Pres. Morsi: Enforcing Hijab is ridiculous, & not from Shariah

[sister herb]

:wa:

You'd be surprised. Some people act as though they speak on behalf of God. :skeleton:

Salam alaykum

I know it...

I am not worry because of them but worry those whose afraid to tell they own opinions.

^o)

 

['Abd-al Latif]

I am not worry because of them but worry those whose afraid to tell they own opinions.

Well I'm lost as to what everyone's being doing so far...:?

 

[Perseveranze]

Asalaamu Alaikum,

This isn't confirmed or anything.... but;

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[جوري]

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[theplains]

the custom of modesty has always been in existence and it is enforced in Islam.

best,

Thank you for the picture.

What specifically would make this gentleman immodest if he removed the hijab?

Jim

 

[جوري]

What specifically would make this gentleman immodest if he removed the hijab?

A man's dress code is different from a woman's dress code. I believe even by skimpy western standards men don't have to don a two piece although in my humble opinion with their rotund habitus they should be covered from head to toe.
let me ask you a better question. Why the obsession with Muslim women dress code? Should you not be concerned with your own women and your own men?

best,

 

[Mustafa2012]

Thank you for the picture.

What specifically would make this gentleman immodest if he removed the hijab?

Jim

To understand why she posted the picture you really need to read the whole thread.

It was in response to a person who asked why do only women need to cover their head in Islam.

Modesty has lost its significance and importance in many faiths these days.

If you look back 50-60 years ago many Christian women would cover their heads as well out of modesty and men would wear hats.

 

[sister herb]

Salam alaykum

I don´t think it is very strange that religious people cover they head/hair - also jews do same.

 

[Tyrion]

Thank you for the picture.

What specifically would make this gentleman immodest if he removed the hijab?

If you're referring to that picture of the rather feminine looking Arab guy, you should know that what he was wearing isn't really considered "Muslim clothing". Such a thing doesn't really exist, though you'll find some people confusing Arab clothing with Islamic clothing. There is no real equivalent head wear for men that resembles the hijab, but many wear caps or turbans to achieve a similar religious/"modest" look. I'm not entirely sure why she posted that picture in a thread about hijab, unless she's trying to strengthen her own position using your ignorance of Islam/Mid-East fashion...

 

[Cabdullahi]

If you're referring to that picture of the rather feminine looking Arab guy, you should know that what he was wearing isn't really considered "Muslim clothing". Such a thing doesn't really exist, though you'll find some people confusing Arab clothing with Islamic clothing. There is no real equivalent head wear for men that resembles the hijab, but many wear caps or turbans to achieve a similar religious/"modest" look. I'm not entirely sure why she posted that picture in a thread about hijab, unless she's trying to strengthen her own position using your ignorance of Islam/Mid-East fashion...

Did the prophet sport a turban back in the days, Mr Tyrone? I read that yusuf (as) wore a male equivalent of the niqab to avoid being stopped and marveled at. Muslim clothing is anything that is modest and the best form of modest clothing is what the muslims who live in muslim countries wear because it covers the awra when they bend over to prostrate...unlike western clothing which reveals the big ol what you call it, it's kinda scary..you know what i mean.

 

[GuestFellow]

If you're referring to that picture of the rather feminine looking Arab guy, you should know that what he was wearing isn't really considered "Muslim clothing". Such a thing doesn't really exist, though you'll find some people confusing Arab clothing with Islamic clothing. There is no real equivalent head wear for men that resembles the hijab, but many wear caps or turbans to achieve a similar religious/"modest" look. I'm not entirely sure why she posted that picture in a thread about hijab, unless she's trying to strengthen her own position using your ignorance of Islam/Mid-East fashion...

He's prince Hamdan. I haven't come across any requirement for Muslim men to cover their hair. All I hear is that they should cover the bodies and not reveal their shape...lol. :/

Muslim men can always wear an ordinary cap...if they think if it is a requirement.

 

[جوري]

If you're referring to that picture of the rather feminine looking Arab guy,

I am glad you're a masculine looking Afghani boy!

you should know that what he was wearing isn't really considered "Muslim clothing".

Who said anything about this being 'Muslim clothing'? he asked if there's a male equivalent and I showed that one does indeed exist- I didn't say it was 'Muslim clothing'

I'm not entirely sure why she posted that picture in a thread about hijab, unless she's trying to strengthen her own position using your ignorance of Islam/Mid-East fashion...

What you don't know could fill compendiums indeed!

best,

 

[جوري]

, it's kinda scary..you know what i mean.

In his particular case if he has got it he should flaunt it!

 

[GuestFellow]

I am glad you're a masculine looking Afghani boy!

:wa:

I actually thought the picture of Prince Hamdan looked very model like. It looks like someone got a rolling pin and smoothed his skin out. Ah...umm what the current situation in Egypt now with regards to the Hijab? Also wasn't their a ban on the Niqaab when the Mubarak was in power?

 

[جوري]

:wa:

I actually thought the picture of Prince Hamdan looked very model like. It looks like someone got a rolling pin and smoothed his skin out. Ah...umm what the current situation in Egypt now with regards to the Hijab? Also wasn't their a ban on the Niqaab when the Mubarak was in power?

