Interesting video regarding Hijab.

[أبو سليمان عمر]

Show me a verse which describes hair as a principal feature of beauty

A verse has been show to cover beauty ... 59. O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allâh is Ever Oft*Forgiving, Most Merciful. quran 33 56
31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islâm), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allâh to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful. quran 24 31

and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)
The veil (khimaar) is that which comes down from the head and covers the face, and the jilbaab is an outer garment with which a woman covers herself, leaving no part of her body showing.

 

[Thinker]

Allah orders us to pray in the Quran, i think we can all agree with that...but does he show us how to pray? !

Maybe he didn't show you how to pray because God doesn't mind how you stand or which way you face so long as you pray!

 

[أبو سليمان عمر]

Maybe he didn't show you how to pray because God doesn't mind how you stand or which way you face so long as you pray!

we are to follow Quran and Sunnah (the ways of the prophet peace be upon him) do u understand that that is what Allah ordered
(a) Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allaah . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:80] Allaah described obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him) as being a part of obedience to Him. Then He made a connection between obedience to Him and obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him): “O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:59]

(b) Allaah warns us not to go against the Prophet (peace be upon him), and states that whoever disobeys him will be doomed to eternal Hell. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “. . . And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [al-Nur 24:63]

(c) Allaah has made obedience to His Prophet a religious duty; resisting or opposing it is a sign of hypocrisy: “”But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you [Muhammad] judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.” [al-Nisaa’ 4:65]

(d) Allaah commands His slaves to respond to Him and His Messenger: “O you who believe! Answer Allaah (by obeying Him) and (His) Messenger when he calls you to that which will give you life . . .” [al-Anfaal 8:24]

(e) Allaah also commands His slaves to refer all disputes to him: “. . . (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allaah and His Messenger . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:59]

 

[Thinker]

This statement is completely baseless.

I might say the exact opposite about women in eastern countries and cultures.

wearing a hijab causes people to judge you by the way you look – YES IT DOES
could you explain why?

Surely you must accept that people judge you on what they see and they see what you wear and make judgements (right or wrong). The woman in the interview (wearing the hijab) said that she didn't want to be judged on how she looked as though people judged people on by the hair on their head!!

 

[Thinker]

wearing hijab to please Allah can only be good thing, to choose modesty and take yourself out of the public eye for Him is a beuatiful thing and requires strength. May Allah bless those who choose to cover up

You're just repeating the party line!!

 

[أبو سليمان عمر]

You're just repeating the party line!!

Tirmidhi with a SAHIH chain reports...
"Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said “All of a woman is ‘awrah.” (Shaikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid quotes this hadith narrated by Tirmidhi with a sahih isnaad and says this is a direct hadith from Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam )

Abu Dawood Book 32, Hadith # 4090
Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu'minin (Radhiallaahu Ánha): When the verse "That they should cast their outer garments over their persons" was revealed, the women of Ansar came out as if they had crows over their heads by wearing outer garments.
Abu Dawood Book 32, Hadith # 4091
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin (Radhiallaahu Ánha) "May Allah have mercy on the early immigrant women. When the verse "That they should draw their veils over their bosoms" was revealed, they tore their thick outer garments and made veils from them. Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalanee, who is known as Ameer Al-Mu'mineen in the field of Hadith, said that the phrase, "covered themselves", in the above Hadith means that they "covered their faces". [Fath Al-Bari].

Abu Dawood Book 10, Hadith # 1829
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: (Radhiallaahu Ánha) who said, "The riders would pass us while we were with the Messenger of Allah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam). When they got close to us, we would draw our outer cloak from our heads over our faces. When they passed by, we would uncover our faces.
Recorded by Ahmad, Abu Dawood and Ibn Majah, Narrated 'Aisha. [In his work Jilbab al-Marah al-Muslimah, al-Albani states (p. 108) that it is hasan due to corroborating evidence. Also, in a narration from Asma {who was not the wife of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam)}

Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 72, Hadith # 715
Narrated 'Ikrima (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) narrates "Rifa'a divorced his wife whereupon 'AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. 'Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil." It is a very long hadith but the point is the women of Sahaba wore the full veil.

