One Hundred Christian Proofs Of Islamic Falsehood

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kososhahab said:
Well, why don't you look at the stories in which your religion is based on: Jesus bringing the dead to life with one touch, making the blind see, and the deaf hear (which is all agreed upon by the Muslims by the way). Also, look at the story of Moses when he splited the sea with one hit by his stick (that too is agreed upon by the Muslims).

How can you explain these stories with our current logic today?
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I think the reason is because both the old and the new testament was written before the quoran. Therefor they may have been used as a source.
 
Muezzin said:
That's kind of inflammatory don't you think?
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You really like that word, inflammatory, don't you? :) Think I have seen you use it before... Well, when someone just deletes my post with authentic muslim quotes while leaving the idiotic "100 hundred proofs..", then I consider them to be pathetic and I react. You cannot have discussions if one part continues to remove posts, just because they don't like them. How can one ever find the truth?

For instance, this quote from the book "Jihad in Islam", by Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, who lived as recently as 1979. Now, I have found books about him listed on a islamic site (http://www.jamaat.org/overview/writingsabout.html), and therefor I assume that muslims can tell me their opinion of his words:

"Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Islamic State."

Now, we have radical christians and they can say crappy things as well, but I have never seen anything like this. What if we swap a bit, would muslims be concerned if a christian schoolar who is quoted in several christian books would say something like this:

"Christianity wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Christ regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Christianity is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Christianity or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Christian State."

I don't think a post with statements like these are something an administrator should just ignore and delete. How can we ever have peace on this planet if people believe that muslims have these ideas, to destroy all states, and you as muslims just ignore questions about it???
 
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"Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Islamic State."
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i totally disagree with the above statement and i don think i was from a muslim at alll!!! 100% Disagree!! :? :? :?

it is also going against the principles of islam!!!

wat the crap??? it is all bull****!!! i mean no offense but it is totally unbelievable and so wrong!!!
 
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"Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Islamic State."


i totally disagree with the above statement and i don think it was from a muslim at alll!!! 100% Disagree!!

it is also going against the principles of islam!!!

wat the crap??? it is all bull****!!! i mean no offense but it is totally unbelievable and so wrong!!!
 
well some of those things are actually true

One sis who frequented our forums was convinced Islam is the truth

However she PMed me and said "my husband is a christian and i have 3 kids, if I became Muslim i would have to leave my husband and my house would be broken. so even though I believe in Islam but I cannot bear the price, sorry"

and she left.....

it was very sad for me

but its true people do many times dont accept Islam because of family despite being convinced
 
hey my post got posted twice - sorry about that

someone delete this one please :)
 
kadafi said:
By Demijan Omeragic

(Some arguments presented in the Christ in Judo-Christianity by some wannabe-Christian apologists --see bold text) :D

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1) ARGUMENT FROM DISAGREEMENT[/FONT]


  1. [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I believe that the Bible is the word of God. [/FONT]
  2. [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Qur'ân disagrees with the Bible. [/FONT]
  3. [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Therefore, Islam is false.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2) ARGUMENT FROM ACTIONS OF PROPHETS[/FONT]
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:) Salam. Have beautiful day, inshaAllah:thankyou:
 
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Christian_dove said:
You really like that word, inflammatory, don't you? :) Think I have seen you use it before... Well, when someone just deletes my post with authentic muslim quotes while leaving the idiotic "100 hundred proofs..", then I consider them to be pathetic and I react. You cannot have discussions if one part continues to remove posts, just because they don't like them. How can one ever find the truth?

For instance, this quote from the book "Jihad in Islam", by Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, who lived as recently as 1979. Now, I have found books about him listed on a islamic site (http://www.jamaat.org/overview/writingsabout.html), and therefor I assume that muslims can tell me their opinion of his words:

"Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Islamic State."

Now, we have radical christians and they can say crappy things as well, but I have never seen anything like this. What if we swap a bit, would muslims be concerned if a christian schoolar who is quoted in several christian books would say something like this:

"Christianity wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Christ regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Christianity is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Christianity or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Christian State."

