What is the solution to the ummah's problems. (OP)
i wanted to start a really active healthy discussion on an important issue, and to do so i would like to ask whoever reads this, 3 questions :
1. Define the problems of the ummah.
2. What are the solutions to the ummah's problems.
3. How do you fit into that solution
It is hypocritical to provide a solution which you do not fit into yourself, i will reply soon inshaAllah im kind of writing this quite lazily (because its day) and maybe at night when i am slightly more philosophical i will come back to reply with my answers.
I see your point, we need support from imams, scholars and funding to even think of making a diffrence, but mostly we need allah so I say inshallah the ummah will rise.
ye anything can happen with Allah's will. I dont think gathering 500 people will b enuff, it will simply get bush to bomb up us or break open a war or sumthin. I dunno, but still with Allahs help nethin is possible. How can 500 muslims wiv no artillery stand up against bombs and missiles?
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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ye anything can happen with Allah's will. I dont think gathering 500 people will b enuff, it will simply get bush to bomb up us or break open a war or sumthin. I dunno, but still with Allahs help nethin is possible. How can 500 muslims wiv no artillery stand up against bombs and missiles?
Salaam
Remember the story of Moses and the pharoah:rant: look what happend there they had all the power, remember this inshallah if you become a mujahid.
True, we need a strong muslim leaders who won't back down to the kufar, muslims need to come back to the quran and the sunna.
I don't see the issue being us against the "kufar". Instead, I see the need to recognize that the issue lies in tensions amongst the various nations. We need to remember that muslims exist in various nations, even those not guided by Islamic law.
I'd say another major problem that we have is that the cultivation of beauty has gone into decline. The traditional arts and crafts in Muslim lands are endangered, and are primarily patronized by non-Muslims. Where Muslims have migrated and more ethnic groups have adopted Islam, new art forms and innovations in traditional art forms have been lacking. Art conveys humanity, and in a world where many are unable to see the humanity in their neighbors, art is sorely needed.
Brothers, with all due respect, you are looking at the problem in the wrong way. Though may God reward your enthusiasm and your passion.
Leaders, as your discussions are starting to conclude, do not just appear. They cannot just be declared. You will not find the role on Jobsearch.com.
They are crafted. There are some notables even in the UK who I would stand shoulder to shoulder with were they to ask. But no-one of the calibre you talk about. And why?
Because it is WE who hold the key to that. Don't go looking to change the world until you can change yourself. Until you can honestly say that you are living the deen of Allah swt. Combatting the diseases of the heart, and there are many. Conquering the nafs.
We each need to be following the example of the Prophet pbuh - not just reading and forgetting, but living and breathing.
Bukhari
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 111:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
While I was going along with Allah's Apostle who was wearing a Najrani Burd (sheet) with a thick border, a bedouin overtook the Prophet and pulled his Rida' (sheet) forcibly. I looked at the side of the shoulder of the Prophet and noticed that the edge of the Rida' had left a mark on it because of the violence of his pull. The bedouin said, "O Muhammad! Order for me some of Allah's property which you have." The Prophet turned towards him, (smiled) and ordered that he be given something.
The state of the umah will only improve once we realise that it is we who are the problem, not the non-Moslem. We who are the holders of the legacy of the Moghuls, the Ottomans and the Caliphs themselves subhanallah.
We have no more or no less guidance than they did.
The problem is, we tend to expect the state of the umah to improve in months or even years. Realistically, we can be in a far improved state in a few generations if we work hard and sacrifice our worldy desire and follow the deen of Allah swt and His Messenger. Out antecedents hold the key to the future if we but give them the chance.
Because it is WE who hold the key to that. Don't go looking to change the world until you can change yourself. Until you can honestly say that you are living the deen of Allah swt. Combatting the diseases of the heart, and there are many. Conquering the nafs.
We each need to be following the example of the Prophet pbuh - not just reading and forgetting, but living and breathing.
Brother aggreed to the extent...learning about deen should be based on haaq, purley what the Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh) states...therfore 'practice what you preace'...when there are soo many divions within are society and each person having a different view to the next it becomes hard to unite as one Ummah...
I mean for example look at the minor acts implemented by the Muslims; biddha (celebration of Prophet's birthday)...this is bound to cause a rift between our Muslim communities ( it does in my area as one mosque claims they are right n via versa) as one claims it is right and other claims it is false...
We MUST attain knowledge of the Quran and Sunnah and look at how we can improve our selves...take basic steps inshAllah and then the big ones...its easier said then done but inshAllah we shall all be on the striaght path..
