How much Christians know about Bible? What about Muslims?

Keltoi said:
I agree with you. I think I was becoming slightly annoyed. It would have been better just to leave the forum for awhile and come back with a smile. Sometimes rants are good for mental health..:D

I realize we are in a Muslim forum. I don't expect Muslims to accept the Christian faith or agree on the nature of God as Christians see Him. I'm sure when Muslims visit a Christian forum they too feel fairly uncomfortable with the way their faith is characterized there.
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Thanks for the reminder. We do have a tendancy to forget that non-Muslims do not share all of our beliefs. We do need to be more aware that you and other members may be made uncomfortable by some of the things we say. I know I have a very difficult time when I try to find information about Christian Beliefs on Christian sites.
 
Woodrow said:
Thanks for the reminder. We do have a tendancy to forget that non-Muslims do not share all of our beliefs. We do need to be more aware that you and other members may be made uncomfortable by some of the things we say. I know I have a very difficult time when I try to find information about Christian Beliefs on Christian sites.
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Just buy yourself a bible then your able to say this verse say this or that . same goes for christian . Its call leting the scriptures speak for The Most Hight , Because Man / Woman always trying to add their words to the scriptures , They learn this trick from their teacher .
 



Salaam/peace;



Keltoi said:
.... I'm sure when Muslims visit a Christian forum they too feel fairly uncomfortable with the way their faith is characterized there.
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well , to by annoyed , we don't have to go any non-Muslim sites . Staying here is enough :enough!:


......specially in Q & A threads ....debate is not allowed there ..... few ( fortunately they are few ) non-Muslims freely bash Islam & the last Prophet (p) there .


Once i was soooooooo sad & annyoed that i almost thought of leaving this forum.


Surely u don't expect that u can do any publicity of ur religion here ; but as a Muslim at least i can expect that no one should be allowed here to mock Islam ; but that's not the case here always.

So , before u get upset next time , try to understand my/ our pain :cry:

take care.




 
Muslim Woman said:



Salaam/peace;







well , to by annoyed , we don't have to go any non-Muslim sites . Staying here is enough :enough!:


......specially in Q & A threads ....debate is not allowed there ..... few ( fortunately they are few ) non-Muslims freely bash Islam & the last Prophet (p) there .


Once i was soooooooo sad & annyoed that i almost thought of leaving this forum.


Surely u don't expect that u can do any publicity of ur religion here ; but as a Muslim at least i can expect that no one should be allowed here to mock Islam ; but that's not the case here always.

So , before u get upset next time , try to understand my/ our pain :cry:

take care.
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The intention of the majority of Christians on this forum, and I'm referring to the long-time members, is not to attack Islam. I think that should be fairly evident. I respect Islam and Muslims a great deal. I believe Muslims worship the same God that I do. Why would I attack someone whom I believe to worship the same God as me? Obviously we are going to disagree on doctrine and other matters, but we don't have to be disagreeable. I'm slightly at a loss as to why you feel Islam is being attacked by non-Muslims on this forum....especially the Christian members.
 
Keltoi said:
The intention of the majority of Christians on this forum, and I'm referring to the long-time members, is not to attack Islam. I think that should be fairly evident. I respect Islam and Muslims a great deal. I believe Muslims worship the same God that I do. Why would I attack someone whom I believe to worship the same God as me? Obviously we are going to disagree on doctrine and other matters, but we don't have to be disagreeable. I'm slightly at a loss as to why you feel Islam is being attacked by non-Muslims on this forum....especially the Christian members.
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Ditto.


Seriously, do you find me attacking Islam? I can't say that I agree with it when I don't. But I don't think I go around slamming it either. Indeed, I am offended by nonsense and illogical arguments whether presented by Muslims or Christians. And to me it appears that there are both reasoned and unreasoned arguments presented by people of all faiths. But the faith of Islam itself, I don't find offensive at all, and would hope you don't read that behind my posts.
 
