Gaza in darkness as border closed

[wilberhum]

You mean they COULD stop killing each other?

(Being sarcastic)

I don't understand (Being sarcastic).
Stop killing each other is the ONLY solution.

 

[krypton6]

Hamas are true men who claim their lands regardless of what happends. Israel could have at least given power to the hospitals and given food to the stores, but this only gives yet another reason for palestinians to hate israelis and keep claiming their lands back while refusing to recognize the terrorist state of israel.

 

[wilberhum]

Hamas are true men who claim their lands regardless of what happends. Israel could have at least given power to the hospitals and given food to the stores, but this only gives yet another reason for palestinians to hate israelis and keep claiming their lands back while refusing to recognize the terrorist state of israel.

While recognizing the "terrorist state of Israel" we should also recognize the terrorist government of Hamas.

What is happening now is a direct result of Hamas actions.

 

[taybe smiler]

I dont think that they will make peace
but I believe that the weak and oppressed on earth will conquer in the end
en-shaa'-allah

 

[جوري]

While recognizing the "terrorist state of Israel" we should also recognize the terrorist government of Hamas.

What is happening now is a direct result of Hamas actions.

Can't be a terrorist in your home land?!
they are called 'freedom fighters' fortunately what 'Israel' wants will not come to pass.. we won't simply dissolve into neighboring cities or countries... they may have displaced five million from their homes and turned them into refugees, build walls, got free american social security dollars and weapons and erect some fancy halls for dancing on holy sites. But they will never know what it means to be at peace or at rest. This case will not dissolve no matter how hard they try!

They'll have to kill every last one of us first!


cheers

 

[wilberhum]

Can't be a terrorist in your home land?!
Sure you can.
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They'll have to kill every last one of us first!
I never knew you were a Palestinian.

cheers

I just find it sad that so few people want peace.

I don't think peace is the prime objective of either side.

Even sadder is when outsiders don't want them to have peace either.

 

[جوري]

Ori

Can't be a terrorist in your home land?!
Sure you can.

No, you really can't, unless deemed so by your own people not by a colonial settler state and its big furry friend lenny!
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I never knew you were a Palestinian.

I am a Muslim without borders.. the affairs of all Muslims concern me, no matter where they are on earth, if they suffer I do too!

I just find it sad that so few people want peace.

that is true.. sort of like when you have a headache and want it to stop by constantly taking analgesics, which won't help because perhaps the cause is a an inoperable GBM!

I don't think peace is the prime objective of either side.

there is too much biblical history that both sides want fulfilled.
This isn't let's wipe out the aborigines then write how sorry we are about it 300 years later... after all what more could they possibly want?

Even sadder is when outsiders don't want them to have peace either.

Jews are awaiting their 'moschiach' they figured they'd go meet him there instead of awaiting his return to lead them back to their 'holy land', christians awaiting a republican Jesus to descend from a silver cloud to fulfill their dreams of a rapture after the 'Jews return to Israel' and the Muslims are awaiting for Jesus to restore the Muslims empire as it once was.. each party thinks it is right.. and only time will tell us which actually is.. meanwhile there will be much bloodshed and no rest!


cheers

 

[Roasted Cashew]

While recognizing the "terrorist state of Israel" we should also recognize the terrorist government of Hamas.

What is happening now is a direct result of Hamas actions.

“I support the right of Palestine to exist, but I don’t think sending rockets into Israel is going to help matters.”

Qassam rockets are symbolic. They do little or no damage. Israeli Defense Minister Yaakov Toran is quoted as saying, "We need to remember that Qassams are more a psychological than a physical threat. Statistically they cause the fewest losses. . . "

Qassam were first fired into Israeli housing projects in 2002, and are extremely inaccurate, short-range homemade rockets. They are not Hezbollah-style Katyushas. When they are fired from Gaza, they are generally fired toward the Israeli settlement of Sderot, located upon the ashes of the Palestinian village of Nadj. Jewish terrorists drove Palestinians out of Nadj in 1948. Najd is one of 418 ethnically cleansed villages. Not a trace of this peaceful farming community remains.

Finally, the crude rockets are not fired by Hamas, but by Al Aqsa martyrs, which are allied with the collaborationist Fatah movement.

Of course the zio-media would have us believe that Qassam rockets are ICBMs with nerve gas and nuclear warheads.

