Gaza in darkness as border closed

[krypton6]

Never attacked civilians? Before wilberhum replies I wanted to say that The rockets have killed 12 Israelis in six years.. And where were they fired? A settlement built on the ashes of ethnically cleansed Palestinian village. How many Palestinians have Israel killed in this month alone?? How does that equal out? It's true that one person dead is too much but the figures don't lie. We know who is the aggressor and who is the victim.

No they have never EVER attacked civilians! If a man killed your family, stole your house and kicked you outside of your house, would you considere anyone living in that house and enjoying what you had, as innocent civilians?

Or would you kill them at first sight?

 

[wilberhum]

No they have never EVER attacked civilians! If a man killed your family, stole your house and kicked you outside of your house, would you considere anyone living in that house and enjoying what you had, as innocent civilians?

Or would you kill them at first sight?

Before Wilber replies, I love it.
In a 60 year conflict you can find examples of anything.
So I have one last punch and then I will allow all of you to get back to justification for killing people because of where they live.

If a man killed your family, stole your house and kicked you outside of your house,

The reality in most cases is more like, The family next door moved out of there house so there friends could kill you. Now they don't understand why they aren't welcome back.

And don't forget how the parents feel about the group that sent someone to blow up the school bus there kids were in.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Before Wilber replies, I love it.
In a 60 year conflict you can find examples of anything.
So I have one last punch and then I will allow all of you to get back to justification for killing people because of where they live.



The reality in most cases is more like, The family next door moved out of there house so there friends could kill you. Now they don't understand why they aren't welcome back.

And don't forget how the parents feel about the group that sent someone to blow up the school bus there kids were in.

Hamas has banned suicide bombings if not mistaken. They were carried out before. I am opposed to it but krpton6 believes it's justified. So maybe he will give his point of view. So what about the "zio-media" You still think I'm some jerk making stuff up?

 

[Roasted Cashew]

No they have never EVER attacked civilians! If a man killed your family, stole your house and kicked you outside of your house, would you considere anyone living in that house and enjoying what you had, as innocent civilians?

Or would you kill them at first sight?

Honestly, I would kill them at first sight but not the children and women.

 

[sevgi]

why in the world are we trying to justify killing? mass scale, small scale, mild terror, major terror.....

come on poeple...what are we doing here? is anyone really intrested in finding some intresting yet futile internet solutions or reasoning for the things happening in gaza or in israel?

the truth of the matter is that the Israeli army is engaging in terorising acts...as is Hamas...no matter how great or how little these acts are...it is plausible to call them 'terrorist 'organisations''.

theres no point in discussing 'whos fault it is'.. or 'who started it'...or 'who's worse'...

the point is that they are both being unfair to eachother...and thus their own countries...

of course the world is clear on the fact that israel is enaging in acts which are a lot more far fetched and victimising..perhaps 'mercyless' than that of palestine...

but they cheer eachother on..and israel has more power..so they bloody oath use it...

im sure that throughout the decades, if hamas had been supported and gathered enough power..they would also use it...

defence or terrorism..i dno. i would say that palestine just wants peace...but doesnt know what the hell to do..or how to go about trying to stay out of trouble...and they cant handle the fact that they are being victimised due to either israels power...or the lack of their own power...

i dont know what israel wants...i dont think they know anymore...

peace.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

why in the world are we trying to justify killing? mass scale, small scale, mild terror, major terror.....

come on poeple...what are we doing here? is anyone really intrested in finding some intresting yet futile internet solutions or reasoning for the things happening in gaza or in israel?

the truth of the matter is that the Israeli army is engaging in terorising acts...as is Hamas...no matter how great or how little these acts are...it is plausible to call them 'terrorist 'organisations''.

theres no point in discussing 'whos fault it is'.. or 'who started it'...or 'who's worse'...

the point is that they are both being unfair to eachother...and thus their own countries...

of course the world is clear on the fact that israel is enaging in acts which are a lot more far fetched and victimising..perhaps 'mercyless' than that of palestine...

but they cheer eachother on..and israel has more power..so they bloody oath use it...

im sure that throughout the decades, if hamas had been supported and gathered enough power..they would also use it...

defence or terrorism..i dno. i would say that palestine just wants peace...but doesnt know what the hell to do..or how to go about trying to stay out of trouble...and they cant handle the fact that they are being victimised due to either israels power...or the lack of their own power...

i dont know what israel wants...i dont think they know anymore...

peace.

Very true. Sister, I'm sorry but my point was that labeling a desperate and terrorized people as terrorists is wrong. And, I don't hate Jews or Judaism but I hate settlements.

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

the point is that they are both being unfair to eachother...and thus their own countries...

country:? isreal :? nah sis thats palestine!

im sure that throughout the decades, if hamas had been supported and gathered enough power..they would also use it...

considering the fact that someone invades my land, kills my people, and goes on as if im the 'bad guy' than i would too!

peace

 

[sevgi]

country:? isreal :? nah sis thats palestine!


considering the fact that someone invades my land, kills my people, and goes on as if im the 'bad guy' than i would too!

peace

i dnt get what u mean in the first line...

second line is eactly what everyone has been saying for the past three pages of this thread...which i made clear i found futile...

