Danes arrest three in plot to kill Mohammed cartoonist

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Why don't we hear more screaming and ranting when some Muslims choose to butcher our faith! When they make Islam and Muslims look like intolerant, uneducated barbarians!? Where is THAT outrage??!! Does any Muslim truly believe Prophet Muhammed, pbuh, would encourage that and behave that way?

Agreed !

although i must say, i hope the ones who contribute to the drawings are either guided or destroyed.


There im done!

 

[jzcasejz]

although i must say, i hope the ones who contribute to the drawings are either guided or destroyed.

^ Aameen. May Allaah (SWT) reward you Brother, instead of coming with the same type of replies this thread has seen a million times already, you were the first to say this. Thank you!

 

[*Hana*]

Agreed !

although i must say, i hope the ones who contribute to the drawings are either guided or destroyed.


There im done!

Absolutely agree with you, and either way, it will be as Allah, swt, wills, not as we will. How can we possibly know if the person attacked today would not have been our brother/sister tomorrow.

Excellent point, brother!

Wasalam,
Hana

 

[Suomipoika]

Talking is a whole another thing, but pictures speak differently.

If a picture of your mother screwing a man was printed on the front page of newspaper wouldnt you do something about it? If not then there is something wrong with you.

Concidering it was about my mother, I dont think Id have to do anything besides show support to her, she isnt exactly incapable of defending herself.

When have anyone insultued your daughters, sisters and mothers for dressing differently? It is in fact people like you have have insulted Islam and how muslim woman dress and in return some muslims critisize the way that woman dress in the west, but insult? Naah

What people find insulting varies from person to person.

After lurking here for over a year, the one thing that bothers me most are the negative stereotypes about decadent west and western women that are repeated over and over again, sometimes more, and sometimes less obvious. I personally find many of them to be very offensive and insulting.

Its like the danish cartoons, the original publisher see it as valid criticism of islam, while quite a few muslims seem to view it as grave insult.

 

[Suomipoika]

No benefit has come from this alleged point of freedom of speech.

Im not really sure I agree there with you.

I'm glad that those who were plotting to kill the cartoonist were arrested - we should rise above the taunts and show the true meanings of Islam.

Because I see this sentiment as pretty big benefit.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

They keep talking about freedom of speech yet forgetting the blasphemy part that is also a part of the danish law system.

True, blasphemy is a punishable offence in Denamark however no one was found guilty of it for over 70 years.

 

[krypton6]

Its like the danish cartoons, the original publisher see it as valid criticism of islam, while quite a few muslims seem to view it as grave insult.

If it is a criticism that he made to point out that freedom of speech is important then he achieved what he wanted, but why do it again after more than a year? 17 newspapers in Denmark have printed the pictures on the frontpage, is that also criticism?

In Denmark you have freedom of speech but a just as important part of their law system is the blasphemy part! These cartoons brake their own laws yet they deffend it with others.

If a picture of my mother screwing a man was printed on the front page of a global newspaper I would take law into my own hands and deal with the printer myself, reality is though that my mother is nothing compared to the prophet....

What is the point of these cartoons! To make fun of the dearest person in every muslims life! A person deliberately creating conflicts and infernos between the west and the east while at the same time hurting over a billion muslims, should in my opinion be stopped, and if the government is not going to stop him someone or something else will. The question is how will he be stopped?

 

[krypton6]

True, blasphemy is a punishable offence in Denamark however no one was found guilty of it for over 70 years.

Christians and Jews have never bin insulted in Denmark, only muslims have.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Christians and Jews have never bin insulted in Denmark, only muslims have.

the only person found guilty of blashemy in Denamark was charged of anti-semitism.
Why is it mostly muslims who are insulted? Perhaps it is because they cause a lot of trouble? Or is it because they are the only ones to comit faith-related crimes?
They're immigrants, immigrants are a great insult material, they're different and above all, a lot of them seem to refuse to integrate into the danish society..

 

[abdullah_001]

I pray Inshallah that that cartoonist gets his place in jahannam for doing what he did.