 

[MartyrX]

I just find it sad that so few people want peace.

I don't think peace is the prime objective of either side.

Even sadder is when outsiders don't want them to have peace either.

We Muslims want peace, but we have every right to support our fellow Muslims who are being killed and were pushed out of their land in the first place.

 

[The_Prince]

im confused about all of this.....

now the electricity and engery that Israel is cutting, is that ISRAELI owned electricity from Israel from their own powerplants etc that they send off to power plants in palestine????

and as for fuel supplies etc, is that fuel from israel?????

also the medical supplies medicines etc that are being kept out, do they belong to israel?

 

[wilberhum]

“I support the right of Palestine to exist, but I don’t think sending rockets into Israel is going to help matters.”

Qassam rockets are symbolic. They do little or no damage. Israeli Defense Minister Yaakov Toran is quoted as saying, "We need to remember that Qassams are more a psychological than a physical threat. Statistically they cause the fewest losses. . . "

Qassam were first fired into Israeli housing projects in 2002, and are extremely inaccurate, short-range homemade rockets. They are not Hezbollah-style Katyushas. When they are fired from Gaza, they are generally fired toward the Israeli settlement of Sderot, located upon the ashes of the Palestinian village of Nadj. Jewish terrorists drove Palestinians out of Nadj in 1948. Najd is one of 418 ethnically cleansed villages. Not a trace of this peaceful farming community remains.

Finally, the crude rockets are not fired by Hamas, but by Al Aqsa martyrs, which are allied with the collaborationist Fatah movement.

Of course the zio-media would have us believe that Qassam rockets are ICBMs with nerve gas and nuclear warheads.

Well, it seams that we meet on some common ground.
I too support the right of Palestine to exist. As far as Israel is concerned, it has existed to long to just go away and rockets aren't going to make them go away. It will just make things worse.

Whether the rocket are fired by Hamas or Al Aqa martyrs is of little matter since Hamas takes to action to stop them and in fact support there actions if in spirit only. I was sad to see your "zio-media" remark. Blame the media for reporting facts. Sad Sad. Even you prove the fallacy by quoting what the Israeli Defense Minister said.
Besides I find the significance of that only in that less die. A luck hit will make you just as dead.

Don't go off thinking I have any support/love for Israel.

I don't think there are any good guys on either side.

 

[wilberhum]

We Muslims want peace, but we have every right to support our fellow Muslims who are being killed and were pushed out of their land in the first place.

Muslims are hardly unified in a quest for peace.

We have just seen some Muslims taking joy in the harming of people based entirely on where they live.

But it is always good to see anyone who wants peace. eace:

 

[wilberhum]

im confused about all of this.....

now the electricity and engery that Israel is cutting, is that ISRAELI owned electricity from Israel from their own powerplants etc that they send off to power plants in palestine????

and as for fuel supplies etc, is that fuel from israel?????

also the medical supplies medicines etc that are being kept out, do they belong to israel?

Wow those are really great questions. I assumed Israel, but didn't know for sure. So I went looking and found

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/01/21/israel.gaza/index.html

Gaza receives about 70 percent of its electricity from Israel, and the bulk of the remaining power comes from a generation plant in Gaza. That plant relies on fuel supplied by an Israeli company.

But still it is hate creating hate in an endless circle. So how they both need to want to break the circle.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Well, it seams that we meet on some common ground.
I too support the right of Palestine to exist. As far as Israel is concerned, it has existed to long to just go away and rockets aren't going to make them go away. It will just make things worse.

Whether the rocket are fired by Hamas or Al Aqa martyrs is of little matter since Hamas takes to action to stop them and in fact support there actions if in spirit only. I was sad to see your "zio-media" remark. Blame the media for reporting facts. Sad Sad. Even you prove the fallacy by quoting what the Israeli Defense Minister said.
Besides I find the significance of that only in that less die. A luck hit will make you just as dead.

Don't go off thinking I have any support/love for Israel.

I don't think there are any good guys on either side.

It's sad that you are still in the state of denial and refuse to accept reality about the "zio-media". Let me give you an example.

