walter]

Hi Al Habeshi:

This thread has been busy over the weekend. I have reviewed your comments and respond as follows.

1. Christians going to Heaven

The Koran explains that its purpose was to point people to a relationship with God. The example of this relationship is Abraham’s friendship with God. Note:

4:125 - Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take Abraham for a friend.

Christians also have this relationship with God. This is acknowledged in the Koran.

3:113-115: Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right.

2. Those Books that were around during the time of Mohammed are available to us today.

Now, there were many religious leaders who Mohammed was very angry with. They distorted what was written down. Mohammed challenged them to bring the Books and read from them.

3:78 - There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it!

3:93 - All food was lawful to the Children of Israel, except what Israel Made unlawful for itself, before the Law (of Moses) was revealed. Say: "Bring ye the Law and study it, if ye be men of truth."

7:91 - No just estimate of Allah do they make when they say: "Nothing doth Allah send down to man (by way of revelation)" Say: "Who then sent down the Book which Moses brought?- a light and guidance to man: But ye make it into sheets for show, while ye conceal much (of its contents): therein were ye taught that which ye knew not- neither ye nor your fathers." Say: "Allah (sent it down)": Then leave them to plunge in vain discourse and trifling.

3. The Koran encourages Muslims to study these Books that were previously sent to the Israelites and Christians.

So the issue was not about the accuracy or availability of the Books, but the misinterpretation. Muslims are not encouraged to listen to such people.

3:100 - O ye who believe! If ye listen to a faction among the People of the Book, they would (indeed) render you apostates after ye have believed!

However, they are instructed to read the Books for themselves and even request assistance if they need it.

6:155-156 - And this is a Book which We have revealed as a blessing: so follow it and be righteous, that ye may receive mercy: Lest ye should say: "The Book was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by assiduous study:"

10:94 - If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.

Actually, Muslims are not just directed to read, study and believe these Books, but they were encouraged to also copy them that all nations may believe.

7:89 - 90 - These were the men to whom We gave the Book, and authority, and prophethood: if these (their descendants) reject them, Behold! We shall entrust their charge to a new people who reject them not. Those were the (prophets) who received Allah's guidance: Copy the guidance they received; Say: "No reward for this do I ask of you: This is no less than a message for the nations."

Regards,
Grenville

 

[Umar001]

Howdy Grenville

1. How would you reconcile your belief with statements in the Qur'an like:

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islām, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. (Aali Imran 3:85)

2. How about 2;79 which was explained also by the explainer of the Quran Ibn Abbas;

Ibn Abbas said, "O Muslims? How do you ask the people of the Scriptures, though your Book (i.e. the Quran) which was revealed to His Prophet is the most recent information from Allah and you recite it, the Book that has not been distorted? Allah has revealed to you that the people of the scriptures have changed with their own hands what was revealed to them and they have said (as regards their changed Scriptures): This is from Allah, in order to get some worldly benefit thereby." Ibn Abbas added: "Isn't the knowledge revealed to you sufficient to prevent you from asking them? By Allah I have never seen any one of them asking (Muslims) about what has been revealed to you."

Sahih Bukhari, Book 48, Number 850

3. I cant find some quotes like 7:89-90, what translation are you using? As for the rest of the stuff, then like surah 6, all it mentions is that a book the Qur'an has come to them, the arabs lest they should give escuses llike it was only given to the Jews and Christians and we did not know their language or stuff, read the verses

And this is a blessed Book (the Qur'ān) which We have sent down, so follow it and fear Allāh (i.e. do not disobey His Orders), that you may receive mercy (i.e. saved from the torment of Hell). (Al-An'am 6:155)

Lest you (pagan Arabs) should say: "The Book was only sent down to two sects before us (the Jews and the Christians), and for our part, we were in fact unaware of what they studied." (Al-An'am 6:156)

Or lest you (pagan Arabs) should say: "If only the Book had been sent down to us, we would surely have been better guided than they (Jews and Christians)." So now has come unto you a clear proof (the Qur'ān) from your Lord, and a guidance and a mercy. (part of the next verse)

So it is clear, Allah is saying that the book has come down to them lest they says stuff like 'Oh it was given to the Jews and Christians but not us' or 'If a book was given to us we would have done better' no, Allah has given them the proof and now they should act.

