Confused: Jihad and other questions

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If you travelled to Syria and fought Assad with FSA surely this can only be legitimate jihad. He is slaughtering our people for heavens sake! Invading a country which does the muslims no harm is not legitimate.

Not Anwar al-Awlak or these other uneducated Muslims who because they lead a jihadist group they think they actually know anything.

1. Other groups beside FSA are not in a legitimate Jihad?...

2. Anwar al-Awlaki (rh) doesn't know anything?

You should be careful before accusing muslims of something.
 
Prophet SAW did that? bring proof. Cuz I mean, he SAW made dua for their offspring to become pious Muslims. If The Prophet SAW killed the Taif, there would be no off spring. Thus no pious people there. But there are. So pls explain.

He didn't kill the population. He surrendered the city and captured it. This is recorded in many history and fiqh books. For example Siyar al-Kabir by Imam Muhammad (rh)
 
Greetings and peace be with you EgyptPrincess;



If you have guns, they will have guns, this would not be a good place to live.

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people,

Eric

and peace to you.

Not everyone would have a gun and plus I would pop a cap in their *** faster than they could blink :Emoji48: bam bam bam wild west style hehe
 
1. Other groups beside FSA are not in a legitimate Jihad?...

2. Anwar al-Awlaki (rh) doesn't know anything?

You should be careful before accusing muslims of something.

Tell me how he is qualified to give knowledge? What education does he have? He has absolutely basic knowledge and was an imam as a local mosque for a few years before fleeing to Yemen. I would not listen to a word this man had to say. There are much more knowledgeable people out there who have studied 15 or 20+ years every aspect of Islam.
 
I've noticed something. The way someone conveys the knowledge is very very important.

If you have 20 years of knowledge but your dawah is harsh, then that isn't good.

What does this verse mean btw:

O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion - Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allah and do not fear the blame of a critic. That is the favor of Allah ; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.

and another ayat stating you can't love kafirs, but we can marry them? (the Muslim men can marry The people of the book) ? If we can't love them, but be kind, then how does that work?

I also have some questions on slavery.

But for now:
There is Defensive Jihad
Offensive Jihad - can anyone explain that?

and I have to be bold so you can help - I find Islam harsh, but I know it isn't but I feel it is. The morals and Justice is good, but I find it a bit too harsh. (may Allah SWT forgive me) The harshness makes me a bit disconnected from Islam.

OH Allah SWT forgive me. Ameen.
And Allah SWT knows best.
 
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I've noticed something. The way someone conveys the knowledge is very very important.

If you have 20 years of knowledge but your dawah is harsh, then that isn't good.

What does this verse mean btw:

O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion - Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allah and do not fear the blame of a critic. That is the favor of Allah ; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.

and another ayat stating you can't love kafirs, but we can marry them? (the Muslim men can marry The people of the book) ? If we can't love them, but be kind, then how does that work?

I also have some questions on slavery.

But for now:
There is Defensive Jihad
Offensive Jihad - can anyone explain that?

and I have to be bold so you can help - I find Islam harsh, but I know it isn't but I feel it is. The morals and Justice is good, but I find it a bit too harsh. (may Allah SWT forgive me) The harshness makes me a bit disconnected from Islam.

OH Allah SWT forgive me. Ameen.
And Allah SWT knows best.

The first verse is talking about the muslims who leave the religion they will be replaced with reverts to islam who love islam and dont care about people criticising them or mocking them. They will be firm on the deen and surpass those who where born into islam and not taking it seriously (there was more to it but i have to find my notes on that verse in sha Allah)

Men and women are not allowed to marry kaffir.
Men are allowed to marry jewish or Christian women who are practising their faith providing they are open minded to accept islam at a later date or take an oath to revert at a later stage once they understand it more (as these are people of the book)
Women are only allowed to marry muslim men as the children are brought up upon the fathers relgion not the womens.

Slavery is a topic which definitely has to be explained by someone else as i dont know much on it, i know a bit but not enough to talk on it and i had my reservations on this topic aswell, i still had some doubt that haven't been cleared up but i just know that Allah is just and would never allow an injustice to go unanswered on thr day of judgement.