I don't think a post with statements like these are something an administrator should just ignore and delete. How can we ever have peace on this planet if people believe that muslims have these ideas, to destroy all states, and you as muslims just ignore questions about it???
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intresting:X ....u said >>"Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Islamic State."

Can u please tell me , where in the Quran or Sunnah...it says this, as these are the only 2 I read:) ..."links, sites, and all the rest " can be lies:) . and we are warned of this,,,,:)
 
akulion said:
well some of those things are actually true

One sis who frequented our forums was convinced Islam is the truth

However she PMed me and said "my husband is a christian and i have 3 kids, if I became Muslim i would have to leave my husband and my house would be broken. so even though I believe in Islam but I cannot bear the price, sorry"

and she left.....

it was very sad for me

but its true people do many times dont accept Islam because of family despite being convinced
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Would it have been the same if she was a christian and he was a muslim?

Would he have accepted her religion?

In fact the Bible says that a christian man do not have to leave his wife even so if she is not a christian. Through him and his faith in God his wife will also become holy (according to Bible, when two are married they become one..). So therefor I see no reason as to why she had to deny her faith. But obviously there could be problems, what faith would the children have, etc. Eventually one of them would have to give in.
 
Hello Christian dove,
I see you have not responded to my previous reply. In any case, plase allow me to comment on what you have written:
Christian_dove said:
For instance, this quote from the book "Jihad in Islam", by Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, who lived as recently as 1979.
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First of all, the sources of Islam are the Qur'an and the Sunnah, period. Neither Maududi, nor anyone else defines the true Islamic teachings - you have to go back to the Qur'an and the sunnah. So if you want to prove something about Islam you have to quote for me from the Qur'an and Ahadith and substantiate your claim from that. Some anti-islamists have tried to compiled a list of misquoted verses and ahadith to support their claims, yet all such claims have been debunked here:
http://www.load-islam.com/c/rebuttals/Misquoted

As for Maududi, he like any human being, made some mistakes, especially in his methodology. And while we respect him, we pray Allah swt forgives him for his mistakes and we do not follow him in those mistakes.

How can we ever have peace on this planet if people believe that muslims have these ideas, to destroy all states, and you as muslims just ignore questions about it???
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If people believe such things then they should go to the Muslims and find out the truth, seeking to learn. Learning and understanding is best achieved when we meet eachother with respect and ask questions earnestly for the sake of clarification.

Regards
 
Ansar Al-'Adl said:
As for Maududi, he like any human being, made some mistakes, especially in his methodology. And while we respect him, we pray Allah swt forgives him for his mistakes and we do not follow him in those mistakes.

Regards
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Anyone can make mistakes, and it's good to hear that muslims actually are aware of it. Thank you for your reply.
 
Anyone can make mistakes, and it's good to hear that muslims actually are aware of it. Thank you for your reply.
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do u actually mean anything, when u say this... i think u r trying to say sumtin...
 
POBook said:
What does "AL-AMEERATUL_JIHAD" mean?
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Al Ameeratul Jihad mean
Al- The
Ameeratul- Leader (feminine form)
Jihad- Striving in the way of God

But this is off-topic:).
Hope that answered your question.

:w::rose::peace:
 
No disrespect to christians or muslims or either respective faith, but it just seems to me that usually the arguments to debunk the claims of the other and "prove" the "truth" of one own, are usually really quite the same just from one side of the fence and then the other. The "proof" that is offered is usually from the Bible or the Quran. While the bible is proof enough for a christian, it is not for a muslim, and vice versa. Other "proof" is offered in the form of literature, documents, media coverage, etc, usually from a biased source that favors one view over the other.
I guess I am just trying to say that both sides cannot actually be proved (in this life anyway), although one "sees" thier evidence as proof the other cannot. Why? Because what is necessary to see the evidence the same way is faith in the same way. Both sides feel strongly. Both deserve respect. Sometimes the arguments in here lack that respect. I am as guilty of that as anyone. And I apologize to any I've offended. Peace to all.
 
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