Do I have to have my male children circumcised?

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primate said:
Yes masha'Allah, FGM has been denounced as a terrible practice, thankfully (even though it was put forward in the Sunnah). One can only hope that MGM is soon also denounced as a terrible practice (even though that too has been put forward in the Sunnah). Only then will Muslim males be able to live truly in the body that is natural and that Allah (swt) created perfectly.
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You don't have male children! I have doubts that you're Muslim. I also have doubts that you have any interest reading anything that opposed your personal convictions fickle and inconsistent as they're.. Did you not already decide not to reply to me? It took me three times to post the same statement with regard to female 'mutilation' for it to register with you?
Will you pretend to be a Jew tomorrow and go into their website hoping to sway their beliefs with pseudo science and questionable sites?

I regret wasting a would have been perfect day of fast on such foolishness but glad at least to have you exposed!
 
If Allah swt disagreed with circumcision, then wouldn't Allah swt of told Muhammed PBHU? Told him not to do it and tell others to stop it?
 
does circumcision or the request of it date from the prophet ibrahim's pbuh time?
i bit ignorant of the matter so any help would be appreciated.
 
Jεώel oғ ωïѕdoм;1461304 said:


As'Salaam Alaaykum

I didnt say you did say anything about nose surgery, i was trying to make a point, that when one is in the condition of need, Allaah doesnt burden him, rather it is something adviced to do. for example, when falls down, another should help them to stand up..

Circumcision also brings one to the state of natural self which is purification, worshipping Allaah purified.

Is it opposite? If a disease or illness if not treated, not cause danger or harm to oneself? If one is not clean, his salah is not accepted. How is it that circumcision makes one artificial? You do know there have been cases where babies have been born with problems, one would bring the baby back to natural state by treating the baby, by the will of Allaah the baby is cured. So what the prophets (pbut) did was artificial?

AstagfiruAllaah - May Allaah forgive me.
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Jewel,

Should I cut off my hand, so that I do not have to clean it? I mean, if I have no hand, then there is no hand to get dirty, therefore I will be purer when I worship Allaah (swt).

Of course, this line of thinking is ridiculous - but it is no different to the ridiculous line of thinking of male genital mutilation

I am surprised at some of you females on here. Do you not want your husbands to experience the full sensations of sexual intercourse with you? It is common knowledge that MGM completely destroys a lot of the pleasure of sex for males, it destroys nerve endings and makes the penis dry, sore, scarred, ugly and gives it a leathery, chafed appearance.

Muslim men have done YOU the honour of allowing you to experience the full pleasure of sex.. maybe you should consider returning the favour and defending males who also want the male gender to experience the full pleasure of sex too.

I pray to Allah (swt) I have made the right choice
 
primate said:
Sadly I predicted this would happen back on page 2:



Insha'Allah the poster will calm down and stop with the insults.. it is sad that some people get angry over Islamic debate, but I have came across many people like that and they just have to be ignored I guess..
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show me where pointing the obvious equates with an insult? further show me which part of your debate is 'Islamic' at all? You quoted a deviant site and expect that it should register with us as Islamic and 'scientific' and then spin the crap into five pages where nothing anyone writes seems to have any sort of impact on you?

That's amusing to say the least!
 
primate said:
but it is no different to the ridiculous line of thinking of male genital mutilation
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SubhanAllah, are now deeming the Prophet (PBUH) line of thinking ridiculous? Guys, stop wasting your time on this one.
 
primate said:
Should I cut off my hand, so that I do not have to clean it? I mean, if I have no hand, then there is no hand to get dirty, therefore I will be purer when I worship Allaah (swt).
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cutting off the penis would make one a Eunuch not circumcised. I pray to Allah that he rids us of the deviants and they're certainly not difficult for the learned and seasoned to spot!
 
Ghazalah said:
If Allah swt disagreed with circumcision, then wouldn't Allah swt of told Muhammed PBHU? Told him not to do it and tell others to stop it?
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If Allah (swt) agreed with circumcision, why would he have made the foreskin at all?

*rolls eyes*
 
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1461313 said:
I pray to Allah that he rids us of the deviants and they're certainly not difficult for the learned and seasoned to spot!
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I am done here.. I am clearly not welcome on this forum, evidently a forum of people who confuse culture with religion.. yes you may be right, maybe I am deviant, but I have full love for Allah (swt) in my heart and maybe you need to learn that that is what counts.. I pray to Allah (swt) for us all
 
primate said:
If Allah (swt) agreed with circumcision, why would he have made the foreskin at all?

*rolls eyes*
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If Allah swt doesn't agree with the devil why have created him at all?

your logic or lack thereof really makes for an interesting conversation!
 
primate said:


I am done here.. I am clearly not welcome on this forum, evidently a forum of people who confuse culture with religion.. yes you may be right, maybe I am deviant, but I have full love for Allah (swt) in my heart and maybe you need to learn that that is what counts.. I pray to Allah (swt) for us all
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whatever.. go find some Jews to bother about that barbaric practice or meek Muslims who'll coax you to hold the number. Your relationship with God is inconsequential to me, just don't come here preaching deviant nonsense and expect us all to be ok with it after repeated attempts to teach you what's the correct Islamic view. Don't speak for God, or the Sunnah of the prophet or of science when you're so inept in all three areas!
 
primate said:


I am done here.. I am clearly not welcome on this forum, evidently a forum of people who confuse culture with religion.. yes you may be right, maybe I am deviant, but I have full love for Allah (swt) in my heart and maybe you need to learn that that is what counts.. I pray to Allah (swt) for us all
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i guess you are right, its whats inside that counts.

i found a genesis verse about circumcision but am unsure as to its validity, there is much debate about circumcision or the lack of it in the jewish community also.
i guess we have the sunnat to validate our views on such a thing and the related hadith.

as to the reasoning it depends on why you would want to circumcise yourself or not.. nobodies gonna know
 
primate said:
Muhammed (pbuh) said: "Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women."


I won't address the other poster until she apologies for the personal insult she made.
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you're quoting weak hadiths that are not accepted by scholars
 
primate said:
Of course, this line of thinking is ridiculous - but it is no different to the ridiculous line of thinking of male genital mutilation
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That's it, that's enough blasphemy from you, you should be banned

now go and repent for insulting the religion of Allah
 
Just read through all of the pages here on the forum. Now I don't know much about this as I am a new Muslim myself and don't have any children, but circumcision is something that even my Christian family has done for the sake of cleanliness in general. Has nothing to do with the religion as that has kind of faded into the background.

Seems strange to me that the original OP is against circumcision so his/her future son can have a better sex life? Isn't that vain to go against the teachings of the prophet (pbuh), the prophet who was taught by the One who created us all for some worldly physical pleasure? I just don't understand how that makes sense. I tried but I don't get it.

I do want the OP to stay if they are indeed serious but you should know that when you try to go away from "mainstream" Islam as you call it people will try to help put you back on track. This ummah is broken enough. You stray from one part of the Sunnah, you'll stray from another. I don't like the fact that men in Islam can have four wives but I'm not going around finding scientific articles to back up my views or staying around a group of Muslims who follow a one-wife only rule...:hmm:
 
This is crazy ;D women actually wanna marry Muslim men cos their circumcised among other reasons :hmm:
 
I don't want to make a post that is blow the waist or bad in taste but amongst other things it is appalling especially in the pediatric population where the parents have no clue how to clean their kid and they end up with a length wise worm like structure composed of smegma. I don't understand the hysterics in certain movements.. The anti-vaccination movement, the anti-circumcision movement. Some people have no interest in science and a load of interest in hysterics and theatrics!
 

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