What do you mean by offensive jihad ?
 
Greetings and peace be with you Serinity;

Jihad, al wala wal bara, befriending kuffar, living with them, and something like that. And some more.

Islam is a Merciful religion, and says to be compassionate etc. But I am confused cuz we have to show al wara wal bara, (hate and love for Allah SWT)

What is allowed, etc. Some ayats, and 2 fatwas that make me go "what?" One fatwa seems to express "no contact with kuffar!" the other "show compassion, etc. Islam is merciful," etc.

The following is how I have understood Jihad.........

Greater Jihad the personal spiritual struggle or effort of every Muslim to follow the teachings of Allah (God) in their own lives e.g. overcoming things such as anger greed, pride and hatred; forgiving someone who has hurt them; working for social justice.
Lesser Jihad the struggle to build a good Muslim society; also Holy War (the struggle to defend against oppression; with force if necessary).

The greater Jihad seems to be how you struggle to find peace, in angry situations, and you cannot find peace if your fists are clenched, or you have a weapon in your hand.

In the spirit of searching for justice for all people,

Eric
 
Thanks and may Allah SWT reward you sister for being patient with me. Ameen.

Defensive Jihad is fighting back when an enemy fights you. Here you can fight back to your best ability - but no transgression cuz Allah SWT does not love transgressors (afaik) - Am I right in this one?

For example if a disbeliever / kafir comes to me and shouts "Terrorists!" it would not be wise for me to attack him, cuz I'd just fuel the fire and fall into his games and traps.

Islam tells us to use wisdom - if fighting is best and there is no other way - then ok - but avoid fighting as much as possible righT? And use wisdom!

For the Offensive Jihad, Idk much, but my logic says that it is when we initate the fighting or want to expand our territory.

If we want to expand territory, do we invade other countries? Or what?

This is what I got:

The Islamic empire expands,
A) the nations that attack us when they are defeated lose their land
B) when the Muslim empire fights for expansion, the nonmuslim nations that are incorporated are given the option to retain their religion and most of their laws as long as they pay the taxes and promise alliance,
C) dawah, people saw the Muslims, their success, and their character, they became Muslim and joined the khalifa
 
Thanks and may Allah SWT reward you sister for being patient with me. Ameen.

Defensive Jihad is fighting back when an enemy fights you. Here you can fight back to your best ability - but no transgression cuz Allah SWT does not love transgressors (afaik) - Am I right in this one?

For example if a disbeliever / kafir comes to me and shouts "Terrorists!" it would not be wise for me to attack him, cuz I'd just fuel the fire and fall into his games and traps.

Islam tells us to use wisdom - if fighting is best and there is no other way - then ok - but avoid fighting as much as possible righT? And use wisdom!

For the Offensive Jihad, Idk much, but my logic says that it is when we initate the fighting or want to expand our territory.

If we want to expand territory, do we invade other countries? Or what?

This is what I got:

The Islamic empire expands,
A) the nations that attack us when they are defeated lose their land
B) when the Muslim empire fights for expansion, the nonmuslim nations that are incorporated are given the option to retain their religion and most of their laws as long as they pay the taxes and promise alliance,
C) dawah, people saw the Muslims, their success, and their character, they became Muslim and joined the khalifa

Ameen..
May Allah guide you to the truth and ease your heart of any conflictions you may have, whilst strengthening your emaan..Ameen

Your welcome brother, we all go through these things, but most dont ask about it they just let it fester in their minds then shaytan comes and attacks your own faith through this way.

Yes you are absolutely right for defence jihad Alhamdulilah.
We must always use common sense in every situation wether is it wise to ignore, or engage with them.
We should never transgress the limits Allah has laid out for us.
If someone attacks you physically you have every right to defend yourself untill he stops, then you stop.
If a person is trying to kill you and you have no other option but to kill them in order to defend yourself of your family then you are allowed to kill them (but this must be the absolute last possible scenario)
If they are insulting you then you have the option to either ignore or engage in a debate with words (but remember to not insult them just defend islam)

I honestly dont know much on the offensive jihad, wether its actually a valid form of jihad....somebody with more knowledge than me on this area would have to answer that one
 
you see sister, I rather ask NOW and cleanse myself from ALL my doubts, than lie down whilst dying and shaytaan coming to me with all the doubts.. I don't want to die in disbelief because of these doubts.

