Gaza in darkness as border closed

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wilberhum said:
Because these kind of threads are generated and sustained by bias hate.

The fact that you don't want to kill people because of where they live kinda puts a damper on there hate. That really makes them mad.
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haha thanks...thats reasuring...so do i continue to write...or stop and let havock run free....

posters usually jump rite over my posts...there isnt enuf space for argument in em...not enuf personal opinion to chatter on...

its always nice to know that someone understands me...:)

peace wilber...
 
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Egypt fires water cannons at border


RAFAH, Egypt (Reuters) - Egyptian forces fired water cannons at Palestinians trying to force their way across the Gaza-Egypt border on Friday and warned over loudspeakers the border would close at 3 p.m. (1 p.m. British time), witnesses said.

But security sources said Egyptian forces still did not have direct orders to fully close the border at any specific time, and a similar announcement made by loudspeakers on Thursday evening to close the border had not been carried out.

"Palestinian brothers, quickly return to the border. The border will close at 3 p.m.," police announced on a loudspeaker mounted to a car at the border. Similar announcements were being made by loudspeaker in the coastal town of el-Arish.

Security sources said Egyptian security men were trying to block Palestinians from entering at all, apart from one border point in Rafah, two days after Palestinians blasted open the border in defiance of an Israeli blockade.

The sources said Egypt had closed back roads that Palestinians were using after entering at other spots along the border, and were also trying to stop Palestinians from reaching el-Arish.

Egyptian forces began placing barbed wire near the collapsed steel border wall early on Friday, and witnesses said Palestinians threw stones at Egyptian forces, who responded by beating some Palestinians with clubs and firing several shots into the air.

Security forces were allowing Palestinians to exit Egypt from any point along the border line. Witnesses said some 40 truckloads of security men had been sent to el-Arish and were awaiting orders to deploy at the border.

Israel, which says its blockade of Hamas-controlled Gaza is intended to counter rocket fire by militants, has said it wanted to cut its links with the coastal strip by handing the supply of electricity, water and medicine to others.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said it was up to Egypt to ensure the security of its border with Gaza, and Washington said it was willing to work with Egyptian authorities to restore order but did not give details.

Israel occupied Gaza in the 1967 Middle East war but pulled troops and settlers out in 2005, although it still controls the strip's northern and eastern borders, airspace and coastal waters.

(Reporting by Mohamed Yusuf and Yusri Mohamed; Writing by Cynthia Johnston, Editing by Matthew Jones)

http://africa.reuters.com/world/news/usnL24897327.html
 
you know...

the only thing one really wants in the place they live is security and stability...

once thats taken away...its like hell.

sometimes i just think that it mite be better for the palestinians to just give up...and give the powers what they want...wateva that is...

i dno..is it really worth all the cuffuffle?...

btw..this is not my opinion..just a thought i had for a moment...
 
hmmm5 said:
I think he believes the Israelis are Saints or something.

A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel"
# 1955-1992:
1. Resolution 106: "...‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid"
2. Resolution 111: "...‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "...‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "...‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "...‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "...‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation"
13. Resolution 259: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29. Resolution 425: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
31. Resolution 444: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians"
39. Resolution 471: "...‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "...‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claims to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’
41. Resolution 478: "...‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’
42. Resolution 484: "...‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops"
55. Resolution 605: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
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The UN decided to create in Israel in the first place regardless of how it would be created. UN are our enemies as long as they do not return what they robbed from us.

The UN talks, but what have they done? Have they fought back or something? Have they spoken to the american government regarding their strong military support to Israel? They fight back in africa or anywhere else in the world where people are being killed and robbed, but they have never done anything against Israel.

Anyone betraying their own religion and people, deserve the same as what they would have bin given under the caliphates. Do you know what it was?
 
krypton6 said:
The UN decided to create in Israel in the first place regardless of how it would be created. UN are our enemies as long as they do not return what they robbed from us.

The UN talks, but what have they done? Have they fought back or something? Have they spoken to the american government regarding their strong military support to Israel? They fight back in africa or anywhere else in the world where people are being killed and robbed, but they have never done anything against Israel.

