List why I was not satisfied with my Ex religion

[Who Am I?]

Riana posted some good things, but I am not sure that I agree with this one.

Another important issue is the JIHAD, THEY said Jesus Preached PEACE but that's totally wrong
LUKE
12:51-2 "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three."
14:26 "If any man come unto me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
19:27 "But those mine enemies which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
MATTHEW
10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I come not to send peace, but a sword."
10:35-6 "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household."

I think that the "sword" in this case is figurative and not literal. Jesus means that his message will divide families and communities, thus he will "bring the sword" and turn friends and brothers against each other regarding his message. I don't think Jesus was talking about bringing war and destruction.

But I could be wrong. This is just my opinion on the subject. Otherwise, I agree with what you said, sister.

 

[Grace Seeker]

There is no Single Verse in the Bible that Jesus said "Worship me, God & I are equal in every sense"

This would be more relevant if one is working from the premise that Jesus spoke directly with regard to all truth, and that nothing that he did not speak directly about should be considered truth. But let us test whether that theory is one that Muslims actually hold to.

Many Muslims believe that the Bible prophecies the coming of Muhammad (pbuh). They do so based on verses like:
"I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him." (Deuteronomy 18:18)
and
"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—" (John 14:16)
Yet, these are not clear and direct statements that say, "Muhammad is God's prophet." Indeed, in my opinion, it takes some linguistic gymnatics to believe that these speak of Muhammad at all. Nonetheless, I recognize that though we may have a difference of opinion on that issue, that Muslims do indeed genuinely see Muhammad mentioned in these verses. The point of that being Muslims are quite ready to accept as a truth of the scriptures that which they have inferred, however indirectly and obliquely the claim is found. Thus, for Muslims to ask for a direct quote with regard to Jesus is to ask for something more of Chrisitain theology than they ask of an Islamic reading of the same scriptures.


There are plenty of references made in scripture to Jesus' diety. Some are directly made by the apostles and other New Testament authors. And in the actions of Jesus we see such claims acted out as surely as if they were the direct quote asked for. From these testimonies and then from the indirect words of Jesus, we infer that it is true Jesus is the divine being incarnated in a human body. He and the Father are one, not just metaphysically, but even ontologically, for according to John he was not only in the beginning with God, but he was God and it was through him that all things were made that have been made (John 1:1-3, see also Colossians 1:16 for this concept expressed by yet another NT author).



And with regard to the "sword" mentioned above, I would have to echo King of Nines comments on it being a figurative not a literal sword. But I don't think that negates your argument about Jesus intoducing the idea of Jihad. The use of a figurative sword still indicates a struggle. I tend to think that the struggle is one that finds those who adhere to Jesus' followers rather than them initiating it -- for instance because they won't bow down to Ceasar -- but that doesn't lessen the reality of Jesus followers being called to be engaged in a very real struggle.


Keep thinking. I respect your efforts at this sort of analysis, just making note of a few points where we disagree with regard to our respective conclusions.

 

[Ramadhan]

Per usual, a christian pastor who advances biblical verses that agree with his belief while hiding other verses that are outright against what he believes in.
what's new.
when even a pastor could pick and choose what he likes from bible, what is different than from a buffet?

 

[Riana17]

Peace to all

Its nice to see you again Pastor, I dont mean to upset you, I just want to share the truth that I believe in but I dont mean to force anyone to believe in what I believe too, and Brother KoN, I respect your views, Jesus preached Jihad is not originally my opinion, I agree with scholars.

Anyhow, let us PLEASE PLEASE give chance and hear from someone who had Master of Divinity from Harvard University who was a sincere typical Christian and was exposed with the oldest bible, talking in public, not afraid to tell the truth in very calm way, pls lets have patience and watch this, its a bit long video but we all want the truth and its up to us to accept or not, Again Quran 2:256 There is no complusion in religion.

 

[Crystal]

Prophet Jesus also prayed to God which is strange if he was God. Too many contradictions in the bible regarding this issue. Have to say the quran is much clearer on the issue of Prophet Jesus and doesn't beat it around the bush.

 

[Riana17]

Prophet Jesus also prayed to God which is strange if he was God. Too many contradictions in the bible regarding this issue. Have to say the quran is much clearer on the issue of Prophet Jesus and doesn't beat it around the bush.

Salam Sister

The very mistake of Christians is fully relying on their Priest or the church, one cannot depend fate to others, we must work hard and discover and see it for ourselves.


Sister please see this, If you are truly interested in finding out the truth, in God's will this one will really help you

 

[Riana17]

Many Muslims believe that the Bible prophecies the coming of Muhammad (pbuh). They do so based on verses like:
"I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him." (Deuteronomy 18:18)

Peace be with you Pastor,

Those are some of the verses that are pretty understandable if does not appeal to you, I am with you, we should not have doubt or better have no religion at all.
So I would like to share you a verse which exactlymentions our beloved Prophet's (pbuh) name

Song of Solomon 5:16
"His mouth is most sweet: ye, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughter of Jerusalem."

