Harun Yahya's book "The Atlas of Creation" is sent to schools all over the world

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Have we found fossils of half mutated animals? Like animals in the transitional stages say between a Dinosaur and a parrot?

There seems to be a gap in many cases. Do we have fossils of all the transitional stages for every single animal?

I mean if we can find fossils of pre-historic dinosaurs then it can't be hard to find the fossils of the transistional stages?

Especially when it comes to human beings why don't we have fossils of all the different stages? Human's are pretty recent on earth comparatively so it should be a lot easier to find the fossils.
 
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Hamayun said:
Have we found fossils of half mutated animals? Like animals in the transitional stages say between a Dinosaur and a parrot?

There seems to be a gap in many cases. Do we have fossils of all the transitional stages for every single animal?

I mean if we can find fossils of pre-historic dinosaurs then it can't be hard to find the fossils of the transistional stages?

Especially when it comes to human beings why don't we have fossils of all the different stages? Human's are pretty recent on earth comparatively so it should be a lot easier to find the fossils.
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Transitions fossils do exist. Also, it is a myth, that we should find everything easily, infact, it is very lucky, that we found as much as we have.
 
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SixTen said:
Transitions fossils do exist. Also, it is a myth, that we should find everything easily, infact, it is very lucky, that we found as much as we have.
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Cool! So we have fossils of all the stages of human evolution? Thats sorted then. :)

Do you have a link to a website that shows the pics of the fossils? I would love to see them :)

Thanks
 
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Hamayun said:
Cool! So we have fossils of all the stages of human evolution? Thats sorted then. :)

Do you have a link to a website that shows the pics of the fossils? I would love to see them :)

Thanks
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No, I didn't say, for every stage exist (I mean, what is the probability of finding that, considering the billions of years the Earth has existed!), I just said transittion fossils do exist :).
 
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SixTen said:
No, I didn't say, for every stage exist, I just said transittion fossils do exist :).
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I am still interested in seeing them... how many of the stages between man and monkey have been found?

Reminds me of the planet of apes lol. Intelligent monkeys living in houses. Drinking tea lol.
 
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SixTen said:
You can, look up, homonid fossils, such as here http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html

and homonid species here http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/species.html
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I have to admit it is a very interesting read. Not quite the transitional stages I was hoping for but still thanks for that.

It suggests that we may have a common ancestor with the ape family but there is no clear evidence yet.

Thanks.
 
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It (the kafar website) suggests that we may have a common ancestor with the ape family but there is no clear evidence yet.
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  • If man has indeed evolved from a monkey, then doesn't the Qur'ân conflict with this theory?
  • and is believing in what Qur'ân conficts with not kufr?
 
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doorster said:
  • If man has indeed evolved from a monkey, then doesn't the Qur'ân conflict with this theory?
  • and is believing in what Qur'ân conficts with not kufr?
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Well I never said I believe it brother... there is no evidence. It only suggests that we might have a common ancestor with the apes.


Its just a theory and we know from history how many theories that people swore by for years have been proven wrong.

My faith is in Allah alone and even if things evolve then it is because he wants it to happen. Allahu Akbar :)
 
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Hamayun said:
Well I never said I believe it brother... there is no evidence. It only suggests that we might have a common ancestor with the apes.


Its just a theory and we know from history how many theories that people swore by have been proven wrong.

My faith is in Allah alone and even if things evolve then it is because he wants it to happen. Allahu Akbar :)
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No, not you (I like your ability to question), it is a question addressed to those, who in an attempt to look educated, jump in and start agreeing with evolutionist and in an effort to be liked by these kuffaar get my posts deleted as insulting or off-topic, so I clumsily piggy-backed on your post to keep mine from being sent to cyber-nothingness

:w:

even when they only say: "we might have a common ancestor with the apes,it is same as saying that "Qur'ân might be wrong"
 
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actually nvm - off-topic
 
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doorster said:
it is same as saying that "Qur'ân might be wrong"
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That is what the Evolutionists think. Not me. I was referring to the fact that they use the word "might" for the theory that we evolved from apes. Which means there is no clear evidence.

Is there any evidence? If there was then we wouldn't be having this debate. It is all assumptions and theories. No solid evidence.

Relax brother. Newton's laws of physics went out of the window recently so will many other laws and theories. Just hold tight and hold on the the rope of Allah (SWT)
 
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Hamayun said:
That is what the Evolutionists think. Not me. I was referring to the fact that they use the word "might" for the theory that we evolved from apes. Which means there is no clear evidence.

Is there any evidence? If there was then we wouldn't be having this debate. It is all assumptions and theories. No solid evidence.