"The Spirital warrior is he who breaks an idol; and the idol for each person is his ego"
WalaykumAsalaam x
Ya Muslimeen
Ya Mu’meneen
Open up your eyes
Aim for the ultimate prize
Which is paradise
Allah’s laws
By definition has no flaw
So why do we pause?
Tell me what’s the cause
Hold your applause
Takbir!!!!!
Allahu Akbar
IM a brother!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: and dont tell me that u thought i was a sis!!!!! :mad: :mad:
it is also stuff like the DIRTY KUFAR rap which gives ISLAM and the UMMAH a bad name.
<sigh> It is the ummah that give the ummah a bad name. And ummah who constantly refer to non-Moslems as Kufar especially.
You truly are a clown and yet I find little to laugh about.
Brother aggreed to the extent...learning about deen should be based on haaq, purley what the Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh) states...therfore 'practice what you preace'...when there are soo many divions within are society and each person having a different view to the next it becomes hard to unite as one Ummah...
I mean for example look at the minor acts implemented by the Muslims; biddha (celebration of Prophet's birthday)...this is bound to cause a rift between our Muslim communities ( it does in my area as one mosque claims they are right n via versa) as one claims it is right and other claims it is false...
We MUST attain knowledge of the Quran and Sunnah and look at how we can improve our selves...take basic steps inshAllah and then the big ones...its easier said then done but inshAllah we shall all be on the striaght path..
"The Spirital warrior is he who breaks an idol; and the idol for each person is his ego"
WalaykumAsalaam x
And yet....
This desire to 'unite' stems from what I wonder? Is it our need for greater collective bargaining power for cheaper toiletries? A realisation of potential economies of scale on stationery products?
What does united really mean anyway? Does it mean that we can accept the differences in interpretation that other groups claiming to be Moslem practise? (such as the Prophet's birthday) Or does it mean we eradicate these so that we all do exactly the same thing? Bida is such a commonly used word today - it is thrown about by so many....
You do hit the nail on the head with the self improvement part though.
If we go back to Islam, the way it was practiced by rasul-Allah (SAW) then Allah Ta'ala would make us successors of the Earth, and we would be successful in this life and the NEXT. May Allah restore the Ummah to its' glory!
<sigh> It is the ummah that give the ummah a bad name. And ummah who constantly refer to non-Moslems as Kufar especially.
You truly are a clown and yet I find little to laugh about.
Did you wake up on the wrong side of bed or something?
I wonder if you know what Al Walaau wal Baraa is. That is no way to speak to your brothers and sisters.
Did you wake up on the wrong side of bed or something?
I wonder if you know what Al Walaau wal Baraa is. That is no way to speak to your brothers and sisters.
Hehe! Critique my content sister not the delivery!
(come on, you're a graduate now!)
Al Walaau wal Barah - yes - I have all their records...
"This desire to 'unite' stems from what I wonder? Is it our need for greater collective bargaining power for cheaper toiletries? A realisation of potential economies of scale on stationery products?
What does united really mean anyway? Does it mean that we can accept the differences in interpretation that other groups claiming to be Moslem practise? (such as the Prophet's birthday) Or does it mean we eradicate these so that we all do exactly the same thing? Bida is such a commonly used word today - it is thrown about by so many...."
The Danger of Bid’ah (Innovation) -
Shaad Ahmed
Bid’ah is taken from the word Al-Bada’ meaning to create something without precedence. One needs to distinguish between the two kinds of bid’ah. The first type is innovation in matters of the world in technology, medicine, computers, etc. This is allowed because it involves matters of life. The second kind of bid’ah is innovation in matters of religion, and this is the bid’ah which this article is focusing on.
‘Aisha(R) reported Muhammad(S) said: "Whoever innovates into this affair of ours something that we have not commanded it is to be rejected" (Bukhari and Muslim)
Jaabir (R) narrated Muhammad(S) said, "To proceed: The best speech is the Book of Allah and the best guidance and example is that of Muhammad, and the worse of all things are the newly invented things (in the religion), for every innovation is a error and a misguidance." (Muslim) "…Every innovation is a going astray and every going astray is in the fire." (Tirmidhi)
This shows us there are no acceptable innovations in Islam. People often point to the statement of Umar (R) when talking about the tarawih prayer in Ramadan, "What a good bid’ah this is." We can see Umar (R) simply revived the praying of tarawih and it was not something which he did which was not done by Muhammad (S). We can not do something in Islam which was not done by Muhammad (S) and the Sahaba (companions of Prophet Muhammad (S)).
