Is Allah going to put non-muslims in heaven?

[~Zaria~]

^^ Yes, but what about those Christians/ Hindus/ other polytheists who are practising the religion of their fore-fathers - simply because they have never been invited to Islam.

In my country - muslims comprise of ~2% of the total population.

And being a 3rd world country, there are many people who may have 'heard about a religion called Islam' - but, honestly do not know anything more than this.

I am often stopped and asked regarding my dress and appearance - often the question is: 'What religion do you follow, that makes you dress in this manner?'
Which shows, that the person has absolutely no knowledge of Islam in itself.

If the message has not reached the person, then surely he can not be accountable for rejecting the truth, as he hasnt had the opportunity to do so.

In these cases, Allah (subhanawataála) will judge, and what lies in their hearts will be apparent.

Our Rabb is THE most loving and THE most merciful.
He has given us soo many opportunities to earn rewards - even smiling at another brother/ sister is charity!
He does not desire to fuel Jahannum with His creation.

Whoever reaches hell-fire, will be those who are truly deserving of it - after being judged by the most fair, compassionate and merciful of all Judges.

:wasalamex

 

[~Zaria~]

I am often stopped and asked regarding my dress and appearance - often the question is: 'What religion do you follow, that makes you dress in this manner?'
Which shows, that the person has absolutely no knowledge of Islam in itself.

So, I stand corrected.....

I thought I would share my short story:
I was just at the hardware store, and the first thing that one of the assistants says to me is: 'Why are you hiding your face? I want to see you!' (its amazing how people desire to see things once they are hidden! lol!)

So I say - 'its because I follow a religion that teaches us to dress in this manner....'
Usually I go on to tell the person about Islam, but today I thought I would put my 'hypothesis' to the test

I ask him: 'Do you know what religion it is, that I am following?
He says: 'Yes, you are a muslim'.
So I ask: 'Do you know what Islam teaches us?'
And he says: 'You believe in the quraan and in Allah....yes I do know....'

Which kinda surprised me!

On first impressions, I would have guessed that he probably did not know very much about Islam.....

In any case, I still tried to tell him a little about the Oneness of God, and that we live according to the commands that He has taught us via His messengers, before I left.

Which also made me realise something else - VERY IMPORTANTLY:
To ensure that you ALWAYS have in your possession, a copy of an English-translated Quraan and some leaflets that explain the basics of Islam.
You never know when someone is going to enquire about your deen.....and this is the moment to try and give dawah to the person - when the person, himself takes an interest in your faith. (unfortunately, today I missed out on this opportunity imsad )

Im not the type to speak about religion to anyone that I meet......But, when someone makes the first move - we should seize the opportunity to welcome him and teach him as much as we can.
The person may be asking about your beard/ dress/ fasting/ prayers, etc......but ultimately our role is to lead the conversation towards understanding the core beliefs of Islam - and this may be your only chance to do so!

It is often not possible to say all that there is to say in a short encounter.
But if we leave the person with more information and a translated copy of the quraan, in shaa Allah, it may be the means of guiding him towards the truth.

And thats my story for today..... : )


:wasalam:

 

[crimsontide06]

Someone asked me once "You pray to the moon don't you??" So yeah, people have no clear understanding of Islam...

 

[sister herb]

Salam alaykum

Thanks for sharing your story, sister.

 

[MustafaMc]

I was just at the hardware store, and the first thing that one of the assistants says to me is: 'Why are you hiding your face? I want to see you!' (its amazing how people desire to see things once they are hidden! lol!)

So, I understand you wear the niqab. Has that caused you any problems?

I'm not the type to speak about religion to anyone that I meet......But, when someone makes the first move - we should seize the opportunity to welcome him and teach him as much as we can.
The person may be asking about your beard/ dress/ fasting/ prayers, etc......but ultimately our role is to lead the conversation towards understanding the core beliefs of Islam - and this may be your only chance to do so!

Jazak Allahu khayran, for your courage to be known publicly as a Muslim and to share a bit about Islam with people you meet. That was an interesting approach. This reminded me of a conversation I had with my uncle (WWII vet) before he died and I was surprised that he knew I needed to make pilgrimage to Mecca.

 

[~Zaria~]

:salamext:

So, I understand you wear the niqab. Has that caused you any problems?

