Had my Hijab pulled off in Public by a Guy!

[Eric H]

Blessings and peace be with you Yanoorah;

I believe you did the right thing to stand up for someone being bullied, you showed great faith and courage. They asked you to pray, and you have to believe that your prayers were answered in advance,

You walked away unharmed, which means you did the right thing, I believe that if you had tried to use any kind of weapon you would probably have been beaten up.

Sometimes I believe that one women is far stronger in a situation like you experienced. Had there been other men involved, it would probably have ended in a punch up with innocent people getting hurt.

If only Muslims and Christians could pray together and pray for each other, then you could come out in our team. We go out late on a Friday night in pairs, with the hope of bringing about a little kindness and peace on the streets. We often confront groups of ten or twenty youths, often drunk, sometimes confrontational.

I am sixty, my partner is a little lady of about the same age, and we have to put up with a lot of abuse, in the hope of seeing the good in people, it is a profound experience.

In the spirit of praying for peace on our streets,

Eric

 

[جوري]

I was pleased to see alot of people come out for Dr. Marwa's funeral..
Allah yehmha, may she have peace in paradise with her unborn daughter..

I was moved to tears by her funeral, as I was for the Palestinian lady who lost her son

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coFOVLZ1u9E[/MEDIA]

I believe that in spite of what the media portrays, especially eastern media, that the people know better than the hogwash the media dishes out from naked dancing w.h.o.r.e.s to falsifying information about her death as not a hate crime but a regular every day occurrence..

stabbing a pregnant woman in a court house 18 times is a normal every day occurrence... &asbona Allah wa'ni3ma alwakeel..
where is khalid and salah ad'deen..

 

[north_malaysian]

I was pleased to see alot of people come out for Dr. Marwa's funeral..
Allah yehmha, may she have peace in paradise with her unborn daughter..

I was moved to tears by her funeral, as I was for the Palestinian lady who lost her son

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coFOVLZ1u9E

I believe that in spite of what the media portrays, especially eastern media, that the people know better than the hogwash the media dishes out from naked dancing w.h.o.r.e.s to falsifying information about her death as not a hate crime but a regular every day occurrence..

stabbing a pregnant woman in a court house 18 times is a normal every day occurrence... &asbona Allah wa'ni3ma alwakeel..
where is khalid and salah ad'deen..

the sad thing is that even the medias in Malaysia didnt report this news so much... in fact many Malaysian Muslims dont know about this...

There are thousands of Germans wearing bikinis in Egyptian beaches .. and no Egyptian Muslims came to them asking them to cover up or calling them sl*ts... so who is more tolerant?

 

[جوري]

the sad thing is that even the medias in Malaysia didnt report this news so much... in fact many Malaysian Muslims dont know about this...

There are thousands of Germans wearing bikinis in Egyptian beaches .. and no Egyptian Muslims came to them asking them to cover up or calling them sl*ts... so who is more tolerant?

I know, walhi, I know.. imsad

 

[Ali_008]

Mashallah, may Allah reward you limitlessly for this action of yours.

 

[KiWi]

ukhtee

I just want to let u know how proud I am of u
Mashallah u did well
Alhamdulillah u were not physically harm
I know how frustrating it is to have someone, especially a guy, pull off ur hijab
It has happened to me when I was in 8th grade…
but Alhamdulillah the teacher happened to be there n he had detention
stay strong always

 

[Al-Zaara]

MashaAllah, I'm extremly proud of you. I remember in Germany I encountered very racist young men in the bus who just wouldn't shut up. I got into a 'verbal' fight and mind you, today I think it wasn't the best option I had, but they were left "kicked back" so to speak.

You do know it could have gone worse, I know it could have gone worse for me back then, but I wouldn't change the scenario. People get hurt for doing the right thing or protecting the truth, as simple as that. And 'to do the right thing' isn't always the outmost best option, that's the sad truth.

As someone said, this will probably haunt you for a while, but do not fear inshaAllah, make a lot of dua. Don't feel humilated, he took off your headscarf, but your pride and modesty is deep in your heart sealed. They think they embarrassed you utterly for that but those embarrassed are the busdriver and all those that left without a word. May Allah subhana we ta'ala reward you greatly for this honourable act. Amiin!!

 

[aadil77]

one MAN can fight against several kids being stupid. Scare one and they'll all chip!

I hope she has a strong enough spouse who'll stick up for her and not wimp out @ Nebz

haha yh IF they're kids, you don't know abt youths, some teenagers can easily mess up fully grown men and its not only extremely humiliating and degrading for the man but also for his wife and kids if they're around, trust I've seen it happen, so don't underestimate some of these yobs. They don't have no respect for no-one no matter how old they are or even if their families are around, some will look for the slightest reasons to get into a scrap.

