How is it possible for god not to exist??

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Be that as it may, athiests "use" science in order to counter religious beliefs, as you stated yourself. Athiests vs. theists is the point of the thread, so science will automatically become the battlefield. My overall point, which perhaps I didn't make clear enough, is that I believe many believers tend to look at science as an enemy of faith. That is a sad reality, and not necessary at all. Science actually reinforces my faith, because to me the more science uncovers about the design of nature and the universe, the more it becomes apparent that this design is anything but random. I don't expect athiests or all scientists to agree, just a personal observation.

atheism is pretty much a philosophy. ANd yes many use science to disprove different religious ideas.

rel= we came from clay, corn, etc...
science= shows this not to be true.

etc...

rel= earth flat
science= nope...

etc..
 
Why? :confused: How many days do you think it took? :hiding:


Six days. But not six 24-hour periods. Here's some cut n paste:

The Qur'an states that "Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days" (7:54). While on the surface this might seem similar to the account related in the Bible, there are some important distinctions.

The verses that mention "six days" use the Arabic word "youm" (day). This word appears several other times in the Qur'an, each denoting a different measurement of time. In one case, the measure of a day is equated with 50,000 years (70:4), whereas another verse states that "a day in the sight of your Lord is like 1,000 years of your reckoning" (22:47). The word "youm" is thus understood, within the Qur'an, to be a long period of time -- an era or eon. Therefore, Muslims interpret the description of a "six day" creation as six distinct periods or eons. The length of these periods is not precisely defined, nor are the specific developments that took place during each period.

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Six days. But not six 24-hour periods. Here's some cut n paste:

The Qur'an states that "Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days" (7:54). While on the surface this might seem similar to the account related in the Bible, there are some important distinctions.

The verses that mention "six days" use the Arabic word "youm" (day). This word appears several other times in the Qur'an, each denoting a different measurement of time. In one case, the measure of a day is equated with 50,000 years (70:4), whereas another verse states that "a day in the sight of your Lord is like 1,000 years of your reckoning" (22:47). The word "youm" is thus understood, within the Qur'an, to be a long period of time -- an era or eon. Therefore, Muslims interpret the description of a "six day" creation as six distinct periods or eons. The length of these periods is not precisely defined, nor are the specific developments that took place during each period.

Source

Regards

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Actually I will. Will you not at least attack the explanation given? Please?
 
Actually I will. Will you not at least attack the explanation given? Please?
Oh dang it. :embarrass OK.
This word appears several other times in the Qur'an, each denoting a different measurement of time.
So there is no way to determine the amount of time. So "No Answer" can not be a "Wrong Answer". But also, it can not be a "Correct Answer". :shade:

If I remember right. (I often don't:uuh: ) Humans did not evolve; they can from outer space or something like that, after they were made from clay. (Don’t get hug up on the particulars if I got any of it wrong, it won’t change the conclusion)
Cool for a belief but not too scientific. Now some work around that and some don't.
It is obvious that not all Muslims interoperate all things in the Quran the same.
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If there were a god he would come for an occasional visit.

He would give us a state of the union address and keep us up to date on the latest developments in heaven and hell.

Apparently he can be everywhere at once. And yet, there are some who claim, that from time to time, he has sent angels to deliver messages. Maybe he was too busy to deliver it himself. If he can be everywhere at once why does he need angels?

Also, why does he need satan? I would have thought an all powerful god, could light an eternal fire without having to employ somebody to tend the fire?

God, angels and satan are all inventions of man
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Perception is an invention of man, reality is not.
 
A man's perception is his reality.

Joe98 makes logical statements that Darkseid seams unable to respond to.
 
i notice from joe98 that he doesnt realise Allahs majesty


if Allah was to deliver a message himself he would expose himself, and if he exposes himself to us then that is like the greatest reward and happiness we can wish for. It is something which makes heaven what it is. Thus Allah in his wisdom and majesty is delaying the day he will reveal himself to us.

A lot of people dont understand Allahs majesty, he has a way he does things, it doesnt belittle his Lordship or his being a God at all !
 

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