That's all nothing about learning Gospel or Torah.

The 10:94 tells Muhammad to ask them about what Allah has revealed, this can be things which although the bible had changed were still in their books,

Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e.Muhammad SAW) whom they find written with them in the Taurāt (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) 7:157 part of the verse.

So this is one of the things that Allah allowed to be still unchanged, now someone asks, well look this shows they have not changed, well no, since we have statements that they have changed and then a statement pertaining to one case, we can come to the conclusion that they have changed except for some cases where the truth is there and these places are not clear, but God knows and pointed this particular place out. THis accomodates both statements and also is historically plausible and logically plausable since retaining the description of Muhammad is evidence against those who disbelieve.

This is only a brief statement, I have been writing other stuff and replyin to other matters I will post in more detail at a later day, God willing, if you wish then please reply and post comments to save me from writing a longer answer if there are other points to also be adressed.

Regards,

Eesa

 

[Balthasar21]

Where did the Qur'aan get its teaching from ? Please no side steping the question .

 

[Walter]

Hi Al Habeshi:

In response.

1. Christians in Heaven

3:85 actually says: And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.

Therefore Christians also surrender to the God of Abraham.

2. Books not Corrupted

2:78-79 actually says - Among them are unlettered folk who know the Scripture not except from hearsay. They but guess. Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby.

These are clearly wicked men who along with people described in 3:78 are not a part of the Christians described in 3:113-115.

3. Muslims to study previous Books

My mistake. It was actually 6:89-91 and not 7:89-91.

It shows that the scriptures were available to read and copy during Mohammed’s time.

Regarding your interpretation of 6:157, I think that the Book given to Moses in 6:156 is the same Book referred to in 6:156 and 157 which Muslims should be acquainted with. 6:156 may be critical in understanding 6:157.

6:156 - Lest ye should say: "The Book was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by assiduous study”.

Regards,
Grenville

 

[Umar001]

Hi Al Habeshi:

In response.

1. Christians in Heaven

3:85 actually says: And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.

Therefore Christians also surrender to the God of Abraham.

Where are you getting your translations from, they are amazing.

This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islām as your religion.

pretty simple, so whoever choses other than Islam is doomed.

2. Books not Corrupted

2:78-79 actually says - Among them are unlettered folk who know the Scripture not except from hearsay. They but guess. Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby.

These are clearly wicked men who along with people described in 3:78 are not a part of the Christians described in 3:113-115.

Yes, it does say that and you have seen what it means, Muhammad's disciple actually told the people, "O Muslims? How do you ask the people of the Scriptures, though your Book (i.e. the Quran) which was revealed to His Prophet is the most recent information from Allah and you recite it, the Book that has not been distorted? Allah has revealed to you that the people of the scriptures have changed with their own hands what was revealed to them and they have said (as regards their changed Scriptures): This is from Allah, in order to get some worldly benefit thereby." Ibn Abbas added: "Isn't the knowledge revealed to you sufficient to prevent you from asking them? By Allah I have never seen any one of them asking (Muslims) about what has been revealed to you."

It is pretty clear, people write the book with their own hands, so we have a party that does that, and now we have also the bible contradicting the QUran so what is the conclusion? That that party obviously outwon the other.


It is pretty clear if we approach this without bias, taking the Quran and the Hadith and the way it was understood by Muhammad and his companions, but if we want to come 1400+ years later and say 'no no.....' then that can be done with anything, but it has no solid basis for it.

i will reply to the rest as I need to read about it.

But if we are here to impose our own understanding then anyone can do that, but we should take the quran as a whole, with its meaning, not add our own meaning and if we do then we should prove why its superior or true.

Eesa.

 

[Umar001]

Where did the Qur'aan get its teaching from ? Please no side steping the question .

The Qur'an is the word of God, God didnt take the teaching from another source. But rather God was the source. I believe.

 

[Balthasar21]

Wa Iyyak

Question; How well do you think you know the Bible / Quraan ?