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lol @ MEG, you must think im some kind of fool 

I have no idea what came into 'his own means' is that a euphemism to hide the self-immolating mangod fiasco?I am surprised at how ignorant the message in this post is. Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same God, but have different beliefs about Him. They are all the Abrahamic religions. Christians believe that "He came unto his own", Muslims don't, but there is only one God so how could you believe that you believe in a different god?
How come that govt. can't protect women having acid on their face right at home?Who ever preaches the Word of God by force is in the minority and is sinning. I don't know how you came up with 'many of you'. And I don't know what you mean by every imaginable warfare. That is something involving the American government and sheepish British government, it has nothing to do with Christians. The governments are also protecting those women who are having acid thrown in their face for receiving higher education.
So your god does love hitler and you can look forward to hovering around in a christian heaven right along with him? do I understand correctly?God does love the Jews, Hindus and Zoroastrians. He doesn't only love those who can return the favour. If He only loves those who love Him, then why did He persist when the Israelites kept turning to idols and sacrificing their cihldren in pagan traditions?
What exactly is that message of christ?The reason why there are different interpretations is because some people ignore Sacred Tradition, removed a lot from the Bible, adjusted it and don't take into account cultural aspects. Regardless, of this, the message of Christ remains the same. We still have the original Bible however and the churches are slowly being reunited, so please don't accuse it of contradictions.
actually Christianity is meaningless and you only serve to tighten the noose around your neck every time you spew that christian drivel!And I'm sorry to say to make your argument meaningless, but the American government has nothing to do with Christianity.
if half of what you are writing has nothing to do with the thread then don't write it-- simple ey? use the old noodle..Half of what I wrote wasn't to do with this thread :hmm:
what is the christian definition of love? Is a sinner loved as much as the person who does not sin?
In Islam one of the Gods 99 names is Al wadud meaning the Most loving. There is no higher love then the one who is Most loving
The human concept of love while the most powerful of human emotions is insignificant in comparison of the attributes of Allaah(swt)
There seems to be a lot of anamosity between people here about Gods love, to make things really simple Allah loves all of His creation. But this is not on a personal level you must understand, it would be like a person saying "I love the sea" even though the sea can be full of sharks and really ugly fish.
"Love your enemies" has so many meanings, but I believe Jesus (PBUH) meant this on a political level. The Jews were very inward looking and phobic of other cultures and considered all non Jews as the enemy. He was trying to get them to rise above this small minded tribalism.
I have no idea what came into 'his own means' is that a euphemism to hide the self-immolating mangod fiasco?
How come that govt. can't protect women having acid on their face right at home?
So your god does love hitler and you can look forward to hovering around in a christian heaven right along with him? do I understand correctly?
What exactly is that message of christ?
If you want to know this from a Catholic perspective, you would need to read the Bible and then read the Catechism as there is too much to write.
actually Christianity is meaningless and you only serve to tighten the noose around your neck every time you spew that christian drivel!
That was a funny statement to make. Do you like others to be aware of your religious intolerance?
Half of what I wrote wasn't to do with this thread because half of what is being said is insults about Christianity.if half of what you are writing has nothing to do with the thread then don't write it-- simple ey? use the old noodle.
one often wonders how christians live with themselves, aside from the patent lunacy of those bible belters, and we are not soon to forget scenes as such
That man was creepy. But saying that all Christians are like that is like me saying that all Muslims support terrorism. Do understand what reasoning you have just used?
Yes the sinner is loved just as much. The word used for love in the New Testament is 'agape'. If someone has agape for another, they are giving them love which is undeserved. They will go out of their way to give the other what is best for them. God demonstrates agape by providing us sinners with prophets, allowing to pray, repent etc... He allows us to enter heaven even after sining against Him and we believe that God is constantly trying to call back those who are astray.
We believe that prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) came to preach the same message that Prophet Moses (peace be upon him) had preached before him, and not to alter or abolish it. All the Prophets (peace be upon them) preached the same message that God had sent them to preach; to worship ONE God. The message didn't suddenly change when it came to Jesus (peace be upon him), with a three in one god.Do Muslims believe in the Old and New Covenant?
To clarify, I will try to summarise it for you: (Old Covenant)Because the Israelites were commanded to sacrifice one of their animals (preferably a first born, male Lamb) to attone for their sins, Jews are waiting for an opportunity to rebuild their temple so that they may do this once again. (New Covenant) Christians would be doing this also if we didn't believe that Christ is The Lamb of the New Covenant- the perfect and everlasting sacrifice.
Yes the sinner is loved just as much. The word used for love in the New Testament is 'agape'. If someone has agape for another, they are giving them love which is undeserved. They will go out of their way to give the other what is best for them. God demonstrates agape by providing us sinners with prophets, allowing to pray, repent etc... He allows us to enter heaven even after sining against Him and we believe that God is constantly trying to call back those who are astray
Yes the sinner is loved just as much. The word used for love in the New Testament is 'agape'. If someone has agape for another, they are giving them love which is undeserved. They will go out of their way to give the other what is best for them. God demonstrates agape by providing us sinners with prophets, allowing to pray, repent etc... He allows us to enter heaven even after sining against Him and we believe that God is constantly trying to call back those who are astray.
