Can the Quran stand the test?

[Forced_In]

When Gabriel approached people in the Bible and they were frightened, Gabriel comforted them.
Luke 1
28The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you."
29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God.
[/I]

Hello,
How do you know that the angel was Gabriel ? Is he the only angel ?

 

[Grace Seeker]

Hello,
How do you know that the angel was Gabriel ? Is he the only angel ?

No, Gabriel isn't the only angel, but Gabriel is idenitified by name in Luke (vs. 1:26) as being the one to deliver the message to Mary that she is going to conceive and bear a son who is to be named Jesus. That's how Follower knows that in this case the angel being referenced by Luke is Gabriel.

 

[جوري]

LOL! Gone for a few days and this thread is being answered by everything but proof that the Quran is from GOD.

seek treatment for your outbursts!

When Gabriel approached people in the Bible and they were frightened, Gabriel comforted them.
Luke 1
28The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you."
29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God.

Irrelevant comment!

This is not the case with Mohammad- he was squeezed and pressed until he couldn't breathe.

Bukhari:V1B1N3-V6B60N478
Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me till I could not bear it any more. He asked me to read but I replied, "I do not know how to read or what shall I read?" Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, "Read in the name of your Lord who has created man from a clot. Read! Your Lord is the most generous." Then the Apostle returned from that experience; the muscles between his neck and shoulders were trembling, and his heart beating severely. He went to Khadija and cried, 'Cover me! Cover me.'

Mohammad was so upset he was going to throw himself off a cliff.

Ishaq:106 "I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and be at rest."

and irrelevant allegations-- further you can't quote Bukari and cement it by Ishaq (whomever Ishaq)is in this case, I assume you are referencing 'ibn ishaq'? which I doubt as your comment isn't even properly sourced, probably fed you by one of your bibliolaters who every few centuries write and disseminate deceitful info to quell the unwitting sheep into man worship... needless to say, I'll comment that 'Ibn Ishaq' is no scholar, Bukhari found him unreliable and at times objectionable
on the subject : http://books.google.com/books?id=TP...gqmwDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5

the book itself is written by a non-muslim, Daniel W. Brown
not that kaffirs are the expert, but at least he knows that much to be true.

but further we also see;

Ibn Isḥaq wrote several works, none of which survive. His collection of traditions about the life of Muhammad survives mainly in two sources:

• an edited copy, or recension, of his work by his student al-Bakka'i, as further edited by Ibn Hisham. Al-Bakka'i's work has perished and only Ibn Hisham's has survived, in copies. (Donner 1998, p. 132)
• an edited copy, or recension, prepared by his student Salamah ibn Fadl al-Ansari. This also has perished, and survives only in the copious extracts to be found in the volumimous historian al-Tabari's. (Donner 1998, p. 132)

Ibn Isḥaq has been accused of being a Qadari, as some have questioned his dependability.[3] Because of this, highly notable scholars including Imam Bukhari hardly ever used his narratives.[4]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq

so what do you know, you still remain incredibly under-educated.. go scurry to your master even if it be google and do a better search before your next outburst of LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

love this pic btw...

all the best

 

[GreyKode]

cement it by Ishaq (whomever Ishaq)is in this case, I assume you are referencing 'ibn ishaq'?

LOOOL, seriously he makes laugh. I almost fell off the chair sis G

 

[GreyKode]

No, Gabriel isn't the only angel, but Gabriel is idenitified by name in Luke (vs. 1:26) as being the one to deliver the message to Mary that she is going to conceive and bear a son who is to be named Jesus. That's how Follower knows that in this case the angel being referenced by Luke is Gabriel.

Hi Grace, I never knew that angel Jibreel(as) was mentioned by name in Luke.
Could you please state what the verse says(1:26).

 

[جوري]

LOOOL, seriously he makes laugh. I almost fell off the chair sis G

Every forum has a few motley fools.. we seem to have more than our share but they are all so D*** amusing

 

[Follower]

LOL!! The Pope does look ornery in that picture! I'm not catholic, never have been.

Just because Ibn Ishaq believed in free will it doesn't mean he can't be a great historian, scholar, scientist, physician. Ishaq wrote the first biography of Mohammad. Funny that Muslims accept the information furthest from the eyewitnesses.

But you do not dispute "Gabriel's" treatment of Mohammad. Where does Gabriel introduce himself to Mohammad?

forced_in -

Luke 1
26In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. 28The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you."
29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. 31You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. 32He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end."

 

[جوري]

LOL!! The Pope does look ornery in that picture! I'm not catholic, never have been.

Makes no difference what heretic sect you belong to!

