Saudi justice

[MTAFFI]

hola

saying that getting raped for them is a walk in the part, you hope they die, they are a drain on humanity and using misogynist swear words to describe them isn't 'giving up.' it's never giving them a chance. you write with all of the arrogance and self satisfaction of a person whose convinced himself he's successful and he's gotten there because of his hard work, paying lip service to God so that others will think you're as righteous as you view yourself. choosing not to have compassion is not righteous, it's deplorable, speaking about rape like it's only as bad as who it happens to is equally deplorable. i sincerely hope you grow a sense of humility.

que Dios te bendiga

lol

wow from such a short conversation you can derive all that about me? I am flattered. Listen the walk in the park thing was from a physical aspect only, which I already mentioned so try and keep up, the emotional distress is probably the same for all, but I am quite sure that a woman like those I am speaking of would not take the same type of physical abuse to her woman parts as a 19 year old virgin, that should be simple enough for you to understand.

As far as me wishing they would die, please show me where I said that, I simply said it wouldnt effect me either way. They are a drain on humanity and the word that used to describe them accurately fits, you are welcome to look it up in websters, so why shouldnt i call a duck a duck?

I pay no lip service to anyone, I live my life the best that I can can these women say the same? Do they deserve my respect or compassion? I personally dont think so, how can I respect someone who doesnt respect themself? Look you can defend these women all you want but we obviously have different opinions and I dont wish to offend you any further, I hope that we can speak on another topic sometime where you can see that I am in fact a compassionate individual and I that I dont claim to be as righteous as you may think, in fact I am far from it and I know that and at times I am disgusted with myself because of it. But I do no right from wrong, I know these women are wrong, and I know that the world would be better if it didnt have people perpetrating the acts that they do in it.

 

[MTAFFI]

I'll just piggyback on your posts and say: Ditto because................

another delightful example of my last reply to you... wow +o(

 

[NoName55]

^^ I have no choice but to piggyback on to other's posts because ..... otherwise my replies vanish in to cyber bin

 

[Jayda]

lol

wow from such a short conversation you can derive all that about me? I am flattered. Listen the walk in the park thing was from a physical aspect only, which I already mentioned so try and keep up, the emotional distress is probably the same for all, but I am quite sure that a woman like those I am speaking of would not take the same type of physical abuse to her woman parts as a 19 year old virgin, that should be simple enough for you to understand.

As far as me wishing they would die, please show me where I said that, I simply said it wouldnt effect me either way. They are a drain on humanity and the word that used to describe them accurately fits, you are welcome to look it up in websters, so why shouldnt i call a duck a duck?

I pay no lip service to anyone, I live my life the best that I can can these women say the same? Do they deserve my respect or compassion? I personally dont think so, how can I respect someone who doesnt respect themself? Look you can defend these women all you want but we obviously have different opinions and I dont wish to offend you any further, I hope that we can speak on another topic sometime where you can see that I am in fact a compassionate individual and I that I dont claim to be as righteous as you may think, in fact I am far from it and I know that and at times I am disgusted with myself because of it. But I do no right from wrong, I know these women are wrong, and I know that the world would be better if it didnt have people perpetrating the acts that they do in it.

given what i know about your views so far i'm hard pressed to find a topic that might demonstrate you have compassion.

do you like pets?

 

[MTAFFI]

given what i know about your views so far i'm hard pressed to find a topic that might demonstrate you have compassion.

do you like pets?

yes I love animals and nature, kind of odd those since I also love to hunt! There ya go! I also love God, my family hmmm what else oh yeah poor people, sick people and anyone basically who isnt immoral and disgusting or doesnt contribute to the basic degeneration of mankind. I also love charities, I love travel, fishing, I love vacations too, I could probably go on and on.... I am sure there will be a thread someday that we will both agree on (or at least I would hope so otherwise I may feel a bit like a narrow minded individual)

 

[MTAFFI]

^^ I have no choice but to piggyback on to other's posts because ..... otherwise my replies vanish in to cyber bin

perhaps you should reword them to comply with forum rules? :? ;D

 

[NoName55]

perhaps you should reword them to comply with forum rules? :? ;D

tried that in the beginning and it did not work.

it has more to do with content of posts than the tone. I have been experimenting here for nearly a year. and found a definite trend and bias against reason and fairness.

