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I just want to say that islam means peace. How does islam achieve peace?
Islam does so buy telling us what is negative and what is positive. Every step we take, every action we carry out, it tells us what causes us harm and what doesnt. By avoiding any negative and harmful things and only doing positve and benifiacal things a person achieves a peaceful life.

This leads me to expalin why pork is not permitted in islam. Not because of superstition but quite simply there is harm in eating it. if there wasnt, islam would permit us to eat it, but islam it, the reason is that there are negative effects in consuming pork.

hope that awnsers the question

i did hear from some one that pigs digest differently from other animals and thus have the higest level of ureaic acid in its blood which is a toxin. this could be a reason why we are not allowed to eat pigs
 
Well we had BSE not long ago, that was cows. So people can pick what they want to 'support' their causes or beliefs.

Yes BSE was a recent thing. Pigs have had the diseases mentioned in the second video since probably day dot - much longer than BSE's existence. In fact they probably had more chances of them in the past with less modern farming techniques, scientific test methods, better storage/preservation/freezing etc.

Also BSE was caused by mistreating the cows by feeding them other cows if I recall the incident correctly. This would not occur if cows were left to feed naturally or fed properly by humans.

I think pigs are the only animals which eat excrement. Whether they eat excrement or are fed at the Ritz every day they still spread the mentioned diseases. Also I have heard that pig meat is extremely high in fat content - a no-no for good health.

So people can pick what they want to 'support' their beliefs - but the wiser person will pick that which makes more sense from the facts/figures available not just a recent 'blip' i.e. BSE.
 
Why do you think that I am asking anyone to justify anything? Why are you and some others so defensive? I have no hidden agenda, I asked a simple question about the origin of the ban on pork; I made some simple observations about the fact that the ban existed long before Islam. I don't care if you eat pork or don't eat pork and I am not asking any Muslims or Jews to 'justify' why they don't eat pork. Why does such a simple question irritate some of you?


I am not offended I just don't see why people need to find hidden reasons about why we shouldn't eat pork.

The answer is simple: Islam forbids pork. That is good enough for me :)
 
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Does the lack of a cysticercosis threat mean you're quite happy with a beef tapeworm infestation?

Muezzin: if all meat tasted the same would you reject it because every animal tasted like human?
 
Hi,

I note that Muslims and Jews don’t eat pork. As there is no rational reason not to eat pork I presume that there is something written in the scriptures of both religions forbidding the eating of pork? I suspect that a couple of thousand years back pigs were full of all manner of worms etc., and there was a good reason to steer people away from pork and that’s how it might of got itself into Jewish scriptures but how did it get into Islamic teachings?

It is not only Muslims and Jews that do not eat pork I am aware of some Christian denominations that also do not. Seventh day Adventists immediately come to mind.

As far as how it got into Islamic Teachings. We are obligated to follow what came before and to follow all of the Prophets(PBUH) True scriptures are for all of mankind.

Now the reason pork is forbidden, is really very simple. Because Allaah(swt) has forbidden it to us. I think we stress our selves out too much in trying to find a reason for it being forbidden.

I suspect many atheists push for a natural health benefit as to why pork would have been found to be dangerous and want to tell us this to be the reason we decided Allaah(swt) has forbidden it. I think too often us Muslims fail to see the suggested insinuation non-believers are directing us to, when they try to push us to find a natural reason for the forbidding of pork.

If that were the case following the logic of that argument all people would have forbidden pork, unless everybody except Jews and Muslims were determined to get sick eating it.
 
Wow - once again I am amazed at how the simplest of questions can cause irritation !!


Have to say, if it were me expecting answers I would've left this site a long time ago. Being rude seems the order of the day...
 
Now the reason pork is forbidden, is really very simple. Because Allaah(swt) has forbidden it to us. I think we stress our selves out too much in trying to find a reason for it being forbidden.

I suspect many atheists push for a natural health benefit as to why pork would have been found to be dangerous and want to tell us this to be the reason we decided Allaah(swt) has forbidden it. I think too often us Muslims fail to see the suggested insinuation non-believers are directing us to, when they try to push us to find a natural reason for the forbidding of pork.

If that were the case following the logic of that argument all people would have forbidden pork, unless everybody except Jews and Muslims were determined to get sick eating it.
I don't know about most people but the reason I think some people like me try to find natural reasons is that Allah says he had made halal what is good and haram what is harmful. But one thing is harmful is very complicated to assess in for somethings.
 