In an act of blatant deception, the Zionist-influenced media has headlined that in the closing session Iran’s President called for “wiping Israel off the map,” suggesting that he advocated a genocide or destruction of the people of Israel. One more big lie. Any tape or transcript of his speech will show that he said support around the world for Zionism is dwindling and that the Zionist Regime will be replaced by a democratic state in the same fashion that the Soviet Regime was dissolved in Russia. He specifically advocated complete civil and political rights for all residents of the region, and specifically mentioned protection for the complete civil rights for Jews and Palestinians alike, and he repeatedly stressed that all peoples should love and respect one another and must disavow violence and war.

How the Zionist media lies! Thank God we have an Internet where people can immediately learn the truth. Ten years ago these lies could be stated with no fear of contradiction, now you can hear with your own ears the truth rather than the lies of a pro-Israel media.

Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."
representativepress: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ&feature=related

Rabbi Weiss clarifies media lies(watch until the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQY60tN9yL8

You believe everything you see in the media knowing that mainstream media is obviously not totally unbiased. Your denial of reality is what is SADimsad.

Fallacy?? I would like you to explain further. Are you suggesting that I quoted an unauthentic statement of the Israeli Defense Minister? If so, proof it. Anyway, I hope you don't simply write the whole article off because it is so true.

 

[sur]

Can't edit, but I forgot to add random rocket attacks are wrong too. It's haram to kill innocents, we should just destroy the Israeli army. But I can understand why Palestine would do as they are, since they are oppressed by this terrorist state and have no real army or weapons like these cowards do.

very right. Fight should be only against fighters/oppressors which include relavant government officials who order oppression & killing.

& by the time we r unable to fight a much powerful enemy we should try to migrate......


Like Prophet Muhammad(saww) did in early days of Islam. He didn't rumble with much powerful enemy. He even migrated away from & left Most Holy place on earth ;Kabba. ........ & ..... when he gathered enough power like one 3rd of enemy's power then he fought against those who expelled them from their places.

That's the strategy muslims oppressed by israel should try to adopt.
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Israelies were killed & opressed by crusadors romans & germans etc etc, while when muslims took this land they NEVER opressed them & allowes them to stay & practice their religion. What those muslims didn't realise that they were feeding snakes & were being nice to scorpians. So these snakes & scorpions bit muslims despite hospitality they showed towards them & occupied & opressed the ones who were being nice to them.


Jews did such against God , no wonder they did it against muslims:-
Isaiah:1:2Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.




IS 1:21 How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

IS 3:16 Moreover the LORD saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:17 Therefore the LORD will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will discover their secret parts.

IS 3:25 Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.

 

[snakelegs]

but where can they go? gaza is like a trap.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

but where can they go? gaza is like a trap.

So true. Sometimes it sicks me to bone that The Arabs are not doing much for the Palestinians. why don't Saudi Arabia invest in Gaza and West Bank. Why don't UAE invest and build something there instead of investing in haram stuff like casinos.

 

[ahsan28]

Well, it seams that we meet on some common ground.

Whether the rocket are fired by Hamas or Al Aqa martyrs is of little matter since Hamas takes to action to stop them and in fact support there actions if in spirit only.

Because daily oppression creates hatred. Tanks, bulldozers, F16s and snipers shooting kids in the stomach don't go down well with a beseiged community, whose lands have been progressively stolen for decades.

The most evil incarnation of Imperialism ever seen.

 

[krypton6]

While recognizing the "terrorist state of Israel" we should also recognize the terrorist government of Hamas.

What is happening now is a direct result of Hamas actions.

Hamas has never ever attacked and killed civilians. They have not barbarically stolen the lands of fellow humans. They are simply fighting for their country, fighting in selfdefence.

Israel? They are not fighting in selfdefence they are the ones who attack civilians all the time, Hamas on the other hand have never attacked civilians.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Hamas has never ever attacked and killed civilians. They have not barbarically stolen the lands of fellow humans. They are simply fighting for their country, fighting in selfdefence.

Israel? They are not fighting in selfdefence they are the ones who attack civilians all the time, Hamas on the other hand have never attacked civilians.

Never attacked civilians? Before wilberhum replies I wanted to say that The rockets have killed 12 Israelis in six years.. And where were they fired? A settlement built on the ashes of ethnically cleansed Palestinian village. How many Palestinians have Israel killed in this month alone?? How does that equal out? It's true that one person dead is too much but the figures don't lie. We know who is the aggressor and who is the victim.