Andaraawus
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I would just like to say - Thank you for the answers
It is irreleveant if you do not observe Torah.
I understand that the Jews used to offer sacrifice in the temple. But that they have not done sacrfices since the destruction of the last temple. Do Jews still believe in the need for sacrifice? If ever the temple were to be rebuilt, would they begin to practice it again?
How is it irrelevant? I thought a Jew is still a Jew even though he doesn't observe Torah?
The chief priests and Levites asked John the Baptist, "If you are not the Christ (Messiah), and not Elijah - are you THAT Prophet?"
Bible - John 1:20
Can you elaborate what is meant by "The Prophet"? Are Jews still waiting for a prophet?
do have a sticky question, i am not trying to debate by it, we read in Genesis chapter 16 verse 12 that Yismael will be a wild man. Christians often present the meaning of the word pehreh as a wild ass, is there any respectful commentaries to uphold the blessed and fruitful status of Yismael. What is exactly happening with this verse right here, does it really mean he will be a dweller of the desert? alakhem shalom
is it true that u can only be a jew if ur mother is?
what if shes not n my father is a jew? would other jews consider me jewish?
Is this thread a Jewish conspiracy to convert Muslims??
y cant jewish women can't touch the torah
Another opinion is Onkelos translates the description of Ishamel in the economic sense: He would be dependant on everyone else and in turn, economically all other nations would be dependant on him.
Another opinion is that Hagar a slave women subjigated to the dsicpline of her mistress, would produce a people free and undisciplined. They were to be among people as the "wild ass" is among the beasts: sturdy, fearless, and fleetfooted, like the Syrian onager (Hebrew, pere) who roams the wilderness.
Interesting opinion. Any particular Rabbi who teaches that at a ישיבה in Turkey?
But when dealing with a "lost tribe" so to speak, you cannot be 100% sure they are Jews, so if they claim Jewish DNA, ect, but have lost all traces of there Jewish culture, ect to pagan cultures or other non-Tora cultures, then it is tough to decide because if you are in a family that is not Jewish and does not follow Jewish observance for a certain amount of generations, then I belive you may "lose" your Jewishness. For example, a man traces through his mothers side (jewish side) to be Jewish 9 generations back, but is Christian. He is not Jewish because Judaism has been lost from his family.
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Shalom Izak,
i was wondering about asking your opinion on this topic, then i saw the above quote.
to start, the "lost tribes" were Israeli, not of Judah. there's a few sect's of Christians, who believe that in fulfilling the Abrahamic prohpecies in Gen. 48, that the United Kingdom & the United States are the tribes of Joseph, Britian being Ephraim and the US being Manneseh.
have you ever heard of this and do you have an opinion?
peace,
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Yusuf
Hi Lavikor... It's been a while... where have you been?![]()
Gotta work, to feed my family.![]()
there's a few sect's of Christians, who believe that in fulfilling the Abrahamic prohpecies in Gen. 48, that the United Kingdom & the United States are the tribes of Joseph, Britian being Ephraim and the US being Manneseh.
have you ever heard of this and do you have an opinion?
The groups you speak of are ones such as Herbert Armstrong's Worldwide Church of God. Please see the thread Not every group that uses the name "Church" is Christian. This group would be one of those groups. My guess is that others with this belief would be as well.
Well we obviously disagree as to what was and was not Jesus' original message. Don't think we'll work that out in this thread.![]()
Peace Grace,
actually, i'm well aquainted with the groups! :giggling:
the Worldwide Church of God was taken over by the Tkatch clan after Mr. Armstrong's Death. they've declared him a heretic and now follow a more Pat Boon style "Christianty". i've read the majority of Armstrong's books, his stuff on prophecy is simply fascinating. most of the offshoots are now "Philadelphian" in mindset, as they see the old WWCoD in the Loadacian mindset.
BUT, imho, unless a Christian Church adheres to principals like those in his teaching, e.g., Sabbath on the 7th Day, Jesus WASN'T G-d, observing Jewish/Ancient Israeli Holidays, eating Kosher type foods and non-Trinitarian viewpoints, they have NOTHING in common with whatever Church Jesus(as) began. in fact, the elimination of those beliefs is what necessitated a "new covenant", i.e., Islam!
imho, anyone that eats pork, goes to "church" on Sunday, celebrates Xmas or Easter simply follows "what they've seen their parents" or others do and hasn't made a thorough investigation of what "Christianty" was. i mean really, how can a person who claims to worship the "One True Creator" justify eating pork?
7th Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witness's seem much nearer the mark in my book.
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