 

[Cognescenti]

I am pretty sure the Danes see freedom of speech as a core value. They are a secular country. Adherence to ideas of liberty are a unifying, communal understanding for their nation in just the same way that Muslims revere the Prophet.

That may seem silly to you all but clearly something has their hackels up if the cartoon is being republished.

If you want McCain to get elected...keep it up. If you want the Danes to purposely taunt you, keep it up. If you want right wing parties to come to power in France, keep it up. If you want controls over Muslims in europe keep it up. If you want to unite the West like they have never been united..keep it up.

Send some nutbar to kill that Dutch filmaker..that should help. Dont forget the Pope and Rushide (in no particular order)

 

[krypton6]

the only person found guilty of blashemy in Denamark was charged of anti-semitism.

Yeah back in world war 2!?

Why is it mostly muslims who are insulted? Perhaps it is because they cause a lot of trouble? Or is it because they are the only ones to comit faith-related crimes?

They're immigrants, immigrants are a great insult material, they're different and above all, a lot of them seem to refuse to integrate into the danish society..

No because muslims are different! Most "christians" barely know anything about the Bible and the same with Jews while most muslims know their religion quite well. They cannot accept the Hijab that muslim woman wear!
They cannot accept the fact that muslim woman do not wear western clothes! They cannot accept the fact that muslim men do not handshake with woman! They cannot accept the fact that muslims only eat Halal meat, and the fact that they do not drink alcohol! And I could go on for ever

In order for muslims to be accepted by the danish they have to give up on their religion, muslims refuse to do so! If they cannot accept the fact that muslims will not give up on their religion, they might aswell just ban muslims from Denmark but they wont because they are afraid.

And besides that, 1/3-4 of Denmark are fascists so no wonder they hate muslims so much.

 

[MTAFFI]

If it is a criticism that he made to point out that freedom of speech is important then he achieved what he wanted, but why do it again after more than a year? 17 newspapers in Denmark have printed the pictures on the frontpage, is that also criticism?

Who cares, Allah (swt) will deal with them accordingly

In Denmark you have freedom of speech but a just as important part of their law system is the blasphemy part! These cartoons brake their own laws yet they deffend it with others.

Who are you to judge according to Danish laws?

If a picture of my mother screwing a man was printed on the front page of a global newspaper I would take law into my own hands and deal with the printer myself, reality is though that my mother is nothing compared to the prophet....

The continued "screwing mother" phrase suggests some freudian issues.... Pornography is a different issue anyways

What is the point of these cartoons! To make fun of the dearest person in every muslims life! A person deliberately creating conflicts and infernos between the west and the east while at the same time hurting over a billion muslims, should in my opinion be stopped, and if the government is not going to stop him someone or something else will. The question is how will he be stopped?

The point of them is to get Muslim fired up and to react in a way to justify their beliefs... Last time many Muslims fell into this trap... Get me once, shame on you, get me twice shame on me

 

[aamirsaab]

Im not really sure I agree there with you.



Because I see this sentiment as pretty big benefit.

Rising above a taunt is not a benefit of freedom of speech. It is a reaction. A benefit would be say a decrease in injustice. Since, however, you yourself posted that many danish people have been slandered as a result of the cartoons being published, it is quite clear that that particular act of freedom of speech did not benefit in anyway - the only ones who have benefited psychosocially at least, are those who shout out paki or various other racist remarks, because now they have a get-out card: ''freedom of speech''.
Pssha, freedom to act like tosser more like.

Hahaha there's some irony!

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Yeah back in world war 2!?



No because muslims are different! Most "christians" barely know anything about the Bible and the same with Jews while most muslims know their religion quite well. They cannot accept the Hijab that muslim woman wear!
They cannot accept the fact that muslim woman do not wear western clothes! They cannot accept the fact that muslim men do not handshake with woman! They cannot accept the fact that muslims only eat Halal meat, and the fact that they do not drink alcohol! And I could go on for ever

In order for muslims to be accepted by the danish they have to give up on their religion, muslims refuse to do so! If they cannot accept the fact that muslims will not give up on their religion, they might aswell just ban muslims from Denmark but they wont because they are afraid.