Relax brother. Newton's laws of physics went out of the window recently so will many other laws and theories. Just hold tight and hold on the the rope of Allah (SWT)
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I do not know how to make it any clearer that my intended target was not you, I had better leave the thread before I get in to any more trouble, I am already being shunned by entire LI-Staff with exception of 2 or three and only have a total of 4 members on this site (of over 20 k membership) who will help me covertly with my posts (I was hoping you to become the 5th)

I, once again, apologise and will edit the "offending" post yet again.
 
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lol Sorry brother. I am not offended in the least :D I actually appreciate your posts. Don't edit them. They are your honest opinion :)

Jazakallah Khayr bro :)

While on the subject what caused the first organism to come into existence? Even if it was just a single celled organism. What made it alive as opposed to other matter?
 
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doorster said:
I do not know how to make it any clearer that my intended target was not you, I had better leave the thread before I get in to any more trouble, I am already being shunned by entire LI-Staff with exception of 2 or three and only have a total of 4 members on this site (of over 20 k membership) who will help me covertly with my posts (I was hoping you to become the 5th)

I, once again, apologise and will edit the "offending" post yet again.
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if i can be of assistance, Shabir Ahmed ibn Abdul Rahman, let me know! you have more of an education than i, so when you post you are apt to say what i would have, only you say it better![so i end up posting less] :D

just have Sabr!

and remember Hamayun ALL of the laws of nature, even if real, only apply to us and NOT to Allah[swt]!

e=mc [squared] IS SHIRK! unless you write it: e=mc [squared] FOR MAN! as Allah[swt] can create either energy or mass any way He[swt] wants merely by saying: "BE!"

and if we evolved from apes, wouldn't apes be gone...:blind:

:w:
 
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Hamayun said:
Newton's laws of physics went out of the window
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Man went to the moon on the basis of Newton's laws of physics! Relativistic physics just shows Newtonian physics to be a special case, one that is perfectly adequate for virtually everything in everyday experience.
 
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YusufNoor said:
and remember Hamayun ALL of the laws of nature, even if real, only apply to us and NOT to Allah[swt]!

e=mc [squared] IS SHIRK! unless you write it: e=mc [squared] FOR MAN! as Allah[swt] can create either energy or mass any way He[swt] wants merely by saying: "BE!"

and if we evolved from apes, wouldn't apes be gone...:blind:

:w:
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The evolutionists reckon that we had a common ancestor which means one of the species of monkey evolved into man while the other species carried on as monkeys.
Again these are not my ideas I am just explaining their point of view.


Trumble said:
Man went to the moon on the basis of Newton's laws of physics! Relativistic physics just shows Newtonian physics to be a special case, one that is perfectly adequate for virtually everything in everyday experience.
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That just confirms what brother YusufNoor said. The laws that apply to humans/earth may not apply in other dimensions.
Don't limit yourself to what you see around you. I doubt we know even 0.1% about the universe. "Only Allah knows what lies in the heavens and the earth".
All I can say is Allahu Akbar :)
 
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north_malaysian said:
Some animals evolved and some are not... which prove that there is a God... he chosed which animals evolved and which is not...

and like alcurad said "humans coming from Adam does not mean evolution is wrong... "
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There is a reason some animals evolve and others dont, but it's not explained by God.
If you want a good basic understanding of the theory I would reccommend the series of Vidio's "Climbing Mount Improbable" they are on youtube as well as at RDF
 
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doorster said:
  • If man has indeed evolved from a monkey, then doesn't the Qur'ân conflict with this theory?
  • and is believing in what Qur'ân conficts with not kufr?
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True

Now we need to understand what was said and under what conditions.

The words, might, possible, if, imagine and many similar words are strong indicators the statement is only a person's thought.

A person's thought may be just an analogy, a guess, or random imagination. It means the person has no way to show it is what is.


Without believing it to be true a person can say in innocence "We might be descended from polka dotted unicorns." which is much different than saying we are descended from polka dotted unicorns.

A "might be" statement is neither true nor false, It is no more than an exclamation. Not much different than simply shouting "blkspft" meaningless words to generate conversation or thought.
 
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barney said:
There is a reason some animals evolve and others dont, but it's not explained by God.
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And the reason being an intelligent system called evolution? You do agree it is an intelligent system right?

Or do you believe an amoeba has the mental and physical capacity to change physical form by just willing it for many centuries? "Oh I quite fancy growing a pair of those eyes and ears people keep talking about. They are the latest fad."

The design of the eye is extremely intricate and complex. The replication of anything even close to it would need a huge amount of planning, research and development....
 
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