'Lyrical terrorist' convicted for jihad poems

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All she has done is encourage murder.....is that really so much of a crime.

The Courts are acting like she's unstable or something. When has getting pleasure from watching journalists having their heads hacked off by a group of screaming fanatics become something other than a enjoyable pastime?
We don't lock up rappers for violent lyrics.

We only lock 'em up when they kill people.

Same with this girl. The thing is not the poetry, the thing is the bomb-making material. It astounds me how easily people (continue to) miss this huge elephant of incriminating evidence.

Come on, people. Use your heads.
 
I will realy on the courts, they have all the facts and know the laws.

They are not perfect but they are surly better than us with maybe 5% of the facts.

you are right we only have 5% of the facts because the other 95% are twisted by the media and sent out. That can be seen with the obvious misinterpretation and propaganda surrounding the word 'Jihad', 'Mujahadeen', 'Martyr' etc.

Its obvious the government is trying to create a climate of fear.
 
Don't rapper's something sing about killing gays?

Don't see them locked up....
 
Same with this girl. The thing is not the poetry, the thing is the bomb-making material. It astounds me how easily people (continue to) miss this huge elephant of incriminating evidence.

Come on, people. Use your heads.

yes, i've found this quite amazing also!
 
hola...

you two cannot possibly mean these things you are saying about liking her lyrics or believing this is peity... i do not know if any of this is a crime but it is terrifying to me that there are people like this girl who hates us that much and thinks about these horrible things. the word kaffir instantly frightens me for that reason

que Dios te bendiga

hello.
whether her actions are right or wrong, im not sure if you can really blame her for what she feels. what is a muslim supposed to feel seeing their brothers and sisters being opposed, and thats putting it nicely.
 
Where is the freedom of speech now?

Actually is there any freedom of speech for Muslims?
 
Oh My God, people please read, Muezzin said that its more about the how to build a bomb manuals.

I mean lets be honest we live in a time where Muslims should know the sensitivities of others, understandable sensitivities, I would never have a how to make a bomb manual anywhere near me, one because I dont want to make a bomb and two because it would cause people to think that am a terrorist.

Its common sense.

Disclaimer: I dont know if the sister had any manuals and I dont mean to refer to her in the post above, I dont know her and I dont think its right for me to talk of her. I hope she is a good muslims
 
Anyway...its just wrong to detain somebody for writing offensive lyrics.

Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
 
I read a bit of this thread and a couple things came to mind. One there is the usual "Oh the world is against us thing", this gets so old, listen if my neighbor thought I was a kuffar and was writing things like, "I like to see heads chopped off", etc., I would go and kill her myself, she blatantly said she supports al-qaeda in anyway possible, therefore she is an enemy, therefore she should either leave or die. She had bomb making material, she spoke of wishing to be on the front lines, etc., to me in light of recent events and given the obvious interest she has in terrorist activity these sort of things should be taken seriously. What are people supposed to do, wait until she blows herself up or takes someone elses life before we say "See, told ya so she was saying all along she was going to do it!". That is stupid, turn it into a "freedom of speech" case or a discrimination of Muslims case all you want but the bottom line is, in the time we are living in, where we live under a constant threat of terrorism, it isnt exactly something that someone should even so much as joke about unless they are looking for trouble. The girl is lucky she got off with such a light punishment, like I said, if I lived around someone who was actively involved in these activities I would probably try to kill them before they kill me.
 
I read a bit of this thread and a couple things came to mind. One there is the usual "Oh the world is against us thing", this gets so old, listen if my neighbor thought I was a kuffar and was writing things like, "I like to see heads chopped off", etc., I would go and kill her myself, she blatantly said she supports al-qaeda in anyway possible, therefore she is an enemy, therefore she should either leave or die. She had bomb making material, she spoke of wishing to be on the front lines, etc., to me in light of recent events and given the obvious interest she has in terrorist activity these sort of things should be taken seriously. What are people supposed to do, wait until she blows herself up or takes someone elses life before we say "See, told ya so she was saying all along she was going to do it!". That is stupid, turn it into a "freedom of speech" case or a discrimination of Muslims case all you want but the bottom line is, in the time we are living in, where we live under a constant threat of terrorism, it isnt exactly something that someone should even so much as joke about unless they are looking for trouble. The girl is lucky she got off with such a light punishment, like I said, if I lived around someone who was actively involved in these activities I would probably try to kill them before they kill me.

;D:scared: you sound a bit terrifying in your own right - a believer in "pre-emptive strikes".
on a more serious note, it is interesting that on this thread, if i remember right - it was mostly the muslims here who pointed out that this is far more serious than mere poetry or freedom of speech issues - she had bomb making material!
 
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What I don't get, is why people can't understand that She might be interested in it, not planning on how to make it!
 
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What I don't get, is why people can't understand that She might be interested in it, not planning on how to make it!

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I see where you are coming from but since she has already expressed positive interest with regards to terrorist activities it is understandably a huge concern - this added to her reading into the weaponary info is really the main reason she was convicted (at least I hope it was since the papers seemed to make it out like it was her poetry alone that got her the court order!).

p.s; my original argument with regards to free speech was relating to her poetry, which clearly is contained within the boundaries of freedom of speech. I readily condemn her however for having what seems to be some sort of obsession over the weapons just as I would condemn anyone else regardless of religion or gender.

This is what I was trying to get at originally.
 
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What I don't get, is why people can't understand that She might be interested in it, not planning on how to make it!
She wasn't just getting general information from, like, the Encyclopedia Britannica - she possessed specific 'how to' books on bomb-making and sniping.

As for killing someone because they write violent poems? Paranoiac. As well as illegal. By that logic, just about every big name rap artist right now would be a victim of vigilante justice.

Though I suppose it is kind of funny how everybody is still obsessessed with the ruddy poems. It might have to do with the fact that the thread title focuses on them, and the article itself dedicates more space to them than the bomb-making literature and sniping manual (to which it apportions a humble sentence).

But the media can do no wrong. Anyone who says otherwise is wearing a tinfoil hat. Obviously. And that's not a strawman argument, because if I say it, it's true, and if you say otherwise, you're dumb!

Danger, Will Robinson! Sarcasm!
 
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^ yep, you've both described the effects of islamaphobia, thats exactly the reason she got arrested and the rappers didnt

assalamu alaikum
 
^ yep, you've both described the effects of islamaphobia, thats exactly the reason she got arrested and the rappers didnt

assalamu alaikum
You're missing the point. I probably didn't make it clear enough in my crazy ranting.

You should not be arrested for writing an offensive poem or lyrics, or drawing an offensive cartoon. You're not really posing a threat to the public just through those expressions. Maybe you're a bit loony or something, maybe mentally unstable, maybe people should keep on eye on you or maybe you're just a nasty piece of genetic material, but to arrest you for that work, in an of itself? Crazy talk!

But you would pose a threat to the public if, in light of the above, you also have manuals about making bombs and sniping.

The hand to hand combat book I would let slide on its own, since you could argue that's for self defence. But in conjunction with the very much offensive means for making bombs and sniping techniques, it all becomes so much more dangerous.

Crazy, violent poems on their own? Certainly disturbing, certainly should be spoken out against, possibly illegal if targeted at a specific group and disseminated amongst the public.

'How to Build a Bomb' and 'How to Snipe' in addition to the above poems? Makes the person possessing such material look like a whacko, regardless of whether or not they are actually nuts.

See what I'm saying?
 
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