Allah says (what means):
"This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion" (Al-Maidah 5: 3)
Our religion is already perfect, so doing some deed which is not found in the Qur’an and Sunnah, one seems to think they have come up with a better version of Islam than Allah revealed did. May Allah keep us away from doing such deeds. For Allah tells us about doing something other than the way Muhammad (S) did:
"And let those who oppose the Messenger’s way beware, lest some conflict befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them." (Al-Noor 24:62)
Allah has warned us by telling us what happened to the people of the Book.
"Say, O people of the Book exceed not the bounds in your religion, trespassing beyond the truth. Nor follow the vain desires of people who went astray in times gone by, who mislead many and strayed from the even way. Curses were pronounced on those among the children of Israel who were disbelievers, by the tongue of David and of Jesus son of Mary, because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses." (Al-Maidah 5:77-78)
We can also see another consequence of falling into bid’ah by the following hadith, Muhammad (S) said, "Verily I shall proceed you to the Fountain (Al-Kawthar). Whosoever will pass by me shall drink (from it) and never get thirsty. People whom I know and who will know me will certainly come to me for drink but there will be a barrier between them and me. Then I will say, "Verily they are of me.’ It will be said, ‘You certainly do not know what bid’ah (innovation) they made after you.’ Then I shall say, "Be off those who made bid’ah after me.’ (Bukhari and Muslim)
Abdullah Ibn Masood narrated, "The Messenger of Allah (S) drew a line for us and then said, ‘This is Allah’s Straight Path.’ Then he drew lines to its right and left, then he said, ‘These are paths, upon every one of them there is a devil calling towards it.’ (Ahmad)
Then he (Muhammad (S)) recited (from the Qur’an (what means)):
"Verily this is My Straight path, so follow it and follow not (other) paths, they will separate you away from His path. This He has ordained for you that you may become pious." (Al-Anam 6:153)
We have been warned that our Muslim Ummah would be split as Prophet Muhammad (S) said:
"Those evils that befell the children of Israel shall befall my Ummah, so much that if there was one amongst them that openly committed fornication with his mother there would be one among my Ummah who would do that too. And the children of Israel split into seventy-two sects and my Ummah shall split into seventy-three sects all of them in the fire except one group." The Sahaba asked, ‘Which one is that O Messenger?’ He said, "It is the one to which I and my companions belong." (Tirmidhi)
The Sahaba’s Opinion Concerning Bid’ah
Amr ibn Yahya narrated his father told him, "We used to sit at Abdullah Ibn Masood’s house before Fajr prayer. If he exited we would follow him to the musjid. Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari then came to us and asked us, ‘Did Abu Abur-Rahman (Abdullah Ibn Masood) come out yet?’ We said, ‘No’, so he sat with us till he emerged. We all stood up when he exited. He (Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari) said, ‘O Abu Adur-Rahman, I just saw something which I did not recognize, and I did not see, all thanks to Allah, but good.’ He (Ibn Masood) said, ‘What is it?’ He (Abu Musa) said, ‘If you live you will see it. I saw in the musjid people sitting in circles waiting for the prayer. In each circle there is a leader, and they have stones in their hands. He (the leader) would say, ‘Say Takbir (Allahu Akbar) 100 times’, so they say Takbir 100 times. He (the leader) would then say, ‘Say Tahil (La Ilaha Illa Allah) 100 times’, so they say Tahil 100 times. He (the leader) would then say, ‘Say Tasbih (Subhana Allah) 100 times’, so they say Tasbih 100 times. Ibn Masood said, ‘Did you not order them to count their evil deeds, and guarantee them that none of their good deeds will be lost?’ Then he and us left till we reached one of the circles. Then he (Ibn Masood) stood next to the circle and said, ‘What are you doing?’ They said, ‘O Abu Abdur-Rahamn, (these are) stones that we count our Takbir, Tahil, tasbih, and Tah’mid (Alhumdu’lillah).’ Ibn Masood said, ‘Count your evil deeds, for I guarantee that none of your good deeds will be lost. What is the matter with you, O nation of Muhammad? How soon you come to your destruction! The companions (of Muhammad) are still many, these are his clothes still not worn out and his cookware did not break yet. By whom my soul is in His Hands, you are either following a religion better than Muhammad’s or followers of a way of evil.’ They said, ‘By Allah, O Abu Abdur-Rahman, we sought only what is good.’ Ibn Masood said, ‘Many people seek good, but they do not reach it. The Messenger told us some people who read the Qur’an will not have the Qur’an leave their throats (to their hearts). By Allah I do not know if most of you are from them.’ Then he left them. Amr Ibn Salamah said, ‘We saw most of those people fighting against us, in the battle of Nahrawan with the Khawarij.’" (Tirmidhi)
Once a man sneezed in the presence of Ibn Umar and said, "Praise be to Allah and peace be upon the Messenger.’ Ibn Umar chastised the man and said, "The Prophet has only taught us to say Alhumdu’lillah." (Tirmidhi)
Importance of Knowledge to avoid falling into Bid’ah
Knowing what is in the Qur’an and Sunnah helps us from falling into bid’ah. Muhammad (S) warned us about what will happen when we do not have knowledge. He (S) said, "Allah does not erase knowledge by erasing the knowledge from slaves. Rather He erases knowledge through the death of scholars. When He leaves (the earth) without scholars, people will take the ignorant as leaders. They will be asked and then give religious rulings without knowledge. Then they will be led, and will lead (others) astray." (Ahmad)
Allah warns us about blindly following somebody.