Just because Ibn Ishaq believed in free will it doesn't mean he can't be a great historian, scholar, scientist, physician. Ishaq wrote the first biography of Mohammad. Funny that Muslims accept the information furthest from the eyewitnesses.

Ibn Ishaq is indeed all those but not a Muslim scholar.. me being a medical doctor doesn't make me an expert on quantum physics.. but then I think such concepts are too abstract for you to grasp.. further I'll say Ibn Ishaq's works were lost as cited above, makes all the claims you allege dubious, compounded of course by your lack of proper sourcing!

But you do not dispute "Gabriel's" treatment of Mohammad. Where does Gabriel introduce himself to Mohammad?

I'll tell you this much, You should read the Quran before writing, the Archangel is mentioned in there a few times, before you take me on!

forced_in -

Luke 1
26In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a desce

Isn't it amazing, that the Jews whom allegedly Jesus is one of, claim that he is a son of an adulterer (astghfor'Allah), are the Jewish historians wrong?


all the best

 

[Forced_In]

forced_in -

Luke 1
26In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. 28The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you."
29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. 31You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. 32He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end."

Hi,

Also, how do you know that Gabriel was sent to them in the same shape ?
IIRC there is a story in Quran about two angels coming to people and
teaching them magic in the soloman era. They had the shape of humans.
There is also some other stories about such incidents.

 

[جوري]

the whole thing is a none story.. these paganists are so desperate, that they'd take any event and assign the meaning of their choosing.

greetings, the lord is with you, Mary deeply troubled.
pressed against me until I could bear it no more..

I am really not sure what to make of it, somehow this equals to God coming down to nunciate that he is about to impregnate a woman with himself, he is to suckle, feed, go to bathroom, self immolate, self pray, self forsake, die to save us from his wrath...

a message that seems to convey no meaning whatsoever, on every level, least of which on a comparative level...

again, the hilarity of the Jesters!

 

[Grace Seeker]

How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

well, the Judge is waiting which tells us which answer is valid , it is the inerrant,miraculous word of God

This was part of a comment in another thread, but I brought it here to begin this thread because it focuses for me a question I have. I think I am fairly safe in assuming that Imam was referring to the Qur'an in his statement above.

So my question is, without getting into the circular argument where the Qur'an declares itself to be true, on what basis do the Muslims on this board believe that the Qur'an and only the Qur'an truly is the miraculous word of God?

 

['Abd-al Latif]

Re: How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

Because of the way it's written (in arabic), it's eloquence, it's style, it's depth, it's parables, it's preservation, it's miracles, it's scientific accuracy, and the fact that it contains not a single contradiction, nor is there even a scientific fact that contradicts the Qur'an. Almighty God even challenges mankind (as written in the Qur'an) to write something that is equivalent the Qur'an - if mankind are in doubt about the Qur'an - and no one within the past 1430 years has ever come close to it even though people have taken up that challenge. If Prophet Muhammad (saaws) came with anything as a proof of his Prophecy and as a miracle it would be this Qur'an.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

Re: How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

Evidence that the Qur'an is the word of Almighty God - Allah.

Praise be to Allaah.

Praise be to Allaah Who has made good dear to you; we ask Him to increase you in guidance and faith, and to guide your parents to practise Islam and adhere to its rulings.

With regard to the Quraan and the proof that it is the word of Allaah, these are specious arguments which were put forward out of stubbornness and arrogance by the first kaafirs to whom the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was sent. Allaah refuted what they said in many ways, proving their words to be false and pointing out what was wrong with it. For example:

1- This Quraan is challenge from Allaah to mankind and the jinn to produce anything like it, but they were unable to. Then He challenged them to produce only ten soorahs like it, and they were unable to. Then He challenged them to produce something like the shortest soorah in the Quraan, and they could not do it, even though those who were being challenged were the most eloquent and well-spoken of mankind, and the Quraan was revealed in their language. Yet despite that they stated that they were completely incapable of doing that. This challenge has remained down throughout history, but not one person has been able to produce anything like it. If this were the word of a human being, some people would have been able to produce something like it or close to it. There is a great deal of evidence for this challenge in the Quraan, for example, the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

Say: If the mankind and the jinn were together to produce the like of this Quraan, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another ;

[al-Israa 17:88]

Allaah says, challenging them to produce just ten soorahs:

Or they say, He (Prophet Muhammad) forged it (the Quraan). Say: Bring you then ten forged Soorah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allaah (to your help), if you speak the truth!