Alhamdulillah, its been a year since I adopted the niqab.....and now I cant imagine life without it, subhanAllah.

I cant say that it has caused me any problems (yet), but the responses that I have received along the way have been interesting....

I work in the medical sector, and to be honest, I was soo concerned about the reactions of those that I care for, that it initially prevented me from wearing it at work.
But now that I do, Ive realised that the fears were my own.
Alhamdulillah, the majority of people that I see, do not have a problem with conversing with me in this way.
Even non-muslims, have been quite open and friendly about it (Im not sure if its because Im kinda petite/ small-built and so, perhaps I look less intimidating/ threatening).....Alhamdulillah, its been the means of people enquiring about islam as well.

Interestingly, Ive had the most 'negativity' from my muslim collegues!
Ive had muslim males (who barely know me), come to tell me that this is not part of Islam.
My one muslim friend literally began banging his head on the desk (in jest) when I first wore it to work (saying - 'pls remove that piece of clothe from your face, lol....)
Because its not very easy to try to explain the different interpretations regarding the niqaab, I usually take down their email address and send them a copy of brother Hamza's article in 'Niqaab: An Integral Part of Islam' : )
(Brother Hamza - if you are reading this: JazakumAllah khair! You have no idea how useful your article has been to me!)

Its not always successful.....as one needs to be willing to change their perspectives on a matter, before any change can occur. Many muslims today, are unfortunately not wanting to let go of their own notions/ beliefs in Islam - sometimes, even when there is concensus on an issue.

I think I feel the most 'uncomfortable' when I am in a group of 'classy' people - e.g. at conferences/ meetings. Everyone is dressed to kill, and Im usually the only one who is dressed in this way. Perhaps its my own self-confidence......but I just feel that I get 'stranger' looks at these types of places.
Fortunately, Ive stopped caring about what people think : )
All that really matters, is to obtain Allah (subhanawataála)'s pleasure.

Jazak Allahu khayran, for your courage to be known publicly as a Muslim and to share a bit about Islam with people you meet. That was an interesting approach. This reminded me of a conversation I had with my uncle (WWII vet) before he died and I was surprised that he knew I needed to make pilgrimage to Mecca.

Alhamdulillah, Ive learnt this approach at a course called 'Dawah Power' by ustaadh Hamza Tzorteis.

When I have a little more time, I'll start a topic about in shaa Allah.


:wasalam:

 

[Urban Turban]

Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Raji'oon - to this thread.

For sure Allah is the judge, but Allah rabbul izzat right in this world has granted us the Quran and Ahadith to judge ourselves - if Allah is the judge and he is going to ultimately decide who goes in and who isn't - then why quote the Quran and Ahadith, leave it to Allah and lead your lives as you are leading.

If being good was everything - read it again please, if being good was everything then why is calling people to Islam needed?

Why is so necessary to believe in and read and lead 'There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger' (peace and immense blessings be upon him) ?

Why were the Prophets (peace be upon him) sent?

We think there were no good and merciful caring Christians before Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) - and no good pious Jews before Prophet Jesus Christ (Isa) (Peace be upon him) etc etc ?

Like I said before... Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Raji'oon - to this thread.

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A Muslim is someone who communicates the Commandments and Promises and Warnings of Allah honestly, as has been revealed in the Book & Sunnah, not someone who succumbs to political correctness and plants doubts in peoples minds, and prevents people from the path of Allah.

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The Aqidah of the Ahlus Sunnah on who will be punished in the inferno and for how long, as stated in the Quran, Hadith, Teachings of Sahaba, and the Ijma’ of the scholars:

1. Sinful Muslims of the Ahlus Sunnah – for a temporary period of time to chastise them of their sins.

2. Those ahlul bid’ah (people of innovation) of the Muslims whose beliefs were somewhat corrupt and misled, but NOT to the extent of them becoming kafir – for a temporary period of time to chastise them of their sins and corrupt beliefs are a greater sin than corrupt actions.

3. ALL Kafirs – whether they are those Ahlul bid’ah whose beliefs became corrupt to the extent of them becoming Kafirs (like the Isma’ilis and Alevis for instance); or other kafirs like Christians, Jews, Atheists, Buddhists etc. who heard the Prophet’s name and his call to worship Allah alone – they shall stay in the inferno unceasingly, for ever, their punishment shall neither be lessened, nor shall they ever leave the inferno, there shall be NO intercessors for them either – the Quran says this in black and white.