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehrace Bayna Jerusalem."
חכו ממתקים וכלו מחמדים זה דודי וזה רעי בנות ירושלם׃

Aramaic, Arabic & Hebrew are sisters languages:

For example, English letter A & B are equal to Alif & Ba in Arabic while Aleph Beth in Hebrew alphabet

So when you translate a name Muhammadim (Hebrew) to Arabic it is equal to Muhammad or Muhammadin

Also you might say Muhammadim is not Muhammad

Arabic names have corresponding meaning and they are not like other foreign names (e.g. English name Tom or Tim doesnt have any meaning),

For example - my Name Riana or Rihanna means a good smell (herb)

Now while using the word 'smell' in a sentence, one should say
Riha رائحة

So when you write a sentence or engage in conversation, if one meant to say she is good smell she cant say "Ana (I am) Riana" she must use the word Riha (smell) because every Arabic people knows RIANA or RIHANNA is NAME of a person.

So now let's translate the "He is altogether lovely" to Arabic

انه هو كل شيء جميل معا
Enaho howa kola shayen jamelen ma3an

זה הכל ביחד יפה

One cannot return the altogether lovely to word MUHAMMAD or MUHAMMADIM even in its original text which is HEBREW
Finally let's translate the English word Muhammadim to Original Hebrew text, it would be
מחמדletters Mem, Het, Mem, Dalet

& in ARABIC it would be م ح م د
CONNECT the letters together it would be محمد
Letters Mem, Ha, Mem, Da

Note that both languages does not have vowels, so if I, myself (NON ARAB) read as Muhamed or Mahamad or Mahamed (MUHAMMADIM in Hebrew and Muhammadin in Arabic) - they are all correct in both languages and no other meaning for those names except a name of a person.

P.S. As I said there is no VOWELS in Hebrew and Arabic alphabets but there's something called tanween, kasrah, fatha, dhammah etc in this languages which is like vowel FOR CORRECT PRONUNCIATION for OUTSIDERS like us (note that native people do not use this even on OFFICIAL purpose because they know their system, they know that محمد
is not Mahumed or Mehamud or Mahamad, but it is Muhammad) ONLY YOU & I are acceptable by Arabs to read it in our way when KASRAH, fatha etc are not present because of course we dont know it)

NOW I WILL COMPLETE YOU THE MUHAMMADIN in ARABIC, note again pls, they are STILL 4LETTERS, no alibaba (cheating lol)
مُحَمَّدٍ
pls read from Left, the first CONSONANT (M) has to be read with to vowel O or U,
next consonant with A,
next repeat the CONSONANT letter & read with vowel A,
and the last to add IN in pronunciation

Muhammadin or Muhammadim is exactly Muhammad be it Hebrew or Arabic, but in gramatical sense - MUHAMMADIN is respectable word referring to Muhammad. E.g. Ellah (God in Hebrew) & Elohim or Yahweh -

Again what is YHWH in Hebrew?
The custom of substituting God's Hebrew name a high degree of respect and reverence. Yahweh in English means 'MY LORD'

another example, we address our Creator (Allah) as ALLAHU - I think Allahu Akbar is familiar to you, which means My God is Great

I have pasted the video here to hear it yourself and also for translation help, please use google or any site be it Jewish translation website.

Note: There are some Arabic words like names of the month that can be used as name of the person. e.g. RAMADHAN
In this way, you can figure out if a sentence is talking about the person or the holy month of Ramadhan i.e.
Shawwal comes after Ramadhan or Ramadhan focuses our sincerity to God.
Ramadhan prefers Brother Grace Seeker over Riana.


In this case
"His mouth is most sweet: ye, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughter of Jerusalem."

The above sentence is clearly talking about a PERSON, plus there is no other use for MUHAMMAD, some of the meanings of Muhammad are PRAISE (that's how they come up with ALTOGETHER LOVELY- hmm they praise our beloved Prophet) and other meaning is thanks

so a WORD Thanks derive from Muhammad when using in a statement is equal to NAHMUDOO... a most common words for thanks used on daily basis is SHOKRAN

SUPPOSE a person called 'JOHN GRACE', went to Spain - will he accept if Spanish people calls him 'Juan Gracia' or 'Lababo Gracia?' In my Country Gracia means blessings and also a name of a WOMAN, also Lababo means a sink, so if that's possible if John Grace visits my country I may call him Blessed Sink (or the other way round)

Or if my name is JAMES and I go to Italya will I accept if they call me GIACOMO?
Some people dont mind, but officially that's not possible suppose GIACOMO commits a crime, JAMES can surely deny he isnt GIACOMO

To conclude, Arabic is totally different from English or other languages.
And UNIVERSAL RULE: PASSPORT NAME is not translatable