Concept of Hell

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Interesting thought. Even more interesting is I agree with you. I would not worship an evil dictator god either.



Fortunatly, Allah(swt) has not revealed himself to be an evil dictator God, and I am very comfortable to worship Him(swt) and seek to avoid the evil dictator shaitan who, does rule over hell.

he rules over hell? Really? I thought theres an Angel who rules over hell and the shaytaan will burn?

:salamext:

 

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Greetings,


Allah does dictate quite a lot though, doesn't he? Is there any religion filled with more rules, prohibitions and warnings than Islam?

Peace

Maybe these prohibitions are there to protect mankind as a whole? And why should we as humans have a right over what our Creator orders us to do?

That's the thing i dont understand. Alot of people feel that they are more powerful and have a higher right than God, so they should be able to decide what is permissible and what isn't. Whereas if the people really believed in God - they would be aware of what He has permitted for them, and what He has made haraam for them. And if they obey their Creator - they will be rewarded, whereas those who go against the commands of Allaah - they may end up in the hellfire.


Why is it that mankind fears the law of the government or their nation, but when the command of their own Creator is ordered upon them - they feel that its nothing and they feel that they have a right to object to it?


If people loved Allaah Almighty, they would love to obey Him and hate to disobey Him. If they were sincere in this - they are promised paradise. It's that simple, and thats what we believe as muslims.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

 

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he rules over hell? Really? I thought theres an Angel who rules over hell and the shaytaan will burn?

:salamext:

:salamext:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 462:

Narrated Ibn Abbas (may Allaah Almighty be pleased with him):

The Prophet of Allaah Almighty (peace be upon him) said, "On the night of my Ascent to the Heaven, I saw Moses who was a tall brown curly-haired man as if he was one of the men of Shan'awa tribe, and I saw Jesus, a man of medium height and moderate complexion inclined to the red and white colors and of lank hair. I also saw Malik, the gate-keeper of the (Hell) Fire and Ad-Dajjal amongst the signs which Allah showed me." (The Prophet then recited the Holy Verse): "So be not you in doubt of meeting him' when you met Moses during the night of Mi'raj over the heavens" (Qur'an 32:23)
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:wasalamex

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Greetings,


Allah does dictate quite a lot though, doesn't he? Is there any religion filled with more rules, prohibitions and warnings than Islam?

Peace

is ur guardian to be blamed for stopping you from goin into the jungle, for preventing you from riding a bike without your helmet, for teaching you to abide by the rules lest other people mock and abuse you, for Providing you all that is good and forbidding all that is evil.

Only pride and ignorance causes men to believe he knows what is best for him and others alike.

eace:

 

[Woodrow]

he rules over hell? Really? I thought theres an Angel who rules over hell and the shaytaan will burn?

:salamext:

My error, in using the word rule. It is true shaitan will burn, however at the present time he would desire to lead us to Hell with him. That was my concept of ruler, as a leader.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

My error, in using the word rule. It is true shaitan will burn, however at the present time he would desire to lead us to Hell with him. That was my concept of ruler, as a leader.

i see bro, jazakAllah khair 4 the clarification

:salamext:

 

[Woodrow]

Greetings,


Allah does dictate quite a lot though, doesn't he? Is there any religion filled with more rules, prohibitions and warnings than Islam?

Peace

Dosen't dictate mean: without choice?

Yes we have many rules. prohibitions and warnings. Yet, they are really no different then any of the other rules of the universe. For example: even without it being written I am quite certain the laws of biology would prevent me from holding my breath for two hours. No matter how badly I want to. The laws of our Religion actually give us more freedom then less. We have freedom to make our choices, We also have the knowledge of the cosequences of our choices.

 

[Phil12123]

Maybe these prohibitions are there to protect mankind as a whole? And why should we as humans have a right over what our Creator orders us to do?

That's the thing i dont understand. Alot of people feel that they are more powerful and have a higher right than God, so they should be able to decide what is permissible and what isn't. Whereas if the people really believed in God - they would be aware of what He has permitted for them, and what He has made haraam for them. And if they obey their Creator - they will be rewarded, whereas those who go against the commands of Allaah - they may end up in the hellfire.

Why is it that mankind fears the law of the government or their nation, but when the command of their own Creator is ordered upon them - they feel that its nothing and they feel that they have a right to object to it?

If people loved Allaah Almighty, they would love to obey Him and hate to disobey Him. If they were sincere in this - they are promised paradise. It's that simple, and thats what we believe as muslim.

Very interesting thoughts. This is the sort of thing I would like you to post in my new thread at http://www.islamicboard.com/comparat...go-heaven.html. And if you can, please quote the Quran (the precise verses there) that promise that paradise and exactly what the promises are (conditions, etc.).

Peace