May Allah SWT cleanse me from all the doubts I have and make me love Him SWT, and make me stronger because of these challenges.

Afaik:

For Jihad to be issued a scholarly consensus has to be made, no man on their own can initate Jihad. Is that forbidden? And btw, is it forbidden in Jihad to kill mercilessly?

I read the 10 rules (or more?)

Has Allah forbidden to kill life unnecessarily? (I know.. Yes. But I want ease lol)
 
Only speak when your words are more beautiful than silence.
As the Prophet (pbuh) said, “Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should either speak good things or remain silent.” [Bukhari & Muslim]

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you see sister, I rather ask NOW and cleanse myself from ALL my doubts, than lie down whilst dying and shaytaan coming to me with all the doubts.. I don't want to die in disbelief because of these doubts.

May Allah SWT cleanse me from all the doubts I have and make me love Him SWT, and make me stronger because of these challenges.

Afaik:

For Jihad to be issued a scholarly consensus has to be made, no man on their own can initate Jihad. Is that forbidden? And btw, is it forbidden in Jihad to kill mercilessly?

I read the 10 rules (or more?)

Has Allah forbidden to kill life unnecessarily? (I know.. Yes. But I want ease lol)

Ameen.

Brother i have to laugh lol honestly you need to stay away from "is" propaganda as alot of the questions your asking stem from those who are upon what they are upon and people easily fall into it with the whole "west are the enemies" maybe stay away from their nasheeds aswell yea ? Lol

Im not sure wether it is forbidden for a laymen to make the call to jihad but the scholars have to as they can asses the situation in more knowledgeable sense, they can determine whether jihad is necessary or if people are jumping to conclusion to quickly and listning to their emotions over what Allah dictactes to us.
Lets imagine there are 2 tribes, and one man from a tribe does something to upset the other by mistake/accident wether a fight or such, but the man believes it was done with malicious intent and intended to upset them and this man has now declared jihad upon the other tribe as he is thinking with emotions and not clearly (imagine how out of control it would be without scholarly advice from people who must make judgements and decisions without letting emotions come into play)

Im not sure what you mean by killing mercilessly if you mean torture as no thats not allowed.
But when in war you do anything to defend yourself and defend your brothers in arms and the people who cannot defend themselves

Yes Allah has forbidden us to kill unnecessarily, people & animals are included in this,

"Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors." [5:32]
 
you see sister, I rather ask NOW and cleanse myself from ALL my doubts, than lie down whilst dying and shaytaan coming to me with all the doubts.. I don't want to die in disbelief because of these doubts.

May Allah SWT cleanse me from all the doubts I have and make me love Him SWT, and make me stronger because of these challenges.

Afaik:

For Jihad to be issued a scholarly consensus has to be made, no man on their own can initate Jihad. Is that forbidden? And btw, is it forbidden in Jihad to kill mercilessly?

I read the 10 rules (or more?)

Has Allah forbidden to kill life unnecessarily? (I know.. Yes. But I want ease lol)

You're having doubts about Islam? o.0 forgive me if I read wrong.

It is illegal for a person other than the caliphate or the leader of a "state" to initiate jihad. Of course jihad comes in many forms and it does not have to be violent. did you watch the videos I posted?

Also it is wrong to kill mercilessly and you should not disfigure the body.

Watch this video if you're unsure.

 
I think I have been over thinking Jihad..

One bold question:

Does The Quran encourage discrimination? Like Muslims vs. Kafirs. ?

When I see around the world, I just see confusion.

Is it ok for me to be friends (not close) but friends with kuffar? (1 fatwa says being friends with a kafir (to my understanding) is like kufr..)

I just want to act like myself. Whether someone is a bad guy or a good guy, I will manage. Tbh.....