Muezzin: if all meat tasted the same would you reject it because every animal tasted like human?
Yes. Even if Islam did not forbid it.

Fortunately, most things taste like chicken, apparently.
 
Interesting....
Early last year, a number of workers at a pork processing plant in Austin, Minn., began reporting similar symptoms: weakness, fatigue, "heavy legs," pain, and sensory disturbance. When doctors and state health officials investigated, it became clear that all the affected workers had been stationed in or near a portion of the plant where hog brains were liquefied using blasts of compressed air. Wait, does that mean it's time for the Explainer to stop eating pork brains?

No, but inhaling them would be a bad idea. After months of study, it now seems fairly certain that breathing aerosolized hog brain tissue triggers an immune response in the human body that is responsible for these workers' ailments. But there is no evidence thus far that eating pork or even pork brains will trigger the illness. In a press conference Wednesday at the annual convention of the American Academy of Neurology, doctors stressed that "there is no indication that this is a food-borne illness," nor any indication that it can be passed from person to person.

Torie Bosch warned that it could be dangerous to inhale cremated human remains. Michelle Tsai looked at the meat byproducts that go into a can of dog food. Emily Yoffe answered questions about foot-and-mouth disease. Brendan I. Koerner went over how you test for mad cow disease, and Juliet Lapidos explained why the government thinks mad cow is an STD.At the same time, the investigation is preliminary, and scientists have yet to identify the specific agent that is making workers sick. And, anyway, given that a single serving of pork brains in gravy contains a heady 3,500 milligrams of cholesterol—or 1,170 percent of the government's recommended daily intake—it might be best to go easy on the brains.

http://www.slate.com/id/2189379/
 
Don't you think that the prohibition of eating meat in Hinduism is originated from Jainism?

A Jain can't eat almost everything, they can't eat even vegetables like garlic and onion. They've got vegetarianism from Ahimsa teaching (non-injuring teaching), they had their motto Ahimsah Pramo Dharmah or "Ahimsa is religious duty" in carved in their temples.

Most Brahmins like Sarasvat Brahmins in Kashmir are traditionally meat consumers. Those Brahmins from the region with strong Jain influence like in Tamil Nadu, Rajasthan, and Gujarat are strictly vegetarians.
 
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As aamir has states there can be a lot of reasons one being the pig is a filthy animal swagging in the mud with it's
Big tummy dangling, who would want to touch , see or eat that thing?
 
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As aamir has states there can be a lot of reasons one being the pig is a filthy animal swagging in the mud with it's
Big tummy dangling, who would want to touch , see or eat that thing?

That is one side of a pig that has been a misconception for centuries. Pigs are actually one of the cleanest farm animals if given room. However, many farmers are greedy and try to squeeze as many pigs into as small a space as possible. Pigs are survivors and will live under adverse conditions, so somehow it got into common lore that is what pigs prefer.

IF ANYTHING I SOMETIMES FEEL THAT MAKING THE PIG HARAM IS TO PROTECT THE PIG FROM US. WE HAVE MISTREATED PIGS SINCE THE DAWN OF HISTORY.

It should also be noted that it is impossible to slaughter a pig in a halal manner. Because of the anatomy of a pig's neck, it can not be slaughtered without causing it great pain and suffering.
 
It should also be noted that it is impossible to slaughter a pig in a halal manner. Because of the anatomy of a pig's neck, it can not be slaughtered without causing it great pain and suffering.
What about decapitation?
 
IF ANYTHING I SOMETIMES FEEL THAT MAKING THE PIG HARAM IS TO PROTECT THE PIG FROM US. WE HAVE MISTREATED PIGS SINCE THE DAWN OF HISTORY.

It should also be noted that it is impossible to slaughter a pig in a halal manner. Because of the anatomy of a pig's neck, it can not be slaughtered without causing it great pain and suffering.
I think there are reasons for both sides, (1) halal slaughter is difficult. (2) as you said they are survivors their tolerance has evolved much higher, which would harm us more if consume them. From evolutionary pov might make more sense. There are animals that eat things toxic to humans and some animals are hosts to pathogens that doesn't harm them but they harm other animals. Eating meat of these animals that are tolerant to harmful toxins and pathogens are not suitable for human consumption. Normally carnivore and scavengers carry more pathogens in their system than herbivore.
 
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