Christ is alive and present to his people.How do you follow Christ? Other than the bible what record of his words/actions do Christians have?
Christ is alive and present to his people.How do you follow Christ? Other than the bible what record of his words/actions do Christians have?
Christ is alive and present to his people.
I'm actually only culturally Jewish. Religiously I'm a Theist. Why? Because every religion says their way is the right way "and screw everyone else".
I'm actually only culturally Jewish. Religiously I'm a Theist. Why? Because every religion says their way is the right way "and screw everyone else".
I never really got the "screw everyone else" vibe from Islam. I find Islam humbling because its followers do not assume that they'll automatically get paradise just because they are Muslim. Reading the Qur'an I did not get the vibe that just because someone is a Christian or Jew that they'd be screwed either...
"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers." -Qur'an 3:85- This I do not believe.
Lily said:That is a non-answer..
Example: the christians who come to this forum, and have been shown that worshiping a man god is wrong and endless evidence have been presented to them that their belief is false, and evidence for the truth of Islam have been presented, and yet they reject all evidence and hang on to their baseless belief out of arrogance, whims, desires, what-have-you, do you not think they the ones who wrong themselves?[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]
You quoted the ayat (in english) without having full understanding. By "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam", it means if someone is properly introduced to Islam, and see that Islam is the truth, and yet still reject it for whatever reason (eg. because they follow the religion of their forefathers, because they don't like some rules, etc), then they will be among the losers. Example: the christians who come to this forum, and have been shown that worshiping a man god is wrong and endless evidence have been presented to them that their belief is false, and evidence for the truth of Islam have been presented, and yet they reject all evidence and hang on to their baseless belief out of arrogance, whims, desires, what-have-you, do you not think they the ones who wrong themselves?
Yes, it should.Shouldn't it be uniform?
No more than the muslims who the Christians invite to "take Jesus as their personal savior and show endless evidence that their muslim belief is false, and the truth of Christainity but hang on to their baseless belief out of arrogance, whims, desires, what have you"" etc...
That kind of reasoning really does run in all directions.
That's why I eventually quit going to church the first time. I was sickened by the lies and the hypocrisy.
You quoted the ayat (in english) without having full understanding.
By "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam", it means if someone is properly introduced to Islam, and see that Islam is the truth, and yet still reject it for whatever reason (eg. because they follow the religion of their forefathers, because they don't like some rules, etc), then they will be among the losers.
Example: the christians who come to this forum, and have been shown that worshiping a man god is wrong and endless evidence have been presented to them that their belief is false, and evidence for the truth of Islam have been presented, and yet they reject all evidence and hang on to their baseless belief out of arrogance, whims, desires, what-have-you, do you not think they the ones who wrong themselves?
I never really got the "screw everyone else" vibe from Islam. I find Islam humbling because its followers do not assume that they'll automatically get paradise just because they are Muslim. Reading the Qur'an I did not get the vibe that just because someone is a Christian or Jew that they'd be screwed either...
Actually I was inspired in this by a video I saw on Qu'ran Weekly channel at YouTube last night. Nouman Ali Khan was talking about your words and how speech is the greatest gift from Allah and how we should not taint that by usng ugly speech.
One thing that does bother me about Christianity are all of these "pseudo-Christians" that pray the prayer to accept Jesus and then go do whatever they want. I have to admit, I was one for a long time. Do whatever you want and not walk the walk and don't worry about it because hey, you have Jesus. You don't have to do anything God tells you because hey, you have Jesus. Go to church once, maybe twice a week, and the rest of the time you do what you want because hey, you have Jesus.
That's why I eventually quit going to church the first time. I was sickened by the lies and the hypocrisy.
I never really got the "screw everyone else" vibe from Islam. I find Islam humbling because its followers do not assume that they'll automatically get paradise just because they are Muslim. Reading the Qur'an I did not get the vibe that just because someone is a Christian or Jew that they'd be screwed either...
One thing that does bother me about Christianity are all of these "pseudo-Christians" that pray the prayer to accept Jesus and then go do whatever they want. I have to admit, I was one for a long time. Do whatever you want and not walk the walk and don't worry about it because hey, you have Jesus. You don't have to do anything God tells you because hey, you have Jesus. Go to church once, maybe twice a week, and the rest of the time you do what you want because hey, you have Jesus.
That's why I eventually quit going to church the first time. I was sickened by the lies and the hypocrisy.
Christ is alive and present to his people.
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