Ahmadinejad calls for UN 9/11 investigation

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ChargerCarl said:
Not really since people trust the United States. It's why treasury T-bond yields are so low, the United States government commands a great deal of respect. Their word is credible.
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I'm sorry, but i'm just amazed.
Firstly, only an idiot and a moron would actully trust the US government, seeing what they have done and continue to do, like lying to the people (taxpayers about where their money is going). Instead of helping the economy, all they did was give the bank and corporate CEOs millions to line their pockets with while the average american was left without anything, and the money the US are giving about willy nilly is from taxes.

They also made a deal with Israel to give 30 billion in an arms deal, over the next 10 years. Shouldn't this money be going towards a country with a broken economy instead of beefing up a weak cowardly nation so they could better defend themselves from the people whose home they've stolen? Yeah... let's move it on to something else. Now, regarding the Iraq war, the US said the reason of invading, back in 03.. was because Hussein may have "Nuclear" weapons, but then there were none.

Then we were told he may have biological/chemical weapons, and again nothing was turned up. so why did they lie about him having weapons?.. to justify the invasion. Well in truth he did have a stockpile, which the US sold to them (take a read here)., in the hopes that he will attack Iran, but when that didn't happened they invaded with claims that he had weapons of mass destruction. The real intentions for their invasion was the oil and to have a base in the middle-east.

This is fairly basic stuff, and if you're gonna come down here and tell us how awesome and for-the-people the United States are, then i sugest you go back and learn more history, and learn a few more big words before you come here and deal politics with some BS claims, "peer review" is getting dry. I would love for you to prove me wrong here, Carl.
Peace.
 
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You do realize that for the conspiracy theories to be true there would have to be literally thousands of people involved, and yet not a single one in the last 9 years has come forward. Nobody has even come forward to say that someone tried to recruit them and were turned down.

Not only that, but that Bush was able to put this together after being in power for less than 8 months (with help from the Jews in Israel, surely). And it was all done to get that oil money from Iraq, right? That money that is just pouring into the USA right now. That is why the US economy is doing so well.

Funny how over the years about 90% of the conspiracy theories have been proven wrong (does anyone still claim it was a missile that hit the Pentagon and not a plane?), but the conspiracy theorists still cling to the few that they have left so they can sell their videos and books.

Does anyone notice how the questions that the conspiracy theorists ask ignore the even more absurd questions? You ask how WTC7 fell, yet I have yet to hear a plausible reason as to why the government would want to blow it up in the first place. Because of the information in the government offices there? I guess they leaders of 9/11 decided it was easier to blow up the building rather than just clean up their offices? It's just absurd when looked at objectively.
 
titus said:
You do realize that for the conspiracy theories to be true there would have to be literally thousands of people involved, and yet not a single one in the last 9 years has come forward. Nobody has even come forward to say that someone tried to recruit them and were turned down.

Not only that, but that Bush was able to put this together after being in power for less than 8 months (with help from the Jews in Israel, surely). And it was all done to get that oil money from Iraq, right? That money that is just pouring into the USA right now. That is why the US economy is doing so well.

Funny how over the years about 90% of the conspiracy theories have been proven wrong (does anyone still claim it was a missile that hit the Pentagon and not a plane?), but the conspiracy theorists still cling to the few that they have left so they can sell their videos and books.

Does anyone notice how the questions that the conspiracy theorists ask ignore the even more absurd questions? You ask how WTC7 fell, yet I have yet to hear a plausible reason as to why the government would want to blow it up in the first place. Because of the information in the government offices there? I guess they leaders of 9/11 decided it was easier to blow up the building rather than just clean up their offices? It's just absurd when looked at objectively.
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Why would the US admit they were involved in 9/11? It's like a thief or a murderer telling the cops what he did.. it's never gonna happen. Furthermore, it's all over the net and very obvious why the government would want to blow up the towers you're just not reading up on it, or rather taking it in because you believe in one theory or belief given to you by your leaders through the tv or whatever. No politician should be trusted because none of them care about the people but rather power and money, that's the way it's always been and will be. Where did you pull out the figure of "90% of conspiracy theories" by the way?.. haha.. And by the way, a lot of what you call "conspiracy theories" are the truth, wake up son this is the real world, not the one in the American dream which you've been lead to believe.
 
You are giving Bush too much credit. Do you really think HE could have set that up? The guy can't even swallow a pretzel.
 
ChargerCarl said:
Not really since people trust the United States. the United States government commands a great deal of respect. Their word is credible.
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;D is this a joke?

no wonder you yanks are so retarded, you believe everything that is fed to you - unable to think outside the box
 
Boaz said:
You are giving Bush too much credit. Do you really think HE could have set that up? The guy can't even swallow a pretzel.
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Too right, bro, but he was just the puppet in the white house, you know?.. Like when the puppet master at a show uses the puppets to create the show, makes them look like the stars whne in actual fact it's him?
 