[Hood 11:13 interpretation of the meaning]

Allaah says, challenging them to produce just one soorah:

And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Quraan) to Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a Soorah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allaah, if you are truthful

[al-Baqarah 2:23 interpretation of the meaning]



2- No matter how much knowledge and understanding mankind attains, they will still inevitably make mistakes, forget things or fall short. If the Quraan were not the word of Allaah, there would be some contradictions and shortcomings in it, as Allaah says:

Had it been from other than Allaah, they would surely, have found therein many a contradiction

[al-Nisa 4:82 interpretation of the meaning]

But it is free from any shortcoming, error or contradiction; indeed, all of it is wisdom, mercy and justice. Whoever thinks that there is any contradiction in it, that is because of his diseased thinking and mistaken understanding; if he refers to the scholars they will explain to him what is correct and clear up the confusion for him, as Allaah says:

Verily, those who disbelieved in the Reminder (i.e. the Quraan) when it came to them (shall receive the punishment). And verily, it is an honourable well fortified respected Book (because it is Allaahs Speech, and He has protected it from corruption).

Falsehood cannot come to it from before it or behind it, (it is) sent down by the All Wise, Worthy of all praise (Allaah)”

[Fussilat 41:41-42 interpretation of the meaning]



3- Allaah has guaranteed to preserve this Quraan, and He says:

Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quraan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”

[al-Hijr 15:9 interpretation of the meaning]

Every letter of it was transmitted by thousands from thousands down throughout history, and not one letter of it was altered. If any person tried to alter anything in it, or add something or take something away, then he would be exposed straight away, because Allaah is the One Who has guaranteed to preserve the Quraan, unlike the case with other divinely-revealed Books which Allaah revealed to the people of a particular Prophet only, and not to all of mankind, so He did not guarantee to preserve them, rather He delegated their preservation to the followers of the Prophets. But they did not preserve them, rather they introduced alterations and changes which distorted most of the meanings. The Quraan, on the other hand, was revealed by Allaah to all of mankind until the end of time, because the Message of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the final message, so the Quraan is preserved in mens hearts and in written form, as is proven by the events of history. How many people have tried to change the aayahs of the Quraan and deceive the Muslims, but they were quickly exposed and their falsehood was discovered, even by Muslim children.

Another of the definitive signs that this Quraan was not produced by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) but that it came revealed by Allaah to him is the following:

4- The great miracles which the Quraan contains of legislation, rulings, stories and beliefs, which could not be produced by any created being no matter how great his intelligence and level of understanding. No matter how hard people try to promulgate laws to regulate their lives, they can never succeed so long as they are far away from the teachings of the Quraan; the further away they are, the greater their rate of failure. This is something that has been proven by the kuffaar themselves.

5- Reports of matters of the unseen, both past and future, which no human being could speak of independently, no matter how great his knowledge, especially at that time which is regarded as primitive in terms of technology and modern tools. There are many things which had not been discovered yet, and which have only been discovered after lengthy and difficult exploration with the most modern equipment, but Allaah told us about them in the Quraan, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) mentioned them, fifteen centuries ago, such as the stages of embryonic development, the nature of the oceans, etc. These things have made some kaafirs state that this could only have come from God, as in the case of the development of the embryo:

Only 60 years ago, researchers confirmed that man does not come into existence all at once, but rather he passes through stages of development one after another. Only 60 years ago, science discovered this one Quraanic fact.

Shaykh al-Zandaani said, we met an American professor, one of the greatest American scientists, whose name was Professor Marshall Johnson, and we told him that it says in the Qur’aan that man is created in stages. When he heard this, he was sitting down, but he stood up and said, Stages? We said, That was in the seventh century CE! This Book came and said, man was created in stages. He said, That is impossible, impossible We told him, Why do you say that? This Book says (interpretation of the meaning):

He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation in three veils of darkness

[al-Zumar 39:6]

What is the matter with you, that [you fear not Allaah (His punishment), and] you hope not for reward (from Allaah or you believe not in His Oneness).

While He has created you in (different) stages

[Nooh 71:14]