We pray to Allah to grant us a life on Iman and a death on Iman, and to let us be benefitted by His Beloved Messenger’s intercession on the day of judgment. Aamiin bi hurmati Nabiyyihil ameen.

:wa:

 

[Urban Turban]

Note this please:

A Muslim is someone who communicates the Commandments and Promises and Warnings of Allah honestly, as has been revealed in the Book & Sunnah, not someone who succumbs to political correctness and plants doubts in peoples minds, and prevents people from the path of Allah.

 

[MustafaMc]

Assalamu alaikum, Brother Urban Turban. You bring some good points, but I also see that your assuming people's motives for what they write and your labeling them as munafiqun is going too far. There is no doubt that the only acceptable religion with Allah (swt) is Islam, but there are several ayat in the Qur'an that can be interpreted as leaving a window to Paradise open to some People of the Book. Being politically correct has nothing to do with this statement.

 

[Urban Turban]

Assalamu alaikum, Brother Urban Turban. You bring some good points, but I also see that your assuming people's motives for what they write and your labeling them as munafiqun is going too far. There is no doubt that the only acceptable religion with Allah (swt) is Islam, but there are several ayat in the Qur'an that can be interpreted as leaving a window to Paradise open to some People of the Book. Being politically correct has nothing to do with this statement.

:wa:

I don't think I'd be adding to my previous posts (and some of which has been edited now by the mods - the responsibility is now on their shoulders) - the gist of which says that without the Shahadah (applicable as of last 1400 years) - there's no going in - and that's the opinion of the Ahlus Sunnah.

'The people of the book' of the present have no chance.

Who are doing the interpretations? Us? May Allah save us.

Of-course all those who believed in the time of previous Prophets (peace be upon them) and followed them are true believers too.

Hope this clears.

(and regarding the Munafiqun comment, we pass judgements based on the zaahir (whats apparent) - such diluted versions of Islam which they present from their writings is unacceptable - by the way those are comments of an Ahlus sunnah Scholar.

Period.

 

[IAmZamzam]

Every time I think I can't possibly become any more more suspicious of the phrase "politically correct" I hear someone utter it again...

I admit I may have missed something but I don't think I saw one single person here claim that "being good was everything". Planting doubt has nothing whatsoever to do with positively anything. We are simply stating our honest opinions. If you believe that anyone will be prevented from the path of Allah by a thread like this then you've got another thing coming. In fact if anything it's black-and-white, fire-and-brimstone attitudes like yours that actually turn people away. Do you really see it drawing people towards Islam? Really???

 

[Urban Turban]

Every time I think I can't possibly become any more more suspicious of the phrase "politically correct" I hear someone utter it again...

I admit I may have missed something but I don't think I saw one single person here claim that "being good was everything". Planting doubt has nothing whatsoever to do with positively anything. We are simply stating our honest opinions. If you believe that anyone will be prevented from the path of Allah by a thread like this then you've got another thing coming. In fact if anything it's black-and-white, fire-and-brimstone attitudes like yours that actually turn people away. Do you really see it drawing people towards Islam? Really???

Got work...later inshaAllah.

 

[NjmYqlb]

From what i learned it is quite simple to understand why people who do good but don't worship Allah will end up in Hell fire. Allah knows our deepest intentions, nothing is hidden from Him. On judgement day, when good deeds are presented, God will ask what was the intention of the good deed. People do good deeds for many reasons, to be praised by people, to please someone, forced by the company someone keeps or by the community or for a 'deity'. God will then show them that what they intended was fulfilled, they did get praised, their leaders and community were pleased, and those who worship other than Allah, He will tell them to ask their reward from whomever/whatever they worshiped and did their good deeds for. That day there will be no one who can help but Allah. So their good deeds become null and void.

That is what i learned, it is fair to let people ask their reward from whoever/whatever they deed their good deeds for, don't you think so? If anyone ignores Allah in this world, Allah will ignore them in the afterlife.