Anyone betraying their own religion and people, deserve the same as what they would have bin given under the caliphates. Do you know what it was?
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NO! I don't know. But I am still a firm believer that NOW a peace deal with all the Mahmoud Abbas demands full filled is the best solution.
 
hmmm5 said:
NO! I don't know. But I am still a firm believer that NOW a peace deal with all the Mahmoud Abbas demands full filled is the best solution.
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So your willing to give away muslim lands, and homes to the terrorists who have robbed your fellow brothers and sisters, killed others and driven millions away from their homes? What are you Israeli?

They used to execute the betrayers, betrayers such as the coward Mahmoud Abbas who is not even following the true Fatah.
 
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K6,
So what is your PRACTICAL solution to all this?
Thanks.
 
Who's supporting Israel? America! Lets suppose that America will continue their billion dollar aids to Israel and huge millitary support.

Will they be the super power of this world for ever? No in 50 years or less India, China, or Brazil will be the leading rich super powers and do you really expect from them to protect and support Israel with yearly billions? Do you really expect any of those furture super powers to want 1,3 Billion enemies?

But lets hope that America will not continue its aid til the day they no longer can or til the day Israel is defeated by another country. America will go through many 9/11's if this goes as it has bin going for the past 60 years.

I hope that america soon will get a new leader that will cut off the aids to Israel.

Perhaps Obama? He is afterall against Israel!

The palestinians wil just have to keep doing exactly what they have bin doing for the past 60 years, and one day they will return to their homes.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Do you think all muslims are against Isael? How many of those who do do you think are willing to do anything about it?
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Yes if anything then it is only the western "muslims" who do not care about muslims and Palestine. but logically most muslims do not live in the west.

How can a coward that recognizes his enemies and wants peace with them regardless of what they have done to him, his religion and people, be a muslim?
 
krypton6 said:
So your willing to give away muslim lands, and homes to the terrorists who have robbed your fellow brothers and sisters, killed others and driven millions away from their homes? What are you Israeli?

They used to execute the betrayers, betrayers such as the coward Mahmoud Abbas who is not even following the true Fatah.
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yes...

i think it is wrong to continue trying to 'fight' a battle ur gna lose...

mite aswel save ur ppl...its haram to continue allowing these innocent palestinians to die...

how many more deaths do we need? wats more important...life, or a chunk of land ur nevere ever gna be happi or safe on...?


look..as i said in my last post..this isnt my solution or opinion..its just a thought im spending time pondering on lately...

peace.
 
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Ok fair enough but considere this.

This battle is not over! In fact the Palestinians will win it sooner or later! They have fought so bravely for the past 60 years without ever looking back and even considering to recognize israel.

That chunk of land is islams third holiest land. That chunk of land is muslim, and it is our duty to protect it. The day the palestinians return to their homes, woman, man and child will all cry of happiness.

Israel will grow if the Palestinians start recognizing it, and as time goes on it will expand! The palestinians will just have to keep doing exactly what they have bin doing for the past 60 years, and one day america will pass by a greate leader that might stop the massive aids to Israel.

The other alternative is the unavoidable. America will not be a super power for ever, in the near furture they will no longer be able to keep up with others, and not many governments wish to have 1.3 Billion enemies.

The caliphates never ran from the battle, they fought til they died regardless of the odds.
 
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krypton6 said:
Ok fair enough but considere this.

This battle is not over! In fact the Palestinians will win it sooner or later! They have fought so bravely for the past 60 years without ever looking back and even considering to recognize israel.

That chunk of land is islams third holiest land. That chunk of land is muslim, and it is our duty to protect it. The day the palestinians return to their homes, woman, man and child will all cry of happiness.

Israel will grow if the Palestinians start recognizing it, and as time goes on it will expand! The palestinians will just have to keep doing exactly what they have bin doing for the past 60 years, and one day america will pass by a greate leader that might stop the massive aids to Israel.

The other alternative is the unavoidable. America will not be a super power for ever, in the near furture they will no longer be able to keep up with others, and not many governments wish to have 1.3 Billion enemies.
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every thing that has been tried for well over half a century has failed and only led to more bloodshed and suffering - usually much more on the palestinian side than on the israeli side. how will contintuing the same techniques ever bring about different results for either side?
i don't have the answers - the situation looks utterly hopeless to me. but obviously, what has been tried so far has been nothing but miserable failure.
many palestinians will never accept the existence of israel and israel will not accept its demise. i don't know if either will permit compromise.
no good guys anywhere in sight. :unhappy:
 
krypton6 said:
Yes if anything then it is only the western "muslims" who do not care about muslims and Palestine. but logically most muslims do not live in the west.