 

[Thinker]

31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islâm), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allâh to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful. quran 24 31

and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)
The veil (khimaar) is that which comes down from the head and covers the face, and the jilbaab is an outer garment with which a woman covers herself, leaving no part of her body showing.

Which is the verse of the Qu'ran which say nothing should be added and nothing should be taken away. What you have posted above has been added to; that is a sin. The correct verse is . . . .

31. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.

But even with your amended version of the verse there is still no mention of hair and the hijab worn today looks nothing like the covering worn by Muhammad's wives.

 

[Thinker]

we are to follow Quran and Sunnah

So why don't Muslim women wear the same style of covering worn by Muhammad's wives??

 

[Thinker]

Tirmidhi with a SAHIH chain reports...
"Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said “All of a woman is ‘awrah.” (Shaikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid quotes this hadith narrated by Tirmidhi with a sahih isnaad and says this is a direct hadith from Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam )

Abu Dawood Book 32, Hadith # 4090
Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu'minin (Radhiallaahu Ánha): When the verse "That they should cast their outer garments over their persons" was revealed, the women of Ansar came out as if they had crows over their heads by wearing outer garments.
Abu Dawood Book 32, Hadith # 4091
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin (Radhiallaahu Ánha) "May Allah have mercy on the early immigrant women. When the verse "That they should draw their veils over their bosoms" was revealed, they tore their thick outer garments and made veils from them. Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalanee, who is known as Ameer Al-Mu'mineen in the field of Hadith, said that the phrase, "covered themselves", in the above Hadith means that they "covered their faces". [Fath Al-Bari].

Abu Dawood Book 10, Hadith # 1829
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: (Radhiallaahu Ánha) who said, "The riders would pass us while we were with the Messenger of Allah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam). When they got close to us, we would draw our outer cloak from our heads over our faces. When they passed by, we would uncover our faces.
Recorded by Ahmad, Abu Dawood and Ibn Majah, Narrated 'Aisha. [In his work Jilbab al-Marah al-Muslimah, al-Albani states (p. 108) that it is hasan due to corroborating evidence. Also, in a narration from Asma {who was not the wife of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam)}

Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 72, Hadith # 715
Narrated 'Ikrima (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) narrates "Rifa'a divorced his wife whereupon 'AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. 'Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil." It is a very long hadith but the point is the women of Sahaba wore the full veil.

Please explain to me how any of the above describes the garment we now know as the hijab or for that matter the niqab? At best these hadith (and I don't know how strong they are) suggest that a womans face is the feature of beauty she should not display and that she should wear a garment which is a large shawls of the style worn by modern day Indian women.

 

[أبو سليمان عمر]

Please explain to me how any of the above describes the garment we now know as the hijab or for that matter the niqab? At best these hadith (and I don't know how strong they are) suggest that a womans face is the feature of beauty she should not display and that she should wear a garment which is a large shawls of the style worn by modern day Indian women.

you really dont get it do you HIJAB IS COVERING WHAT THEY WEAR NOW IS COVERING IS IT NOT

 

[Thinker]

you really dont get it do you HIJAB IS COVERING WHAT THEY WEAR NOW IS COVERING IS IT NOT

HIJAB IS COVERING WHAT THEY WEAR NOW IS COVERING IS IT NOT?

What does that mean??

 

[Tony]

Thinker, what does repeating party line mean. I have so much respect for those who cover up for Allah, and what I posted is what I feel

 

[أبو سليمان عمر]

HIJAB IS COVERING WHAT THEY WEAR NOW IS COVERING IS IT NOT?

What does that mean??

im saying doesnt matter what it is called long as the cover them self Hijab niqab jalbiya what ever it is called it is Hijab a covering

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Hair, eyes , body shape and facial features all are signs of beauty, psychologically speaking. Funnilly enough they are all covered via hijab/niqab/jilbab. Clever innit?

Only niqab and a jilbaba, hijab itself no.
and only the taliban burqa, the one with the net, covers the eyes.
And I don't consider covering clever.

 

[aamirsaab]

...
And I don't consider covering clever.

I meant the fact that those ''beauty spots'' are all covered via the Islamic dress code is clever. There is a reason for the hijab/jilbab/niqab and covering the beauty is quite clearly it.