For those who never got any message about Allah from any source, i believe the answer is in Surah Asy-Syams (91:7-10). Everyone of us has a soul that will naturally long for God, those who follow their soul's guidance will succeed, those who corrupt it will fail. Some people call it conscience, it is the background feeling of right and wrong in the head.

Allah & His messenger knows best.

 

[Independent]

Everyone of us has a soul that will naturally long for God, those who follow their soul's guidance will succeed, those who corrupt it will fail.

Except that the overwhelming majority of those who find Islam just happen to be born in Muslim lands, into Muslim families. So it's not just a 'natural longing for God', something else has to be far more significant in the choice of religion.

That is what i learned, it is fair to let people ask their reward from whoever/whatever they deed their good deeds for, don't you think so?

If a particular non-Muslim does a good deed without looking for any reward at all, how does that make him/her less worthy than a particular Muslim who may have acted speciifcally in an attempt to benefit themselves on Judgement Day?

 

[glo]

If a particular non-Muslim does a good deed without looking for any reward at all, how does that make him/her less worthy than a particular Muslim who may have acted speciifcally in an attempt to benefit themselves on Judgement Day?

I can think of atheists who do good - not to please anybody or for any personal gain, but simply because in their hearts of hearts it FEELS RIGHT (of course I am making a certain amount of assumptions here, since only God knows peoples' true intentions).
But they (being atheists) certainly don't do good to please or worship God - that much is certain.

However, I sometimes wonder if people have God's laws out inside them and have a deeper god-given knowledge of what's right and wrong, even if they don't recognise it as god-given.

Perhaps the question should be "Do we need to WANT to please God to be ABLE to please God?"

 

[NjmYqlb]

Except that the overwhelming majority of those who find Islam just happen to be born in Muslim lands, into Muslim families. So it's not just a 'natural longing for God', something else has to be far more significant in the choice of religion.

There was a survey done in UK and US once, (i don't have the reference unfortunately since i saw the slides in a sermon without a paper to write on) where people were asked what qualities they liked in a leader, in their parents, siblings & acquaintances. In the list are various qualities like justice, fairness, strong, truthful, honest etc. These are all the qualities of God as taught in Islam, our soul longs for these qualities which is what God is. As to the choice of religion, prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said it is the parents' influence. You might be surprised how many so called Muslims are just following traditions of their parents and not what is taught in the Al-Quran and Sunnah. Yes there are more born Muslims than reverts but the rewards God give to people is according to the difficulties faced. It is more difficult for a non-Muslim to revert, so as i understand it everything good a revert does has stronger weight than born Muslims.

If a particular non-Muslim does a good deed without looking for any reward at all, how does that make him/her less worthy than a particular Muslim who may have acted speciifcally in an attempt to benefit themselves on Judgement Day?

Look deep enough there will be an intention to every deed. Say if someone does something good without wanting any reward, it probably would count as doing it for oneself, to make oneself feel good inside, so that is the reward or God would ask that someone to reward himself if he has any power to do so at that time. Acting/doing good for the sake of pleasing God is what Islam is. Islam is total submission/surrender to God's will

Allah & His messenger knows best.

 

[Independent]

Look deep enough there will be an intention to every deed.

I think you could question any motivation if you go deep enough - that's a complexity of human nature, not a religious issue. But if you're saying that a good deed is only a good deed, or only has moral value, when it's performed by a Muslim, then that's quite a statement.

It is more difficult for a non-Muslim to revert, so as i understand it everything good a revert does has stronger weight than born Muslims.

Nevertheless they are (relatively) very few. Therefore you could argue that there is something in human nature that draws us to a religion, but not that our nature draws us to Islam in particular, as you have done above.

However, I sometimes wonder if people have God's laws out inside them and have a deeper god-given knowledge of what's right and wrong, even if they don't recognise it as god-given.

In effect that's exactly what Glo is arguing here.

 

[crimsontide06]

I told a devout Christian friend my opinion(you can read on the 1st page) and she said if that's true then there would be no purpose in religion.

 

[Independent]

I told a devout Christian friend my opinion(you can read on the 1st page) and she said if that's true then there would be no purpose in religi

I agree with what you said. In fact, I'll go back and 'like' it!

 

[YusufNoor]

http://seekersguidance.org/ans-blog...rostitute-who-gives-water-to-the-thirsty-dog/