"When it is said to them, ‘Follow what Allah has sent down.’ They say, ‘No! We shall follow what we found our fathers following. What! Even though their fathers were void of knowledge and guidance?’ (Al-Baqarah 2:170)
Allah also says (what means):
"If you were to follow most of them on earth they will lead you away from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture, they do nothing but lie." (Al-Anam 6:116)
So whenever we do an act pertaining to Islam, we should know why we are doing that act. We should know the proofs from the Qur’an and the Sunnah to save ourselves and to better educate people.
We might find people opposing us if we turn away from customary acts and other deeds (such as Mawlid (Milad), having 786 as Bismilllah Hir Rahman Nir Raheem, saying one’s intention out loud before prayer, etc.) which people have incorporated with Islam, but we know Muhammad (S) said the following: "Islam started as something strange, and it would go back to being strange, so good tidings for the strangers." (Muslim) and in another narration, "So give glad tidings to the strangers, those who put right what the people have corrupted of my Sunnah." (Tirmidhi)
Regarding Uniting Ummah:
Abu Dharr reported that the Prophet (Pbuh) said: "Whoever departs from the united body [of the Muslim Ummah] - even a hand's leangth-has indeed removed the rope of Islam from his neck" [Realted by Abu Dawud and Ahmed]
The more inconsiderate of us try to divide the Muslim Ummah over such minor issues such as the sighting ot the moon on Eid etc..we should try our best to maintain the unity of the Ummah and the peace in our communities ...
Umar bin Khattab reported that the Prophet [Pbuh] said: "Allah will not allow my followers to aggree on a matter involving error. and [remember] that the hand [and mercy] of Allah is with the united body. Whoever seperates himself from it will be separated [from the Muslim Ummah and] enter Hell" [Related by at-Tirmidhi]
Ya Muslimeen
Ya Mu’meneen
Open up your eyes
Aim for the ultimate prize
Which is paradise
Allah’s laws
By definition has no flaw
So why do we pause?
Tell me what’s the cause
Hold your applause
Takbir!!!!!
Allahu Akbar
Our deen is not a hard religion. What do you find you are having trouble with?
Ditto.
(damn..im agreeing with DD for once...shoot me ! )
You people REALLY want to know how to reunite this Ummah?
Are you seriously keen to make an effort?
Or is this another case of Lip-service?
If you are serious about it,then i suggest you CLICK HERE,Listen to that lecture by Shaykh Hamza & Shaykh Ya'qoubi (Advice to The Seekers).
..ofcourse listening to the lecture wont bring peace to the world !
Listen to it,spread the message,and MAKE THE EFFORT. That is the biggest problem with this Ummah,LIP SERVICE. "i would like to see this and this and this and this happen.." and at the end of the day,we sit infront of the telly and curse america,curse israel,curse coke,curse mcdonalds!
Its time to get real people,if you want to reunite this ummah,go outside and make an effort.Next time you go to the mosque,dont sit in your Pakistani groups,your Indian groups,your Arab groups,..MIX around,Treat each and every brother and sister with respect,not just the ones from 'my community',because it is 'my community' that divides THE UMMAH.
And please,stop all this 'shia' 'salafi/wahabi' (yes DD,..i said stop it.. :P ) 'sufi' bashing. What is the point?
Let allah s.w.t be the judge.We are put in this world to win the pleasure of our Lord through our ACTIONS,through our GOOD DEEDS,not by attacking each other because one persons views conflicts with yours. Seriously,buy some bricks,build a bridge,and get over it.!.!
...Ahhh...i think i better go cool down... :X
Wa'salaam.
-Zubair
Last edited by SirZubair; 04-24-2006 at 09:49 PM.
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and the pharoah:rant: look what happend there they had all the power, remember this inshallah if you become a mujahid.
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