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1367856 said:let's put it in the simplest terms, if the christian god loved everybody then there should be no hell.. what is the point of having god's love yet incurring his eternal wrath? hilarious no? how do they reconcile that?
'his own' is us. And yes, but not in the offensive way that you phrased it.
Actually it doesn't, they are hyper vigilant at carpet bombing entire villages and stripping people naked overseas to capture one elusive man, that they haven't caught yet, who keeps producing tapes around the clock, and by the same token they could do that here, carpet bomb streets to capture one crazy woman on the loose.. or what you don't agree with that philosophy? Do you think that is crazy? 'cause that is what your folks call 'casualties of war'I believe that the article answers your question: "an unknown woman jumped out from hiding behind a carport near Valarde's parking space, at the Vista Grove apartments near Southern Avenue and Val Vista Drive, threw acid in her face and on her chest, then ran away."
in fact I believe there are three! except when one god died and then you were left with two..'Your god'. Are there two? And yes, I do believe that He loves Hitler, but I have no right to judge his soul- only God does. Hitler probably had mental problems, which could have affected his moral reasoning, or maybe he repented at death and is now being purified in Purgatory (I won't describe Purgatory in this post) or he may have rejected God's mercy and been sent to hell.
In fact I have spent my youth in a catholic school, I am well aware of your masses, your services and your beliefs, I was wondering if you could sum it up in something a bit more sensical than love that ends up with folks eternally in the abyss!If you want to know this from a Catholic perspective, you would need to read the Bible and then read the Catechism as there is too much to write.
Do you find questions about your absurd assertions intolerant?That was a funny statement to make. Do you like others to be aware of your religious intolerance?
In totality what I have written is an expose of ChristianityHalf of what I wrote wasn't to do with this thread because half of what is being said is insults about Christianity.
It doesn't bother me one bit if you view all Muslims as terrorists.. that is a definition your govt. concocted to separate Quran from Sunnah and shelf Islam as some sort of weekend relic, much akin to Christianity, but such will never be the case, because Islam is preserved by God and not the creation of idle men who were visited by a dead god with a message that contradicts his earlier scriptures!That man was creepy. But saying that all Christians are like that is like me saying that all Muslims support terrorism. Do understand what reasoning you have just used?
how do they reconcile anything in Christianity?...by doing mental acrobatics until you are so confused...you give up understanding it.....I don't "get it"---why are Christians so fixated on this "unconditional love" bussiness anyway?
They have to.
"unconditional love" is a by product of "jesus died to absolve human sins"
Even if their own scripture does not support the idea.
even if they contradict each other that makes your head spinning.
While "jesus died to absolve human sins" is itself a by product of the 3-in-1 god concept.
You can thank Paul and his story (on the way to damascus) for that.
It is unacceptable to be openly obnoxious, I am not sure how many western counterparts are OK with that either, but we don't value vulgarity even if your women do!I'm sorry, Vale's. I won't call you sweetheart.
You learn something new every day, hope this one sticks with you!I never knew that word was offensive, but I guess it is in Muslim culture, and it's not really surprising.
lol a mangod worshiper telling others of brainwashing? .. that is fresh, and thanks for the hearty chuckle!I only brought up that other stuff because I was trying to be as random as you. "Christians are starting wars against Muslim countries", which is absolutely not true. You've been brain washed in the worst way. Not only that but it has ZERO to do with this topic.
So Jesus wasn't god do I understand you correctly? because Jesus was human and according to you a human who died after a night in prayers to himself failed to avail him!God IS NOT human. He does have negative humanly emotions.
lol.. so if someone burns you alive right now and keeps replacing your skin over and over so you feel the pain and (for eternity) while professing love for you, you'd be OK with it? Christians really are a hilarious bunch a hypocritical bunch as well but hilarious mostly!You can punish someone (send them to hell) and still love them.
No, you worship a man named Jesus!We both worship the God of Abraham.
It is actually not, everything about your religion is paganistic, from the celebrations to the attributes you assign to him!That whole "Christian evolved from Paganism" is a pretty weak arguement as well.
work on your syntax -- your grammar seem to degenerate along with your ideology (if that is at all possible)!Supposedly the virgin birth was taken from Paganism, so if that mean we stole that from Paganism, that mean Y'ALL got it from US.
In Islam, does God love everybody?
In the Qur'an, Allaah (swt) constantly speaks about the struggle between truth and falsehood (often likened to the difference between light and darkness) and the separation between believers and disbelievers. They have distinguishing characertistics in this world, and in the Hereafter the separation shall become even more apparent on the Day of Judgement and of course through Heaven and Hell.God is not like humans. He is not capable of hating anyone.
Not alike are the blind (disbelievers in Islamic Monotheism) and the seeing (believers in Islamic Monotheism).
Nor are (alike) darkness (disbelief) and light (Belief in Islamic Monotheism).
Nor are (alike) the shade and the sun's heat.
Nor are (alike) the living (i.e. the believers) and the dead (i.e. the disbelievers). Verily, Allah makes whom He wills to hear, but you cannot make hear those who are in graves.
[35: 19-22]
I was kinda wondering this.
That whole "Christian evolved from Paganism" is a pretty weak arguement as well. Supposedly the virgin birth was taken from Paganism, so if that mean we stole that from Paganism, that mean Y'ALL got it from US.
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