 

[جوري]

tried that in the beginning and it did not work.

it has more to do with content of posts than the tone. I have been experimenting here for nearly a year. and found a definite trend and bias against reason and fairness.

This is actually one of the reasons I don't frequent this section...everyone gets the same news, there is no point in people sitting here all day and pretending to be political analysts.. I was never convinced of anyone else's opinion nor cared much for it, in the scheme of things with google and wiki ever handy to loan credence to very ailing argument, so that in the end you may sit there and stifle a yawn or shrug your shoulders... everyone wants to appear really 'intelligent' when in fact they haven't a clue how much of a conforming herd they actually are!-- it isn't world shattering what is huckstered here, it is nothing more than gossip discussed by sub-mediocre folks ...

 

[MTAFFI]

This is actually one of the reasons I don't frequent this section...everyone gets the same news, there is no point in people sitting here all day and pretending to be political analysts.. I was never convinced of anyone else's opinion nor cared much for it, in the scheme of things with google and wiki ever handy to loan credence to very ailing argument, so that in the end you may sit there and stifle a yawn or shrug your shoulders... everyone wants to appear really 'intelligent' when in fact they haven't a clue how much of a conforming herd they actually are!-- it isn't world shattering what is huckstered here, it is nothing more than gossip discussed by sub-mediocre folks ...

that isnt nice :thankyou:

 

[Woodrow]

that isnt nice :thankyou:

I agree, it is not nice.
















However, it is one of the truest statements I have read today. Perhaps each of us should re-examine our intent, before posting in this section.

 

[Malaikah]

The bible and the Quran say to kill these women, yet you defend them, the sad reality is these women typically die at a young age addicted to drugs or of a sexually transmitted disease and it is no ones fault but their own, I poked fun at them because it is the truth and they disgust me.

Just to clarify- the punishment for prostitution is not death in Islam. It is only death is the prostitute was married and cheating on her husband, and even then it would be almost impossible for her to be sentenced to death because of the very strict requirements of four trust worthy witnesses witnessing the whole act.

 

[NoName55]

The bible and the Quran say to kill these women, yet you defend them

is there social security in place for them? where are their walis(protectors, providers)?

simple childish interpretations of biblical or Quraanic Ayahs does no good to any one.


in my Utopian shariah state all causes of crimes would be removed first and foremost (before we start dishing out penalties we need to be sure that person was educated/sane enough to know the difference between right and wrong) if no such system exists then I will make do with British system of rehabilitation (without element of punishment)

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Just to clarify- the punishment for prostitution is not death in Islam. It only be death is the prostitute was married and cheating on her husband, and even then it would be almost impossible for her to be sentenced to death because of the very strict requirements of four trust worthy witnesses witnessing the whole act.

in surah Al-Nisaa 4: 15 punishment for the crime of prostitution is given as house arrest till natural death (or rehabilitation?) (-- 'until God ordains for them another way' -- )

4:15. if any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; and if They testify, confine them to houses until death claims them, or Allah ordain for them another way.

 

[barney]

I agree, it is not nice

However, it is one of the truest statements I have read today. Perhaps each of us should re-examine our intent, before posting in this section.

It's pretty nice for PA to be honest. We have "intelligent" "sub-mediocre", "Herd".

It's ticking all the boxes for a Ambypost, (meaningless attacks).

So people Google their infomation. OOOH! I and millions of others flagelete themselves for lacking the intellect to go to the libary and spend 20000 hours looking up the wrong infomation. We can Google and get a broad veiw if we so incline in seconds.

Some may wish to discount personal rescerch as less valid than someone elses research (Scholars) ( Political commentary), but who deceides whos infomation is valid. Well phear not, because we have a higher intellect to guide us in that answer. And its Postcount is Mighty!

 

[جوري]

It's pretty nice for PA to be honest. We have "intelligent" "sub-mediocre", "Herd".