I constantly feel the wrath of Allah SWT if I ever think good of kafirs or sorry for them. (which isn't normal yeah? Allah SWT doesn't say to be all heartless to kuffar right? There are some ayats that make it seem like that..) te

Not all kafirs are evil either, they may have evil inside of them.. But I feel if we become harsh with them, we are just helping shaytaan in turning them away from Islam, right?

I mean. If I attack the PERSON for being a kafir, that ain't helping, right? Shaytaan's plan is to mislead mankind. IF I was to become judgmental and go "oh kuffar, you filth" they'd think "why would I want to be in a religion that makes people like that?"

Soo.. WHat does Allah SWT want? I mean. I am probably a munaafiq at this point.

Did the Prophet SAW like Jihad (physical fighting ) cause I read a hadith which states that the Shaheed would like to go back to this world to be killed again and again for the Honour and reward they get from Allah SWT.
 
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I think I have been over thinking Jihad..

One bold question:

Does The Quran encourage discrimination? Like Muslims vs. Kafirs. ?

When I see around the world, I just see confusion.

Is it ok for me to be friends (not close) but friends with kuffar? (1 fatwa says being friends with a kafir (to my understanding) is like kufr..)

I just want to act like myself. Whether someone is a bad guy or a good guy, I will manage. Tbh.....

I constantly feel the wrath of Allah SWT if I ever think good of kafirs or sorry for them. (which isn't normal yeah? Allah SWT doesn't say to be all heartless to kuffar right? There are some ayats that make it seem like that..) te

Not all kafirs are evil either, they may have evil inside of them.. But I feel if we become harsh with them, we are just helping shaytaan in turning them away from Islam, right?

I mean. If I attack the PERSON for being a kafir, that ain't helping, right? Shaytaan's plan is to mislead mankind. IF I was to become judgmental and go "oh kuffar, you filth" they'd think "why would I want to be in a religion that makes people like that?"

Soo.. WHat does Allah SWT want? I mean. I am probably a munaafiq at this point.

Consider the following brother Serinity.

You are about to enter a building and a kufr opens the door and holds it open for you, do you be a decent human being and say thank you? Of course... this is not being friends.

You're at work and a kufr colleague asks you for help on his PC or something. You go over and help him fix his problem. This is being a decent person, this is not being friends.

A kufr invites you to go bowling with the colleagues after work. Do you go? You should not go. Now you're becoming friends with them and also you may fall into temptation, I have made this mistake brother.. as you very well know.

Too many Muslims and non muslims want to drive a wedge between the believers and the non believers so we will fight each other. This surely will only benefit shaytan?

Now consider the following. A kufr sees you at the park, I dunno, perhaps you're driving your RC car or something. He stops and asks you about it and you have a chat. Again this is not being friends... Then he wonders about Islam and asks you about it, by allowing him to speak with you, you've opened up a pathway for his curiosity into Islam. Allah has given you this opportunity to turn someone to Islam. Whereas if you just ignored him he may not ever become Muslim.

Think about it logically, what turns kufr to Islam? Hate? Violence? Arrogance? Impatience? No... it is the friendly, open, welcoming, patient Muslims which make people think about the religion. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's probably a duck. In other words if all the kufr see is hate and arrogance towards them from Muslims this will obviously cause those potential Muslims to immediately get a negative response to Islam because they think this is what Islam teaches.

Imagine on the day of judgement, Allah swt says to you "I gave you 10 opportunities to open the door for Islam to someone, why did you reject those opportunities?" Even if you talk to a kufr about Islam and he laughs in your face and swears at you and calls you whatever name. At least you can hold in your heart that you tried. Subhanallah surely Allah will acknowledge your intentions?
 
Consider the following brother Serinity.

You are about to enter a building and a kufr opens the door and holds it open for you, do you be a decent human being and say thank you? Of course... this is not being friends.

You're at work and a kufr colleague asks you for help on his PC or something. You go over and help him fix his problem. This is being a decent person, this is not being friends.

A kufr invites you to go bowling with the colleagues after work. Do you go? You should not go. Now you're becoming friends with them and also you may fall into temptation, I have made this mistake brother.. as you very well know.