Then he sat back down on his chair and after a few moments he said, There are only three possibilities. The first is that Muhammad had a huge microscope through which he managed to study these things and he knew things that the people did not know, and he said these things. The second is that this happened by accident, it was a coincidence. The third is that he was a Messenger from God. We said, With regard to the first idea, that he had a microscope and other equipment, you know that a microscope needs lenses, and lenses need glass and technical expertise and other equipment. Some of this information can only be discovered with an electron microscope which needs electricity, and electricity needs knowledge which should have been acquired by an earlier generation. It is not possible for this knowledge to have been acquired all at once in a single generation; the previous generation would have had to strive hard in developing science and transmitting it to the next generation, and so on. But for this to be the work of one man, with no one coming before him or after him, either in his own land or the neighbouring lands for the Romans, Persians and Arabs were ignorant and had no such equipment for one man to have all these instruments and tools which he did not pass on to anyone else this is not possible. He said, Thats right, it would be very difficult. We said, And for it to have been an accident or coincidence, what would you think if we said that the Quraan did not mention this fact only in one verse but in several verses, and that it did not refer to it in general terms but that it gave details of every stage, saying that in the first stage such and such happens, in the second stage such and such happens, in the third stage and so on. Could that be a coincidence? When we explained to him all the details of those stages, he said, It is wrong to say that this is an accident! This is well-founded knowledge. We said, Then how do you explain it? He said, There is no explanation except that this is revelation from above! nbsp;

With regard to the many statements in the Quraan concerning the sea, some of these facts were not discovered until very recently, and many of them are still unknown. For example, these facts were discovered after hundreds of marine stations had been set up, and after images had been taken by satellites. The one who said this was Professor Schroeder, one of the greatest oceanographers in West Germany. He used to say that if science advanced, religion would have to retreat. But when he heard the translation of the verses of the Quraan, he was stunned and said, These could not be the words of a human being. And Professor Dorjaro, a professor of oceanography, told us of the latest developments on science, when he heard the aayah:

Or (the state of a disbeliever) is like the darkness in a vast deep sea, overwhelmed with waves topped by waves, topped by dark clouds, (layers of) darkness upon darkness: if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it! And he for whom Allaah has not appointed light, for him there is no light

[al-Noor 24:40 interpretation of the meaning]

He said, In the past, man could not dive to a depth of more than twenty meters because he had no special equipment. But now we can dive to the bottom of the ocean, using modern equipment, and we find intense darkness at a depth of two hundred meters. The aayah says a vast deep sea . The discoveries in the depths of the sea give us an understanding of the aayah, (layers of) darkness upon darkness. It is known that there are seven colours in the spectrum, including red, yellow, blue, green, orange, etc. When we dive down into the depths of the ocean, these colours disappear one after another, and the disappearance of each colour results in more darkness. Red disappears first, then orange, then yellow the last colour to disappear is blue, at a depth of two hundred meters. Each colour that disappears adds to the darkness until it reaches total darkness. With regard to the phrase waves topped by waves, it has been proven scientifically that there is a separation between the upper and lower parts of the ocean, and that this separation is filled with waves, as if there are waves on the edge of the dark, lower portion of the sea, which we do not see, and there are waves on the shores of the sea, which we do see. So it is as if there are waves above waves. This is a confirmed scientific fact, hence Professor Dorjaro said concerning these Quraanic verses, that this cannot be human knowledge.

(See al-Adillah al-Maadiyyah ala Wujood-Allaah by Muhammad Mitwalli al-Sharaawi)

And there are very many such examples

6- In the Quraan there are some aayahs which rebuke the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and mention some things to which Allaah drew his attention. Some of them may have been embarrassing for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). But if this Quraan had come from the Messenger of Allaah, there would have been no need for this; if he were to conceal any part of the Quraan, he would have concealed some of these verses which contained rebukes or drew his attention to certain matters which he should not have done, such as the verse in which Allaah says to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him):

But you did hide in yourself (i.e. what Allaah has already made known to you that He will give her to you in marriage) that which Allaah will make manifest, you did fear the people (i.e., their saying that Muhammad married the divorced wife of his manumitted slave) whereas Allaah had a better right that you should fear Him

[al-Ahzaab 33:37 interpretation of the meaning]

After this, can there be any doubt left in the mind of any intelligent person that this Quraan is the word of Allaah, and that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) conveyed that which was revealed to him in full?

Moreover, we tell this person, try it for yourself, read a sound translation of the Quraan and use your mind to ponder these rules and regulations. There is no doubt that any intelligent person who has the power of discernment will see a great difference between these words (of Allaah) and the words of any person on the face of the earth.

With regard to your relationship with this young man, this noble religion forbids women to mix with men for a great and wise reason. So you have to stop meeting him and break off your relationship with him until he becomes Muslim, in which case you can marry him in a proper Islamic marriage. In the answer to Question no. 1200 you will find an explanation of the rulings on a Muslim woman mixing with non-mahram men.

With regard to your love for him, this is a test from Allaah will you put your love of Allaah before your love for one of His creation, or will you put your love for this person before the love of your almighty Lord Who has forbidden such things. Note that whoever gives up something for the sake of Allaah, Allaah will compensate him with something better than that, the first of which is that you will find, in sha Allah, that Allaah will compensate you with comfort and tranquility in loving Him and striving to draw closer to Allaah by means of that which He loves; so your love for your Lord and your attachment to Him will increase, and your attachment to all of His creation will become weaker. In the answer to Question no. 10254 you will find some solutions to this problem.