For a 1400 year old religion to have a ruling for that (and also one that works in conjunction with others surrounding the topic of lowering ones gaze), would take a certain level of intelligence. Ergo, it is clever.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

I meant the fact that those ''beauty spots'' are all covered via the Islamic dress code is clever. There is a reason for the hijab/jilbab/niqab and covering the beauty is quite clearly it.

For a 1400 year old religion to have a ruling for that (and also one that works in conjunction with others surrounding the topic of lowering ones gaze), would take a certain level of intelligence. Ergo, it is clever.

Puting a bag on something beautiful isn't clever.
Puting a bag on only half of the population even less so!

 

[أبو سليمان عمر]

Puting a bag on something beautiful isn't clever.
Puting a bag on only half of the population even less so!

u know what please Allah is way way more important then thinking about pleasing you it is what it is no one asked you to put it on
oh and pleasing Allah IS VERY VERY CLEVER WISE SMART NOT PLEASING HIM IS WHAT IS IGNORANT

 

[Najm]

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Some really good posts on this thread. MarshaAllah!!

Its just a reminder. We must not forget about the importance of Islam and what it teaches us. The importance of Shahada. The importance of Tawheed. The importance of Taqwa. etc etc

One must have internal and external hijab. One must have taqwa.

If a one has taqwa then they will not approach the opposite member. If one has taqwa, then wearing hijab is VERY important. If one has taqwa, then they will lower their gaze. If one has taqwa, then they will following Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala)'s commands.

Hijab is just one of the important criteria's. On its own, it has a good effect. But put it with everything else (Taqwa, manners, modesty etc), then its the best, its BRILLIANT!!! Alhamdulillah!!

FiAmaaniAllah

 

[أبو سليمان عمر]

Just wanted to post this since you mentioned taqwa hope you enjoy
The meaning of taqwa was clarified in a statement made by `Umar ibn Al-Khattab, the second caliph after Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). `Umar compared being God-conscious to a person going through a narrow path with thorns while he is trying to snatch his clothes in order to protect himself from any harm. In Arabic, clothing is used as a metaphor for a person’s character and the thorns are a metaphor for the temptations in life, such as greed and wanting to get money from any source whether legitimate or illegitimate, or temptation towards illicit relationships. This similitude means that the person goes through life trying to protect his moral and pure character, which was endowed on him by God, from all other diversions, deviations, or temptations that surround him.
God-consciousness is the core of taqwa because God-consciousness is acknowledging, feeling, and realizing God’s presence at all times, and knowing that He is looking after you and knows what you are doing and even what your soul whispers to you. This feeling results in trying to go through life according to God’s orders and being ashamed of doing wrong in His presence, which is at all times.

 

[Najm]

Just wanted to post this since you mentioned taqwa hope you enjoy
The meaning of taqwa was clarified in a statement made by `Umar ibn Al-Khattab, the second caliph after Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). `Umar compared being God-conscious to a person going through a narrow path with thorns while he is trying to snatch his clothes in order to protect himself from any harm. In Arabic, clothing is used as a metaphor for a person’s character and the thorns are a metaphor for the temptations in life, such as greed and wanting to get money from any source whether legitimate or illegitimate, or temptation towards illicit relationships. This similitude means that the person goes through life trying to protect his moral and pure character, which was endowed on him by God, from all other diversions, deviations, or temptations that surround him.
God-consciousness is the core of taqwa because God-consciousness is acknowledging, feeling, and realizing God’s presence at all times, and knowing that He is looking after you and knows what you are doing and even what your soul whispers to you. This feeling results in trying to go through life according to God’s orders and being ashamed of doing wrong in His presence, which is at all times.

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

SubhaanAllah!! Excellent post!!

For the person that mentioned the face and eyes being the most beautiful part. Maybe you are right but even then....


A sister is protecting(hijab) her beauty, while a brother is looking away(lowering gaze) from her beauty! And the sister and brother having taqwa will mean they will stay away from each other rather than come towards each other.

Alhamdulillah! May Allah provide us with Taqwa. Ameen

FiAmaaniAllah