Homosexual Indoctrination in UK Schools - it's happening now

[observer]

If they're caught and there are witnesses punishment is death I don't know if they're given a chance to repent it's a judicial matter!

Thanks for the info.

 

[ardianto]

If you love someone for their personality, appearance, attitudes, actions, etc, exactly the same as a heterosexual person would, then what on earth is the problem with tht?

If a woman attracted to you, then she would sexually attracted too. Imagine if a man attracted to you?.

 

[faithandpeace]

Islam is far more tolerant than many non-Muslims wish to admit. For instance, in Islam one is not allowed to go searching for other people's sins nor are we allowed to publicize our sins. Muslims are not allowed to spy on other Muslims either. Therefore, while sharia is very strict on a variety of things that are legal in the West (such as homosexuality, adultery, and alcohol), in an Islamic state, insha'Allah we would not be running undercover sting operations to catch people doing these things. So essentially what remains behind closed doors and is not discussed stays that way and the community as a result is generally not harmed by the vices as there is no presence nor tolerance of such sins in the public arena. Sins done in private such as homosexuality are still between the sinner and Allah (swt) and if left unrepented for should be considered very serious matters. So while many non-Muslims may think the penalties in Islam are very harsh, our methods of enforcement are fair as spying, sin-searching, and suspicion without evidence are forbidden. Allah (swt) knows best.

 

[Independent]

So while many non-Muslims may think the penalties in Islam are very harsh, our methods of enforcement are fair as spying, sin-searching, and suspicion without evidence are forbidden

The principle is admirable - however, I wonder about the actual practice in reality? Muslim states seem to have central intelligence agencies with all the usual set of responsibilities just like anyone else. And it's not just the obvious police states like Syria eg:

Saudi Arabia - Ri'āsat Al-Istikhbārāt Al-'Āmah
Malaysia - Kor Risik Diraja
Turkey - Milli İstihbarat Teşkilatı

 

[faithandpeace]

I am referring to an Islamic state run per Qur'an and Sunnah. There are a number of states that call themselves "Islamic" but I'm not sure that any of them truly live up to that name.

 

[جوري]

The principle is admirable - however, I wonder about the actual practice in reality? Muslim states seem to have central intelligence agencies with all the usual set of responsibilities just like anyone else. And it's not just the obvious police states like Syria eg:

Saudi Arabia - Ri'āsat Al-Istikhbārāt Al-'Āmah
Malaysia - Kor Risik Diraja
Turkey - Milli İstihbarat Teşkilatı

With people like you it is ideal to be alert, however, NONE of those are Islamic countries or follow sharia, they are merely Muslim majority countries following western style systems!

best,

 

[Independent]

NONE of those are Islamic countries or follow sharia

I didn't say they were. I said they were 'Muslim countries'.

 

[جوري]

I didn't say they were. I said they were 'Muslim countries'.

A country is an organized body of people under a single government, in those countries you afore mentioned none of them run on Islamic or are under Muslim governance, again, Muslim majority doesn't equal to Muslim rule! Try to read more and comment less, then we wouldn't have a laundry list of snafus to enjoy!


best,

 

[alcurad]

Yet another reason to home school.
They become more independent & tend to be smarter than their peers in formal settings. That being said, correlation does not equal causation.

 

[جوري]

Yet another reason to home school.
They become more independent & tend to be smarter than their peers in formal settings.

The only down side I see to that until proven to me otherwise is lack of developing social skills or ability to acquiesce to varying situations which require team work.
People back then and with oral traditions were schooled under the tutelage of a scholar and I think that is ideal but in truth not only is there shortage of scholars but there are tons of people who seek education so they all have to submit to the subpar system until something better is invented!

 

[Karl]

Maybe homosexuality is getting pushed to get the population down (not to mention the spread of AIDS). I think war is the best way, survival of the fittest and so forth. Another thing is that Muslims and Catholics will out number everyone else in Britain if all the liberal lefties go gay. Northern Island will be free and Ireland will be one nation again.