The world trusts us? I think this whole conspiracy stuff is a load of crap and I know the world hates us save for a few countries.
 
aadil77 said:
who's 'us'?...
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People misunderstand so much (not refering to you bro). It's like, yanks say "Yea, we're gonna invade them" or "we're saving their ***".. when the simple fact of the matter is they ain't doing squat. In most cases it's not the US, because that includes all the people who live there, but rather when you say "the US" or "we"/"us", people should be refering to the Government or people in control as they are the ones doing it. Lastly, you hear a lot about people being American when they have never done anything to deserve such a "title", it's the same all over the world. "We are the voice of the American public".. uh, No.
 
titus said:
You do realize that for the conspiracy theories to be true there would have to be literally thousands of people involved,
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How do you figure? how many people were involved with the Lavon affair? or how about S.S liberty? how about the bay of pigs? etc. etc.

Whenever things get tough, the queries, the tough questions that need to be answered, then many a sort of deflections are presented, and I must admit this is one of the most amusing ones there are!

all the best
 
How do you figure? how many people were involved with the Lavon affair? or how about S.S liberty? how about the bay of pigs?
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According to the conspiracy theorists you have:

The government employees that worked WTC 7.
The men involved who planted the bombs in the buildings (they were controlled implosions, and takes a few people, especially if they are doing it in secret because it takes even more people to coordinate)

Believe the missile hit the Pentagon theory? Then you have to count the thousands of witnesses who saw a plane, as well as the emergency crews that showed up that helped clean up the Penagon, as well as the people that doctored the footage that was released, as well as the FBI agents that confiscated all video surveillance of the are from the local businesses.

For those that say those planes weren't hijacked at all then you have to count the people that it would take to fly the remote controlled planes, plus the people that it would take to dispose of the real planes and all of their passengers.

You also have to include the people that it would take to make the phone calls, and create the fake phone calls from flight 93. And the people that shot down flight 93. And the phone calls from the other planes.

Depending on which conspiracy theory you believe you have to realize that it would take quite a few people to deal with the "scapegoats". If you think they were agents of the US who are now in hiding then you have to include all of the people that put these 19 men into hiding but the ones that are required to maintain that. If you don't believe they were government agents then the number of people required to ensure that they were on the plane, plus all the work that had to go into faking their pasts and the videos of them and Bin Laden that were faked in which they admit to being involved in 9/11.

And of course we know that Israel and some American Jews were involved (they are involved in everything bad in the world). You had 4000 Jews get told beforehand not to go into work. You also had a bunch of Jews in a van videotaping it and celebrating for the Israeli government, so that adds quite a few more.

Then you have to count all the people that had to fake the documents that were planted (such as the passport you always bring up as "proof" that 9/11 was faked) and the people that had to have been involved in the planting of such evidence at all of the sites (New York, Pennsylvania, Washington DC).

Since this happened only a few months into Bush's term it can be assumed that it was not his administration that started it. Nothing this complex could have been planned by a government newly in power, so Bill Clinton and certain members of his staff would have also been aware of the truth.

Sure, governments have done things in secret before. The Lavon Affair is a great example of how inept they can be at it. The SS Liberty is completely different matter as it simply is a question of who to believe. I don't see how the Bay of Pigs has anything to do with this, as the only thing kept secret was the training. The US acknowledged from the start that they were behind the Bay of Pigs invasion. There was no cover-up to deny this.
 
It doesn't take many people to coordinate a governmental job of high importance.

also, really the U.S acknowledged from the get go, that there would be a provocation to shoot down of US spy planes over Cuban air space to stimulate a cuban attack on the U.S and force other latin countries to an armed confrontation withCuba? further you admit that the U.S has no problem shooting down its own planes to further a political agenda?.. Well I thank you for that refreshing honesty!

and I think given their naivete and the massive failure then, they have decided to plan it better this time around, so the casualties are blamed on the intended party!

all the best
 
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You might say controlled explosives were in the towers. That was proven wrong. Implosions are from the bottom up, not the top down.
 
Boaz, quit spouting facts please. They get in the way of a good theory.
 
lol.. I love how you come congratulate one another when at a loss to rebut camera captured contradictions to the official story!
if that is what it takes to quell your anxiety then by all means, it is better than going the lohan course!

all the best
 
I love how you come congratulate one another when at a loss to rebut camera captured contradictions to the official story!
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Camera captured contradictions? I have yet to see any pictures that have not been explained already. The refusal of conspiracy theorists to understand or accept them is the problem.
 
titus said:
Camera captured contradictions? I have yet to see any pictures that have not been explained already. The refusal of conspiracy theorists to understand or accept them is the problem.
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Or rather the refusal of arrogant people like you to consider thinking out of the box, or consider another possibility, and look at the other side of the story before jumping to conclusion and spreading fake truth. What you and Boaz seem to spit is what the Media has been putting into our heads, and what the Government has been doing also.
 
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the problem is that the 'explanations' are only worthy of a hearty guffaw.. don't be so fond of science and then dispense of fairy tales and angry at best when questioned to the official explanation..

I am still looking for an explanation to this:

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:haha: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
You're letting your hate of the US turn you blind to the idea that Muslim people are just as capable of doing evil as Christians, Jews, and Atheists.
 
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