With regard to the ruling on a Muslim woman marrying a kaafir man, this is haraam according to scholarly consensus, indeed it is one of the major immoral actions which Allaah has forbidden in the Quraan. In the answer to Question no. 8396 and 1825 you will find a detailed response to this question.

We advise you to be patient and to put up with difficulties, and to keep far away from everything that may cause you to do things that would anger your Lord. Note that Allaah has made this world a place of trial and testing for His believing slaves; whoever is patient and refrains from following his desries, seeking the pleasure of Allaah, Allaah will compensate him with Paradise where He will bestow upon him all kinds of delight which cannot be compared with the fleeting worldly pleasures that he sacrificed. This is in addition to the happiness and tranquility that he will find in his heart when he obeys his Lord.

Perhaps if he sees how you adhere to your religion and avoid meeting him and sitting with him despite your love for him, he will come to realize the greatness of this religion which makes its followers prepared to sacrifice all that they love in order to please their Lord, and that they hope for a great reward from their Lord for their patience in obeying Him and keeping away from that which He has forbidden and perhaps that will be the cause of his becoming Muslim.

We ask Allaah to guide him to Islam, and to make goodness easy for you, and to keep all evil away from you Ameen.

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/13804/word of god

 

[AntiKarateKid]

Re: How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

I'm still waiting for someone to produce something better in Arabic. God knows how many people want to disprove Islam yet haven't been able to do this.

1400 years and counting as king of Arab literature.:coolious:

"And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides God, if your (doubts) are true." Quran 2:23

 

[Yanal]

Re: How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

The Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) did not know how to read or write. So how do you think he would make the Quran from thin air if he doesn't know anything about reading or writing? Answer me and I will expand on my answer.

 

[glo]

Re: How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

The Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) did not know how to read or write. So how do you think he would make the Quran from thin air if he doesn't know anything about reading or writing? Answer me and I will expand on my answer.

Hi Alpha Jr

That is something I have never been able to understand.
Why would Muhammed not being able to read or write matter?
The Qu'ran was from the beginning spoken, recited ... no reading or writing involved, is there?

In a culture where oral tradition was very much the norm, and where knowledge was passed on through stories and verbal accounts, rather than books and written material, that doesn't seem such a special thing ... :?

Looking forwrd to your reply.

Peace

 

[جوري]

Re: How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

Hi Alpha Jr

That is something I have never been able to understand.
Why would Muhammed not being able to read or write matter?
The Qu'ran was from the beginning spoken, recited ... no reading or writing involved, is there?

In a culture where oral tradition was very much the norm, and where knowledge was passed on through stories and verbal accounts, rather than books and written material, that doesn't seem such a special thing ... :?

Looking forwrd to your reply.

Peace

The Quran that Muhammad brought, differs very much from the hadith that Muhammad brought also in the oral fashion.. and to this day no one has brought a chapter like the Quran (past or present) even if it be the shortest chapter composed only of three verses..


Hope that answers your Q

all the best

 

[glo]

Re: How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

Tand to this day no one has brought a chapter like the Quran (past or present) even if it be the shortest chapter composed only of three verses..

In what way has nobody been able to do this?
Perhaps I need an understanding of Arabic to appreciate this? :?

 

[جوري]

Re: How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

In what way has nobody been able to do this?

The criteria is set in many a Quran thread on the forum, I suggest you search for them

Perhaps I need an understanding of Arabic to appreciate this? :?

The Quran's message is transcendent to time and language -- every messenger brought something to their people that proved dynamic to their time.. Moses was able to do great miracles in a time of magic in Egypt that allowed the Pharaohs' sorcerers to concede that it is no magic..
Jesus brought healing at a time when medicine was prevalent in his time, yet it obviously surpassed all the medicine of the time and set him apart-- each messenger endowed with a gift through God that set them apart, Islam is for all of man-kind since its miracle is the Quran and that is not something that can die or be denied by history, all one needs to do is read to have their questions answered directly..

Now I know you ask many questions about the Quran and claim you have read it, I point for instance you attention to your thread on the pilgrimage where you alleged that it is a Muhammad practice given that it wasn't mentioned in the Quran, and I have in fact shown you about 20 quotes on pilgrimage including an entire chapter so entitled..

How can we discuss logically something you haven't read?

all the best

 

[Yanal]

Re: How does one know the Qur'an is from God?

Hello glo,do you still need my answer?