 

[Independent]

So essentially what remains behind closed doors and is not discussed stays that way and the community as a result is generally not harmed by the vices as there is no presence nor tolerance of such sins in the public arena. Sins done in private such as homosexuality are still between the sinner and Allah (swt)

Just how far away from the Islamic ideal many Muslim states are is illustrated by this recent incident in Beirut. The police are pulling in men they suspect of being gay and subjecting them to an aggressive anal examination, hoping to discover if they have had anal sex. That seems to me to be just about as far as anyone could go to delve into the private lives and sins of others. Full report here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25057067

 

[جوري]

Just how far away from the Islamic ideal many Muslim states are is illustrated by this recent incident in Beirut. The police are pulling in men they suspect of being gay and subjecting them to an aggressive anal examination, hoping to discover if they have had anal sex. That seems to me to be just about as far as anyone could go to delve into the private lives and sins of others. Full report here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25057067

:haha: that's hilarious, you should direct this to the debauched country that is Lebanon, 40% christians and the majority of Muslims are shiites. You're in the wrong forum for whatever you're going for here
BBC is a hoot anyway even if it were true it is irrelevant to this forum. Yesterday they posted a report about Egypt which wasn't only far off but even the coup they wish to sponsor wouldn't agree with it according to their own state media official stories. You keep digging for the stories you wanna showcase here but do a little bit of research on demographics before you do. Not everyone here is as ignorant & moronic as you're hoping!
best,

 

[faithandpeace]

Subhanallah that is disturbing because while Islam is clear on its position regarding homosexuality, it is also clear on that Muslims are not to spy on other Muslims or go searching for sins especially on suspicion without evidence. Then again, Lebanon is not an Islamic state.

 

[جوري]

Subhanallah that is disturbing because while Islam is clear on its position regarding homosexuality, it is also clear on that Muslims are not to spyon other Muslims or go searching for sins especially on suspicion without evidence.

Why are you disturbed? Lebanon is the most vile country in the ME.. Syria was like them too except Al7mdullilah for the revolt so they can rid of that filth. The situation in Lebanon is very complicated. Everyone in their govt. follows a different creed. The prime minister is one religion, the president is another etc. they walk in all directions and it is a very debauched country. I wouldn't believe the story but if it were true, they're probably checking them so they can commit lewd acts with them on the side. It is a little version of France and that's how the west loves it.

http://www.islamicboard.com/general...-schools-its-happening-now-4.html#post1601036

 

[Ian Wishart]

Yup, it is the rise of the Beast. A Christian has put out a book called Totalitaria by Ian Wishart, this could be an interesting read. He talks about the UN taking control of the world and breaking the world down to one world totalitarian hegemony.

The state has no rightful place forming the minds of the young, that is for the parents to do instead. And the parents should teach their offspring whatever they deem fit.

Hi Karl

I am the author of whom you speak, and yes the new book Totalitaria is equally relevant to Muslims as to Christians. The United Nations is working through a plan to create a global governance structure, but to do that they wanted to first make some social engineering changes to make people more receptive.

Their view is that "world peace" and "tolerance" require religions with firm doctrine, like Christianity and Islam, to be marginalised in favour of a new global religion based ultimately around what Christians and Muslims call the evil one, filtered through New Age and Buddhist principles. There is some evidence to suggest this crowd are trying to provoke Christian/Muslim conflict.

The whole plan, sourced from UN documents (there are nearly 500 footnotes and references in the book) is laid out in Totalitaria and will frankly shock you.

As I say in the book, regardless of whether readers believe in the supernatural part of the global governance plan, those behind it DO, and because they are in positions of considerable power they need to be taken seriously.

It's available from The Book Depository or Amazon in print or kindle form...I strongly urge people with good hearts everywhere to read it and wake up to what is coming...

Regards
Ian

 

[جوري]

this woman shoshana you speak of, her story was indeed all over the news and they made it seem like she was understanding and totally loved the whole experience. Do you know if she's letting that go or if she's suing- or will this become status quo from now on?

 

[Ian Wishart]

this woman shoshana you speak of, her story was indeed all over the news and they made it seem like she was understanding and totally loved the whole experience. Do you know if she's letting that go or if she's suing- or will this become status quo from now on?

She is suing...but my point was very simple: when Citizens allow the State to remove their freedoms, they usually never get them back. These kind of incidents are becoming more common. Not just against people who look Middle Eastern but against anyone authorities become suspicious of.

 

[جوري]

She is suing...but my point was very simple: when Citizens allow the State to remove their freedoms, they usually never get them back. These kind of incidents are becoming more common. Not just against people who look Middle Eastern but against anyone authorities become suspicious of.

Indeed..

 

[glo]

Muslims and Catholics will outnumber everyone else in Britain if all the liberal lefties go gay.

That is the most ridiculous statement I have heard in a long time. I don't know whether to laugh or cry ...