I had to google Hamdan- God I can't stand UAE and its effete - it has become a cesspool to all the despots and it unfortunate how they squander the money of Muslims.. I actually took the first picture that came up when I put keffyia in Arabic but we digress, the situation in Egypt has always been the same, have you ever been there? 90% of the people there are covered even the non-Muslims when they come if they're humble and good and really want to immerse in the culture cover their heads or wear something modest. Yes the previous guy had nude beaches which were exclusive only to non-Muslims and I suppose him & his clan although I can't imagine any of them would want to go commando, and I don't believe that has changed because some people feel that the country's economy is tied to tourism which is sad.. as I said before a country that doesn't make its own weapons and plant its own food, is going to be the subject of a country that can do both those things. Also I am trying to keep an optimistic demeanor but there's so much corruption & evil there that I honestly think they need a Syria like situation to wake up!

that should give a clue..

 

[islamica]

http://www.elwatannews.com/map
interactive map by province .. you can see how it went and who they voted for in the presidential elections..

btw. this forum doesn't work on firefox even after clearing cache.. has this happened to anyone else?

works fine in firefox, although it's all in arabic.

 

[Cabdullahi]

Muslim men...the bodies and not reveal their shape...lol. :/

Muslim men can always wear an ordinary cap...if they think if it is a requirement.

Prince Hamdan looked very model like.

smoothed his skin out. Ah...

I'm worried for you brother guestfellow...i really am

 

[Tyrion]

I am glad you're a masculine looking Afghani boy!

Strapping, if I do say so myself. Don't let it please you too much though, I might start to feel uncomfortable...

 

[جوري]

Strapping, if I do say so myself. Don't let it please you too much though, I might start to feel uncomfortable...

You need all the strapping you can get, not much else is going for you.

best,

 

[جوري]

قادرة على اختراق الدفاعات الإسرائيلية.. صفقة صواريخ مصرية كورية ضد (إسرائيل)
2012-12-17 --- 4/2/1434

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المختصر / قالت وكالة " وورلد نت ديلي " الإخبارية الأمريكية أن مسئولين بالاستخبارات الأمريكية علموا أن كوريا الشمالية سوف تبيع لمصر صفقة من أجزاء صواريخ سكود على الرغم من عقوبات الأمم المتحدة، موضحة أن هذه الشحنة تعد الأولى من نوعها في سياق التعامل المصري الكوري في ظل حكومة الدكتور "محمد مرسي" الجديد.
وأشارت الوكالة الإخبارية أن البيت الأبيض لم يرد على طلبها بالرد على هذا الخبر، وقال محلل سابق بوزارة الدفاع الأمريكية طلب عدم ذكر اسمه أن كوريا الشمالية أمدت مصر بصواريخ سكود عبر الصين لسنوات عديدة، لذلك لا تعد تلك الصفقة فريدة من نوعها.
وعلق "ريتشارد فيشر" زميل المركز الدولي للتقييم والإستراتيجية، على خبر يدعي إبرام صفقة أسلحة بين كوريا الشمالية ومصر ستتزود صواريخ سكود، قائلاً: "هذا يجعلنا نشعر أن المصريين يريدون مهاجمة (إسرائيل)".
ويرى فيشر أن اقتناء مصر لهذه الأجزاء يعد علامة أنها تسعى لتطوير نظام التسليح المصري وهذا بلا شك خبر سيء لـ(إسرائيل)، مؤكدًا أن دخول هذه الشحنة لمصر يصبح منطقياً لو أرادوا به الهجوم على (إسرائيل)، مشيراً إلى أن "هذه الصواريخ قادرة على اختراق نظام الدفاع الجوي الإسرائيلي".
وأكد فيشر على أن صفقة الأسلحة هذه أمر جيد بالنسبة لحكومة الإخوان المسلمين بمصر؛ لأن هذه الصواريخ قد يتم التحكم فيها بواسطة قوات محددة، وهذا يعني أنه بالرغم من المشكلات السياسية التي يواجهها الرئيس مرسي في مصر فإن هذه الصواريخ يمكن التحكم فيها بواسطة قوات تدين بالولاء لحكومة الإخوان المسلمين.
وأشار فيشر إلى أن امتلاك مصر لهذه الأسلحة قد يدل على تحول في الجيش المصري, كما يبدو كذلك أن الإخوان في طريقهم إلى إيجاد قواتهم الخاصة بهم لإقامة قيادتهم الموحدة, والتي ستنمو وتهيمن على الحكم القائم الذي يدين ببعض الولاء للغرب.
ويعتقد فيشر أن الجيش المصري يبدو متردداً في الهجوم على (إسرائيل) بسبب نتائج الحملات الأخيرة ضد (إسرائيل), لذلك فإن وجود قوة تدين بالولاء الكامل لمرسى لما تردد لحظة في ذلك.
ولكن المحلل السابق رفض هذا الأمر، مؤكدًا أن الجيش المصري لن يقبل بالسيطرة على الترسانة الصاروخية، موضحًا أن من مصلحة الجيش المحافظة على الأمن الذي يعد العمود الفقري لاتفاقية السلام مع (إسرائيل).
وضرب المحلل مثالاً على ذلك بمباحثات وقف إطلاق النار الأخيرة بين (إسرائيل) وحماس التي توسطت فيها مصر، موضحاً أن دور مصر فيها كان دليلا على أنها لا تحمل نوايا عدوانية تجاه (إسرائيل).
وأشار المحلل أن الجيش والمخابرات المصرية كانت القناة بين الطرفين، وأن الرئيس مرسي لم يتحدث بشكل مباشر مع (إسرائيل)، وهذا الطريق هو المتخذ منذ أن انتخاب الرئيس مرسي.
المصدر: فلسطين اليوم
http://www.almokhtsar.com/node/95765

the gist is, new deal between Egypt and Korea has israel and the U.S seething, Israel is threatening that it means Egypt wants war with israel and the U.S is trying to intervene against the deal!