Sunnih said:
Whatever you might call it.:thumbs_up
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Why should I belive what the Qur'an says about Jesus when it has been written without eye witnesses of what Jesus said and did? We have the Bible and in it there are witnesses who have been with Jesus. I think under the circumstances, I am better off being a Christian, because the Bible is all the truth I know. According to the Qur'an, Allah may deceide to have Mercy on me for living a holy life, but according to the Bible, there is no salvation outside of confessing Jesus as :statisfie Lord.
 
alapiana1 said:
Why should I belive what the Qur'an says about Jesus when it has been written without eye witnesses of what Jesus said and did? We have the Bible and in it there are witnesses who have been with Jesus. I think under the circumstances, I am better off being a Christian, because the Bible is all the truth I know. According to the Qur'an, Allah may deceide to have Mercy on me for living a holy life, but according to the Bible, there is no salvation outside of confessing Jesus as :statisfie Lord.
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Not quite as simple as that. Allah may (I believe will) punish you for saying Jesus is God and Son of God. That is according to my understanding of the Quran that I hold as the Word of Allah.
 
MustafaMc said:
Not quite as simple as that. Allah may (I believe will) punish you for saying Jesus is God and Son of God. That is according to my understanding of the Quran that I hold as the Word of Allah.
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Yes, I understand and I can't even tell you that I'll take my chances, because there are no chances about it. I trust that the Holy Spirit will lead me into all truth. By the way, you didn't answer the question. :D
 
Muslim Woman said:



Salaam/peace;







well , to by annoyed , we don't have to go any non-Muslim sites . Staying here is enough :enough!:


......specially in Q & A threads ....debate is not allowed there ..... few ( fortunately they are few ) non-Muslims freely bash Islam & the last Prophet (p) there .


Once i was soooooooo sad & annyoed that i almost thought of leaving this forum.


Surely u don't expect that u can do any publicity of ur religion here ; but as a Muslim at least i can expect that no one should be allowed here to mock Islam ; but that's not the case here always.

So , before u get upset next time , try to understand my/ our pain :cry:

take care.
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I haven't seen any Christians mocking Muslims on this forum, but I wish I could say the same the other way around.:omg:
 
Grace Seeker said:
Then you just haven't seen it. I've seen it both ways.
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It does happen in both directions. However, I feel that in spite of our differences, they is a lot of mutual respect for all people and most of the time most of us really do try to keep our disagreements directed to the topic and not to a person.
 
alapiana1 said:
Why should I belive what the Qur'an says about Jesus when it has been written without eye witnesses of what Jesus said and did?
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The issue is eye witness accounts vs. revelation from God - which would you trust?

Who was the eye witness for Jesus' temptation during his 40 day fast?

Who witnessed Jesus' trial before the Sanhedrin and Pilate?
 
MustafaMc said:
Not quite as simple as that. Allah may (I believe will) punish you for saying Jesus is God and Son of God. That is according to my understanding of the Quran that I hold as the Word of Allah.
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My question was about the eye witnesses of Jesus. You know I still think I am better off as I stand, because You are going by hear say on what Jesus said and did, but I am going by eye witnesses; moreover, you are going to be judge by your works as a Muslim, and I am not, because I cannot control what I believe, but I can control with God's help what I do. I am doing the spiritual math here: You will be judge by works, and I won't. My works might be just as good as yours. That is why you don't know if on the last day Allah will accept you. I know already, because Jesus has me covered with God. It is like we are going into a court room being guilty in front of the judge, but the difference between us is you are representing yourself, and I have the best advocate in the universe. We will see each other, if not in this life, on the judgment day, and then we won't need to have these forum discussion anymore, because it will be too late.
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Sorry.. despite responding to a post in this thread have moved it to the 'Trinity' thread, where it is more appropriate.
 
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MustafaMc said:
The issue is eye witness accounts vs. revelation from God - which would you trust?

Who was the eye witness for Jesus' temptation during his 40 day fast?

Who witnessed Jesus' trial before the Sanhedrin and Pilate?
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If I had received the revelation, then I would trust the revelation from God. But what you are asking me to trust is Muhammad's (pbuh) word that he received a revelation from God. And I am asking you to trust Jesus' companions that these are the things they actually witnessed Jesus say and do and insights into his nature, character, and history which he revealed to them.
 
Grace Seeker said:
If I had received the revelation, then I would trust the revelation from God. But what you are asking me to trust is Muhammad's (pbuh) word that he received a revelation from God. And I am asking you to trust Jesus' companions that these are the things they actually witnessed Jesus say and do and insights into his nature, character, and history which he revealed to them.
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So are you saying that one or more disciples witnessed Jesus' temptation and trial?
 


Salaam/peace;


alapiana1 said:
....you don't know if on the last day Allah will accept you. I know already, because Jesus has me covered with God.
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do u believe ALL Chrisitians have reserved seats in heaven ? Pl. show me verse where Bible says so ?

 

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