 

[sevgi]

Very true. Sister, I'm sorry but my point was that labeling a desperate and terrorized people as terrorists is wrong. And, I don't hate Jews or Judaism but I hate settlements.

i respect that...i know u dont hate jews as a whole...no one in the rite mind would.

yes...i understood ur point clearly...yet...we need to understand that comiting terrorising actions is in fact enuf to be labelled a 'terrorist'..as i said earlier...

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

i dnt get what u mean in the first line...

it means that 'isreal' is palestine, hun. they stole our land.

second line is eactly what everyone has been saying for the past three pages of this thread...which i made clear i found futile...

But you can understand why palestine would want revenge though
EDIT:

which i made clear i found futile...

well, it dosent look like the isrealis are gonna bugde are they?
:sunny:

 

[sevgi]

it means that 'isreal' is palestine, hun. they stole our land.


But you can understand why palestine would want revenge though
:sunny:

ok...i understand the first line...

i can understand why palestine would want revenge..yes...and they are gaining revenge thru watever means of power they have...or whatever power they are allowed to have...

 

[sevgi]

EDIT:
well, it dosent look like the isrealis are gonna bugde are they?
:sunny:

i dno how that relates to what im saying.

 

[sevgi]

ive said it before and ill say it again....these threads always die wen i enter them...whhhhyyy?

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

They've gone into Egypt now.

 

[wilberhum]

ive said it before and ill say it again....these threads always die wen i enter them...whhhhyyy?

Because these kind of threads are generated and sustained by bias hate.

The fact that you don't want to kill people because of where they live kinda puts a damper on there hate. That really makes them mad.

 

[krypton6]

The reality in most cases is more like, The family next door moved out of there house so there friends could kill you. Now they don't understand why they aren't welcome back.

And don't forget how the parents feel about the group that sent someone to blow up the school bus there kids were in.

The reality in most cases is more like, The family next door moved out of there house so there friends could kill you. Now they don't understand why they aren't welcome back.

And don't forget how the parents feel about the group that sent someone to blow up the school bus there kids were in.

The family next door did not move out, the woman and children moved out, but men and boys stayed to defend their country. Their "friends" were in fact western allies. Their western allied "friends" told them to move out so that the "real" soldiers could come and defeat the imperialists, yet they did not keep their promise, in fact they didnt even fight. Only the brave palestinians fought back.

And lets suppose that the "friends" were trully fighting. Why do you say " so there friends could kill you" ? Its more like "so there friends could protect you"

It was the zionists who wanted to kill you. The Palestinians and their mysterious "friends" only fought back, they would not kill if not nesseccary.


School bus? When did this suicide bomb attack happend? I've never heard of a school bus being blowed up, and even if, so what? Those same "kids" are zionists too and those same "kids" will join the army just few years later, and those same "kids" are the ones who write on the israeli missiles before blowing up muslims.

 

[wilberhum]

The family next door did not move out, the woman and children moved out, but men and boys stayed to defend their country. Their "friends" were in fact western allies. Their western allied "friends" told them to move out so that the "real" soldiers could come and defeat the imperialists, yet they did not keep their promise, in fact they didnt even fight. Only the brave palestinians fought back.

And lets suppose that the "friends" were trully fighting. Why do you say " so there friends could kill you" ? Its more like "so there friends could protect you"

It was the zionists who wanted to kill you. The Palestinians and their mysterious "friends" only fought back, they would not kill if not nesseccary.


School bus? When did this suicide bomb attack happend? I've never heard of a school bus being blowed up, and even if, so what? Those same "kids" are zionists too and those same "kids" will join the army just few years later, and those same "kids" are the ones who write on the israeli missiles before blowing up muslims.

How can you be so ignorant to think one story fits all?

Is it that you lack the intelligence to understand a coin has two sides?

 

[krypton6]

How can you be so ignorant to think one story fits all?

Is it that you lack the intelligence to understand a coin has two sides?

Its nothing new, it just became world known last summer, but in fact the've always done it to the palestinians.

How can you be so ignorant to belive that a school bus has ever bin blown up by a Hamas suicide bomber? And how can you be so ignorant to actually support the worlds greatest terrorists?

A coin may have two sides but Israel only has one.

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Because these kind of threads are generated and sustained by bias hate.

The fact that you don't want to kill people because of where they live kinda puts a damper on there hate. That really makes them mad.

LMAO! Love the sarcasm

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Its nothing new, it just became world known last summer, but in fact the've always done it to the palestinians.

How can you be so ignorant to belive that a school bus has ever bin blown up by a Hamas suicide bomber? And how can you be so ignorant to actually support the worlds greatest terrorists?

A coin may have two sides but Israel only has one.

I think he believes the Israelis are Saints or something.

A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel"
# 1955-1992:
1. Resolution 106: "...‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid"
2. Resolution 111: "...‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "...‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "...‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "...‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "...‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation"
13. Resolution 259: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29. Resolution 425: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
31. Resolution 444: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians"
39. Resolution 471: "...‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "...‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claims to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’
41. Resolution 478: "...‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’
42. Resolution 484: "...‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops"
55. Resolution 605: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.