How can a coward that recognizes his enemies and wants peace with them regardless of what they have done to him, his religion and people, be a muslim?
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Currently we are seeing just how much the Egyptian Muslims care. :thumbs_up
Lebanon show how much they care by keeping the Palestine Muslims in camps and won't allow them to work.

Saudi Arabia won't allow them to become citizens.

Now where are all those Muslims that care? :skeleton:
 
wilberhum said:
Currently we are seeing just how much the Egyptian Muslims care. :thumbs_up
Lebanon show how much they care by keeping the Palestine Muslims in camps and won't allow them to work.

Saudi Arabia won't allow them to become citizens.

Now where are all those Muslims that care? :skeleton:
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Your missing so much.

Try understand this; the american allied and signed governments are the ones who are against Hamas, the people on the other hand are all anti-israeli, but they cannot do anything about it because of a dictator preventing them... I believe that the dictator is called america
 
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krypton6 said:
Your missing so much.

Try understand this; the american allied and signed governments are the ones who are against Hamas, the people on the other hand are all anti-israeli, but they cannot do anything about it because of a dictator preventing them... I believe that the dictator is called america
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How does this show all the support you are talking about. :D
 
krypton6 said:
Ok fair enough but considere this.

This battle is not over! In fact the Palestinians will win it sooner or later! They have fought so bravely for the past 60 years without ever looking back and even considering to recognize israel.

That chunk of land is islams third holiest land. That chunk of land is muslim, and it is our duty to protect it. The day the palestinians return to their homes, woman, man and child will all cry of happiness.

Israel will grow if the Palestinians start recognizing it, and as time goes on it will expand! The palestinians will just have to keep doing exactly what they have bin doing for the past 60 years, and one day america will pass by a greate leader that might stop the massive aids to Israel.

The other alternative is the unavoidable. America will not be a super power for ever, in the near furture they will no longer be able to keep up with others, and not many governments wish to have 1.3 Billion enemies.

The caliphates never ran from the battle, they fought til they died regardless of the odds.
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i havent read the posts after this...

but...ok...i know what ur saying...

but what ive been pondering is...

they been fighting bravely...but how many ppl have died...have they won??? what guarantee do u have that they will win...just wait for ultimate justice in the next world...

is that third holiest land more important than the lives of the 'holliest ppl in the world'--so to speak--

israel is big enuf...and if they expand...guess what...a bunch of poor palestinians orphans arent gna get in their way...

sometimes..u need to leave it to God...

i dno...i am merely posing these points...

i can hear the fury and passion in ur writing...i respect that...but maybe its time to just trust in God...if it is the third holliest land...then God would protect it right????

and from my knowledge...in islam...untill the judgement day..even the kabe will be taken in by non-muslims...

so why fight against whats written...

i dno...
 
krypton6 said:
Your missing so much.

Try understand this; the american allied and signed governments are the ones who are against Hamas, the people on the other hand are all anti-israeli, but they cannot do anything about it because of a dictator preventing them... I believe that the dictator is called america
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i just love blaming everything on the US....so convenient...

if we (all muslim states) had grown half a collective brain by today...we wouldnt be talking abt this....

so its our fault...after the ottoman empire...muslims just went..."ok..where do i sign up for a life of no education and hate towards the western world???"
 
krypton6 said:
I'm half arab I know what my people, and if I dont I know who does.

Arabic television channels all over the middle east, all support palestine and you can hear that through their news and programs.

Youtube shows zillions of videos of muslim opinions regarding israel.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3264964,00.html (Egyptians)

I could and can continue if you wish.
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Egyptians furious with Ghana defender, who plays for Israeli team
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Boy is that going to turn the world around. :?

I'm 75% Irish and I know what every Irishman wants, ya Da. :skeleton:

You can find support for anything on youtube. You can find support for making Islam illegal, so what?

zillions of videos. Only you would buy that. ;D;D
 
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