Too many Muslims and non muslims want to drive a wedge between the believers and the non believers so we will fight each other. This surely will only benefit shaytan?

Now consider the following. A kufr sees you at the park, I dunno, perhaps you're driving your RC car or something. He stops and asks you about it and you have a chat. Again this is not being friends... Then he wonders about Islam and asks you about it, by allowing him to speak with you, you've opened up a pathway for his curiosity into Islam. Allah has given you this opportunity to turn someone to Islam. Whereas if you just ignored him he may not ever become Muslim.

Think about it logically, what turns kufr to Islam? Hate? Violence? Arrogance? Impatience? No... it is the friendly, open, welcoming, patient Muslims which make people think about the religion. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's probably a duck. In other words if all the kufr see is hate and arrogance towards them from Muslims this will obviously cause those potential Muslims to immediately get a negative response to Islam because they think this is what Islam teaches.

Imagine on the day of judgement, Allah swt says to you "I gave you 10 opportunities to open the door for Islam to someone, why did you reject those opportunities?" Even if you talk to a kufr about Islam and he laughs in your face and swears at you and calls you whatever name. At least you can hold in your heart that you tried. Subhanallah surely Allah will acknowledge your intentions?

True.. And I ask Allah SWT to punish me for whatever evil I've done and injustice.. I want to see justice that badly.

Anyways, yeah you are right. If a kafir came and said "will you help me with some math?" I'd say "sure, I can try" or something.

Now Islam tells us to be kind to both muslims and kafirs. But lets say there is a kafir who attacks you mocks you, etc. What do you do? Distance yourself from him. Do you still show good manners? IDk. Probably not cuz there is an ayat saying only show kindness to those who don't attack us.

But should we be the ones who show good character and repel evil with what is better? Doesn't Allah SWT like justice, righteousness and stuff like that?

If a kafir came and said "you terrorists are soo.. blablabla" should I go "you little... I will show you!" no, I don't.

OR if a kafir mocks me etc. Do I become angry? No. But if he mocks Islam, yes. But should I repress my anger? Probably yeah. Should I still show mercy? Perhaps the mercy I show may overshine the darkness in his heart?

I feel harshness upon harshness, fire upon fire, and there is more fire..no progress. Allah SWT says to repel evil with good, right?

So if someone comes to you, etc. But then the verse comes up saying you can only be kind to those who do NOT attack us.. So what about those who do? we can't be kind to them.

Idk, I am confused.
 
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Thiss what sister Egypt said

And yes you can be friends but you need to draw the line at some point, as in not socialising with them (plural) outside of work or college or whatever, if its going out to eat then thats fine.(but you choose the restaurant)
When i say socialising i mean where they will insist on free mixing, alcohol haram food etc etc
You can give advice to them, but you do not take it from them especially spiritual advice which should only be taken from a muslim.
The reason is that if you spend so much time with them and not muslims, it will impact on your emaan at some point, and we need muslims around us to turn to when our emaan is low or to just be around and talk about Allah.
Plus what do you talk about when your with them ? Nothing of benifit to your soul it will always (mostly) be idle chit chat
( i know from experience, i had no choice but to leave my kuffar friends behind as it impacted on my deen in such a negative way astagfirllah, and you could never have a convo that actually had some meaning)
(If these kuffar friends are open minded then by all means be friendly to them even bring them around the brothers have a nice time with them be inviting to islam and in sha Allah through these types of behaviors their hearts open to islam and your friends become muslim and you wont have to worry about this "being friends with kuff stuff" [emoji4]
 
True.. And I ask Allah SWT to punish me for whatever evil I've done and injustice.. I want to see justice that badly.

Anyways, yeah you are right. If a kafir came and said "will you help me with some math?" I'd say "sure, I can try" or something.

Now Islam tells us to be kind to both muslims and kafirs. But lets say there is a kafir who attacks you mocks you, etc. What do you do? Distance yourself from him. Do you still show good manners? IDk. Probably not cuz there is an ayat saying only show kindness to those who don't attack us.

But should we be the ones who show good character and repel evil with what is better? Doesn't Allah SWT like justice, righteousness and stuff like that?