And besides that, 1/3-4 of Denmark are fascists so no wonder they hate muslims so much.

I guess religious muslims shouldn't have coe at the first place as they are bound to have problems with adapting to and living in the danish society... Westerners cannot immigrate into a muslim country and expect the socitey to fully accept their lifestyle and let them countinue with their western lives, they have to adapt, at least in public, and so should muslims.

Hijab, halal meat etc are not a problem. It's the protets that cause trouble. and threats, hate speech towards certain groups of people, violence towards apostates - general nonacceptance of certain rights and liberties that are taken for granted in the west.

 

[Moon*Light]

Instead of trying to work this out with Muslims to prevent such behavior they are printing some of the cartoons again!

Both sides are going about this the wrong way.

 

[MTAFFI]

To me the whole issue is really goofy.. I live in the South, I have lived in the south near almost all my life, I talk southern, and I live southern... Many people in my own country like to make fun of southerners by talking about incest, stupidity, rednecks, and the list goes on. All the southerners could go and act against those who make the remarks but no one does, because like me many realize, it is just the way we talk that sets us apart. I have a very good education, and have done much more in my short life than most people do that are twice my age, so I sit back and laugh at those who poke their fun, they are ignorant. The same could be done with the Danes, sit back and laugh at their ignorance in this situation. We all know that those who insult Allah and his prophets (peace be upon them all) have a special place in the hereafter.

 

[abdullah_001]

I am pretty sure the Danes see freedom of speech as a core value. They are a secular country. Adherence to ideas of liberty are a unifying, communal understanding for their nation in just the same way that Muslims revere the Prophet.

That may seem silly to you all but clearly something has their hackels up if the cartoon is being republished.

If you want McCain to get elected...keep it up. If you want the Danes to purposely taunt you, keep it up. If you want right wing parties to come to power in France, keep it up. If you want controls over Muslims in europe keep it up. If you want to unite the West like they have never been united..keep it up.

Send some nutbar to kill that Dutch filmaker..that should help. Dont forget the Pope and Rushide (in no particular order)

If liberty was a unifying and communal idea, you would not have had a danish person in those three who plotted to kill the cartoonist. Your "liberty" is actually causing disharmony and disunity amongst people, so then would you stand up for any cause which causes disharmony and disunity between people?

 

[NoWingedAngel]

It's definitely good they were arrested, if the allegations are true. Like that nutter who murdered Theo Van Gogh.

Just because somebody says something offensive doesn't give anyone else, whether they're Muslim or non-Muslim, the right to harm or kill them. That's just... insanity.

Would the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) have reacted so? I think not.

EDIT: I thought it would be prudent to add a poll. Whoo-hoo.

Indeed. I find it amazing that many Muslims feel that the Prophet is so accursed by Allah, that they feel they have to defend his honor and name with barbarism, even though he himself did not, as seen here:

One old woman made a habit of throwing rubbish on Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) whenever he passed from her house. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had to pass that house daily on the way to the mosque. Even when the old woman threw rubbish on him, he would pass silently without showing any anger or annoyance. This was a regular, daily event.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Biography: Kindness and Forgiveness

One day when Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was passing by the woman was not there to throw the rubbish. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) stopped and asked the neighbor about her well-being. The neighbor informed the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that the woman was sick on bed. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) politely asked permission to visit the woman. When allowed he entered the house, the woman thought that he had come there to take his revenge when she was unable to defend herself because of sickness. But the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) assured her that he had come to her, not to take any revenge, but to see her and to look after her needs, as it was the command of Allah that if any one is sick, a Muslim should visit him and should help him if his help is needed.

The old woman was greatly moved by this kindness and love of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). By the example of greatness of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), she understood that he was truly the Prophet of Allah and Islam was the true religion. She accepted Islam at once.

Now, to all who would possibly condone the behavior of the original article (regardless of whether true or not), do you also think the woman in this story should be murdered?

Honestly, folks. I think many parts of Islam are stunningly beautiful, but were I to convert, I would not be terrified of non-Muslims.

I'd be terrified of other Muslims.

 

[truemuslim]

hell yeah its kickass...lol...im kiddin..