Now a days you gotta be careful, 'wimping' out all depends on whether you think you can take them all, its not the time where standin up and saying a few words or giving a few dirty looks will do the job, you got to be ready to win a full on fight. If you think you can take them then don't think twice and go for it, but in some situations, you're better off walkin away then goin home with a messed up face all embarassed infront of your family.

 

[Duhaa786M]

Very bad 2hear! i'm sooorry 4u! tell me were do u live? cos' if its in South Africa my country than we surely will do something about this.. its totaly wrong.

 

[Asiyah3]

I'm sorry for hearing what happened. But you are very very brave really . It's sad to hear the others did nothing.

Alhumdulillah nothing happened to you physically. I hope happiness for you.

 

[Asiyah3]

in shaallah this doesn't happen to anyone anymore

 

[Güven]

How is it dying unnecessarily?? Those Muslims who died for their deen, died as shaheed.

Your example isnt a good one because she wasnt near a police station first of all. Second, there were loads of people who did NOTHING to help the little girl. In the case she wouldnt have needed to ask anyone help the girl, they just as well were WATCHING and IGNORED it. It would have been worse on her part as a MUSLIM to see wrong and let it fly. She felt brave enough to do it and felt as if she COULD do something and so she did.

Had there been a station nearby, YES I would have gone there. She had a bus full of people, including adults. Even a bus driver who could have easily contacted the police, but he did SQUAT.

Now u tell me, if u were her in that situation and no one was helping her, would you have just sat and watched it pass?? If you were that girl, would u have not wanted help?

The example that I gave wasn't about her situation it was just in general.
my question to you was...Do we really need to die to win a fight?

Sister, You have misunderstood me.

I have never EVER said that we should do nothing, that we shouldn't stand for justice. no , we should DEFINITELY help those in need , DEFINITELY stand for Justice and I have neither said that what sister Yanoorah did was bad.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

The example that I gave wasn't about her situation it was just in general.
my question to you was...Do we really need to die to win a fight?

Sister, You have misunderstood me.

I have never EVER said that we should do nothing, that we shouldn't stand for justice. no , we should DEFINITELY help those in need , DEFINITELY stand for Justice and I have neither said that what sister Yanoorah did was bad.

I apologize if I misunderstood you and perhaps u misunderstood me too :/

My point is...everyone is saying she should have done this or that, meanwhile she was on a moving bus. In the time the cops tried to find that moving bus anything culd have happened if she watched. No one bothered to help her. The stupid bus driver didnt even think of halting and kickng em off.

I doubt sis yanoorahs intention was to fight. If u havent noticed, she told them to back off and leave her alone especially since they r older than that girl. They didnt listen so what did u want from her. She didnt do anything, they did so she reacted back. Allah was with her obviously. No one is talking about dying here. If she didnt react to help her, what would make her any different from those ppl who sat like lazy bums?

I bet if her story was different, that no one helped her including herself, people in this thread would have said why didnt u do anything. Unfortunately she's not here to please us.

Btw, I never assumed or even hinted u said it was wrong, so no worries.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

You do know it could have gone worse, I know it could have gone worse for me back then, but I wouldn't change the scenario. People get hurt for doing the right thing or protecting the truth, as simple as that. And 'to do the right thing' isn't always the outmost best option, that's the sad truth.

:thumbs_up

 

[Banu_Hashim]

Do we really need to die to win a fight?

No. One example I can think is the Salt march that took place in India, in 1930.

http://www.dadalos.org/int/Vorbilder/vorbilder/gandhi/salzmarsch.htm

Gandhi began a new campaign in 1930, the Salt Satyagraha. Gandhi and his followers set off on a 200-mile journey from Ashram Ahmedabad to the Arabian Ocean where Gandhi wanted to pick up a few grains of salt. This action formed the symbolic focal point of a campaign of civil disobedience in which the state monopoly on salt was the first target. Prior to the beginning of the action, Gandhi sent a letter to the Lord Lieutenant "Dear Friend (...) Whilst, therefore, I hold the British rule to be a curse, I do not intend harm to a single Englishman or to any legitimate interest he may have in India (...) My ambition is nothing less than to bring round the English people through non-violence to recognize the injustice they have done to India. I do not intend to be offensive to your people. Indeed, I would like to serve your people as I would my own (...)."

So basically he marched to the ocean in an act of defiance against British rule and influence, instead of physically fighting their oppression. And it worked.

 

[MSalman]

as-salamu 'alaykum

the Messenger of Allah (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said: “Whoever of you sees an evil action, let him change it with his hand [by taking action against it], and if he cannot, then with his tongue [by speaking out against it], and if he cannot, then with his heart [by feeling that it is wrong], and this is the weakest of faith.” (Reported by Muslim, no. 70).

may Allah Ta'ala reward you abundantly for your courage sister, ameen

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^JazakAllah Khair for that hadeeth. This hadeeth comes in mind everytime, hence my posts!