If a kafir came and said "you terrorists are soo.. blablabla" should I go "you little... I will show you!" no, I don't.

OR if a kafir mocks me etc. Do I become angry? No. But if he mocks Islam, yes. But should I repress my anger? Probably yeah. Should I still show mercy? Perhaps the mercy I show may overshine the darkness in his heart?

I feel harshness upon harshness, fire upon fire, and there is more fire..no progress. Allah SWT says to repel evil with good, right?

So if someone comes to you, etc. But then the verse comes up saying you can only be kind to those who do NOT attack us.. So what about those who do? we can't be kind to them.

Idk, I am confused.

Brother your reading so much into this.

You have to be able to judge the situation and use common sense for each and every situation..

If a kuffar insults you, sometimes its best to just let them waffle on and ignore them, they are the ones gaining Allahs wrath by insulting a muslim..

If a kuffar insults your religion, then by your choice you can either ignore, or you can defend islam by explaining to them where they are wrong and how they are wrong.... some people are genuinely ignorant and do not understand islam and fear the unknown, once you explain it to them they then ask more questions and are very interested and become very friendly (happend to me)

If somebody is threatning you and insulting you at the same time and you feel they will carry out the threat and assult you, then self defence is needed, (sometimes they do need a beat down to realise they cannot act this way) sometimes Allah punishes people through other peoples hands

But you as a person have to be able to judge each situation individually

Tbh i have the worst temper and not even i can contain myself and I know its wrong then i feel bad sometimes after i lash out.
But you must remember as soon as you step outside you are representing islam so you have to show islam in a good light, by your mouth and actions and character
 
True.. And I ask Allah SWT to punish me for whatever evil I've done and injustice.. I want to see justice that badly.

Anyways, yeah you are right. If a kafir came and said "will you help me with some math?" I'd say "sure, I can try" or something.

Now Islam tells us to be kind to both muslims and kafirs. But lets say there is a kafir who attacks you mocks you, etc. What do you do? Distance yourself from him. Do you still show good manners? IDk. Probably not cuz there is an ayat saying only show kindness to those who don't attack us.

But should we be the ones who show good character and repel evil with what is better? Doesn't Allah SWT like justice, righteousness and stuff like that?

If a kafir came and said "you terrorists are soo.. blablabla" should I go "you little... I will show you!" no, I don't.

OR if a kafir mocks me etc. Do I become angry? No. But if he mocks Islam, yes. But should I repress my anger? Probably yeah. Should I still show mercy? Perhaps the mercy I show may overshine the darkness in his heart?

I feel harshness upon harshness, fire upon fire, and there is more fire..no progress. Allah SWT says to repel evil with good, right?

So if someone comes to you, etc. But then the verse comes up saying you can only be kind to those who do NOT attack us.. So what about those who do? we can't be kind to them.

Idk, I am confused.

If a kufr insults Islam he is insulting Allah swt and he will face the harshest of punishments of which we cannot imagine. Of course when someone insults us personally or our lord, we will become angry but there is greater progress in dialogue than in violence.

I can't say I have had much experience with insults, I once got called a rag head lol but so what? I laugh it off. It is me who will be having the last laugh when they are dropped into Jahannam. When I was called a rag head I think I said to him "pee off you dirty chav" lol. Should I have said this? I don't know, I am just letting him know that I am not going to stand by and be insulted. So personally for me defend yourself with words by all means but try to keep them halal.

Anger is a very tough emotion to control and Inshallah we will be rewarded every time we suppress our anger. If someone grabs your thobe or hijab then you have every right to physically defend yourself and I would encourage everyone here to do just that. If someone "attacks" you, verbally then of course you don't have to be kind to them lol... but you also don't have to harm them.

Are you naturally a violent person? Take up boxing, then you can punch all the kufr that you want ;D just don't make friends with them. Be [friendly] to them, but don't become [friends] with them.

To be honest I'm really not the best person to be helping you brother. I have many of my own anger problems and things to sort out. Inshallah you understand the message I am trying to convey in my advice. Also try to watch more Islamic videos on peace and forgiveness rather than fighting and wars...
 
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