Nah..see you are confused again.. hence we state..don't enter if the subject is going to fly completely over your head...

It's ticking all the boxes for a Ambypost, (meaningless attacks).

You 'musta' taken it all too personally because the boxes especially the latter two apply to your person?!

So people Google their infomation. OOOH! I and millions of others flagelete themselves for lacking the intellect to go to the libary and spend 20000 hours looking up the wrong infomation. We can Google and get a broad veiw if we so incline in seconds.

Indeed like putting a brand new pair of glasses on an illiterate!

Some may wish to discount personal rescerch as less valid than someone elses research (Scholars) ( Political commentary), but who deceides whos infomation is valid. Well phear not, because we have a higher intellect to guide us in that answer. And its Postcount is Mighty!

and we are slightly in agreement..who decides? If by the end of the day it all comes down to your opinion vs. someone else's.. Yours I say is worth a partially eaten twinkie!


cheers

 

[NoName55]

This is actually one of the reasons I don't frequent this section...everyone gets the same news, there is no point in people sitting here all day and pretending to be political analysts.. I was never convinced of anyone else's opinion nor cared much for it, in the scheme of things with google and wiki ever handy to loan credence to very ailing argument, so that in the end you may sit there and stifle a yawn or shrug your shoulders... everyone wants to appear really 'intelligent' when in fact they haven't a clue how much of a conforming herd they actually are!-- it isn't world shattering what is huckstered here, it is nothing more than gossip discussed by sub-mediocre folks ...

I believe I have as much a chance of succeeding in having a serious talk on this site as a snowball in hell, would have (of not melting).

an example so-called debate >> .<<

 

[جوري]

I believe I have as much a chance of succeeding in having a serious talk on this site as a snowball in hell, would have (of not melting).

I hear ya... we have career satirists here, except not even remotely skilled so that I may be partially amused...

 

[MTAFFI]

Nah..see you are confused again.. hence we state..don't enter if the subject is going to fly completely over your head...



You 'musta' taken it all too personally because the boxes especially the latter two apply to your person?!


Indeed like putting a brand new pair of glasses on an illiterate!



and we are slightly in agreement..who decides? If by the end of the day it all comes down to your opinion vs. someone else's.. Yours I say is worth a partially eaten twinkie!


cheers

why so condescending? I am not sure if I was included in any of the insults but if I were you I wouldnt claim that anyone here is any more or less intelligent than yourself. Yes this is World Affairs, and no I dont think there are any political analysts here but I actually enjoy reading and discussing with other people their views, I think it is healthy to get a good dose of disagreement and in some ways it opens more doors and ways of thinking than the news could ever provide. I guess all I am saying is instead of coming in with the constant negative and sense of higher intelligence, maybe realize that you are no better than anyone else posting here and in some instances far worse. Yes at the end of the day it accomplishes nothing here to the whole, but to the person it might light some bulbs and allow them to see things from anothers perspective. If it wasnt for this babble I may have never started to read the Quran and try to learn about Islam like I am today.

PEACE PA

 

[جوري]

There are no light bulbs going off anywhere. It is a mudslinger match and descent into petty word play.

Otherwise sane folks lose their reason and rationality here.. as for my intellect or lack thereof, that isn't what is on trial here... rather the air of disdainfulness and patronizing of anyone whose views are considered inferior or different to mainstream fox which is gulped up here like sweet nectar!...

Frankly what you have written above is an adequate assessment of the regulars from a spectators view... just step back and have a look without writing.. it is easy to pick up!

cheers

 

[NoName55]

reading Quraan? Yeah Right!

look here >> http://www.islamicboard.com/world-affairs/53570-saudi-justice-8.html#post862026

all I saw was a distortion NOT understanding!

 

[al-muslimah]

Those saudi apostates ahve betrayed the ummah they don't even know correct sharia.They just sit down with their coffee and dates and are as Shaykh Feiz said " comfortable " what traitor.They are nothing like their greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat granfather Muhammad ibn saud he was atrue man whil abdulaziz and Faysal and Fahd are all murtadeen.He would have been ashamed to see them today.