 

[kulsumfatima]

assalamualaikum
sis that was very courageous of u
but so weired no one came to help what a selfish world :raging::raging::raging:

 

[Najm]

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

SubhaanAllah!!!

I didnt want to creat a debate over this. I shall keep it simple for you ahki G. I never questioned whether the post was good or bad, what i question is the way in which she said it. It was extremely disrespectful, negative, patronising.

I'll repeat my example here again....

If your sister came home and you found out that happen do you....

A) make sure shes ok and take care of her needs
OR
B) shout at her and tell her off:raging::raging:

I would do A. And spend the next couple of days with her to make sure she is ok.. And after a while once shes back to normal i would explain to her what she could have done.

FiAmaaniAllah

Your not saying anything bad, Akhee, I understand what you are trying to say.

First of all, No one is patronizing, no one is shouting , no one is telling off , no one is being negative and no one is disrespecting this sister.

Everybody on this thread are with the sister , Everbody on this thread supports the sister and trying to advice her as much as possible.

She did what She did and it was good. Im not saying it was bad what she did BUT she could've done it without taking this risk.

She may has an emotional rollercoaster , May Allah make it easy for her.
but atleast she is alive , right? Alhamdullilah.

don't take this situation so lightly.

I would say the EXACT same things to my sister.


What I would do? Are you comparing ME with an harmless sister?
brother, I have experience with this stuff.

- I would stare them, giving them a feeling that im watching them.
- I would have waited and see if they are going to leave her alone after a while.
- swearing , (sexually) Harrassment? you gotta bear with it until It goes TOO much out of hand, then I will make my move.
- I would have walked to the buschauffeur and tell him about it and see what he does or what advice he gives me. You can't just sit and expect the bus chauffeur to help, maybe he has no idea what's going on.
- I would talk with the guys. ( Usually the best solution )
- I would scare them. (if necessary)
- I would call some of my acquaintances for back up. (If necessary)
- I would fight (if necessary.)
- I would support the girl after they are gone incase she goes pscyho.


Fighting in the way of Allah? what point does it have IF the sister died like that? she could've have saved the girl WITHOUT taking this huge risk.

It's DAYLIGHT and it's a PUBLIC transportation. No matter how tough they are (and by the looks of it they werent tough at all) they ain't going rape/kill/beat a girl ON A BUS.


But what's done is done it's not point in arguing about "If's".

Im just saying....Be careful the next time.



and Do you also know the numbers who died UNNECESSARILY?

Nobody said she shouldn't stand for justice. no , She did good to stand up for justice.

but let me give you an example; A girl walks on the street AT DAYLIGHT , she sees a girl being harassed by some dangerous looking gangsters.
A couple of blocks further there is a police station.

Would you just jump in and fight the gangsters?(with the risk of dying and having nothing achieved) or go to the Police station? ( a Huge chance to save the girl without getting hurt)


lol I can't believe I actually made a debate of this thread , Forgive me all. :exhausted

SubhaanAllah!!! If you see a particular post, which i already mentioned, it was very patronising. If my sister went through all that, and comes home and gets patronised by my bro. Its extremely disrespectful. I would be a very angry man.



SubhaanAllah!!! You example is too much generalised. Naturally you would go to the police station. By then the girl could be killed, and left there etc etc. Allow that.

Akhi G you never know, I have heard of people being killed and left on the bus. And the driver finds out at the end of the day. :raging::raging::raging:

Good advise as highlighted in blue .

Allow the "debate". I just commented on what i saw as disrespectful (Post #67).

I think you guys took bro Najm all wrong.



Exactly!!!

Allah(swt) protected her because she chose to stand for justice and that is what Muslims should be doing, no matter what harm comes way. At the end of the day we know that Allah(swt) is with those who r just and do good! Especially those who go out of their way to protect those in need! Think about the countless men and women who fought for this deen especially justice.

JazakiAllah Khair. Very good posts throughout the thread.

as-salamu 'alaykum

the Messenger of Allah (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said: “Whoever of you sees an evil action, let him change it with his hand [by taking action against it], and if he cannot, then with his tongue [by speaking out against it], and if he cannot, then with his heart [by feeling that it is wrong], and this is the weakest of faith.” (Reported by Muslim, no. 70).

may Allah Ta'ala reward you abundantly for your courage sister, ameen

Allahumma Ameen!!! Excellent hadith.

FiAmaaniAllah

 

[Güven]

^this time I agree with you mostly bro.

I think neither of us are wrong.

If im wrong , forgive me though.

I still want to ask one thing, bro

How reckless should we be by throwing our lives when seeing injustice? Shall we not care what happens to us? or shall we think for the best and safest solution?