Refinding my faith

[BadOlPuttyTat]

^ In simple english bro....?

If I never know what is outside of islam I will always be tempted by it and it will always take my mind off. I will never be sincere about Islam if i am wondering about everything else.

And you seem to be stuck on using the word "bro" a lot it seems ^o)

 

[~ Sabr ~]

If I never know what is outside of islam I will always be tempted by it and it will always take my mind off. I will never be sincere about Islam if i am wondering about everything else.

So what are you saying, you want to "try" all other religions?

And you seem to be stuck on using the word "bro" a lot it seems

I can call you sis if you want. Lol.

 

[MustafaMc]

But Islam is becoming more and more useless to me now.

I went through a period of 15 years when I was not practicing Islam. I am glad that I did not die in that state. Alhamdulillah, I have been practicing Islam now for almost 11 years. I am far from perfect in my deen and my fate on Judgment Day yet remains to be seen, but I believe that I will fare better than if I had died during my wandering years.

Those who reject the hadith and choose only the Quran are in a very weak position as they refuse to follow Muhammad (saaws) as the Messenger of Allah. There is no compulsion in religion and you are free to follow or not follow what ever religion you like as long as you don't oppose me in my practice of Islam. Given your statements, having 'Islam' as your religion in your profile seems like a poor choice.

 

[~ Sabr ~]

I went through a period of 15 years when I was not practicing Islam

SubhanAllaah, what better example can you get than this, brother?

 

[BadOlPuttyTat]

So what are you saying, you want to "try" all other religions?

Not "all" religions but the ones that make me stray from Islam.

I can call you sis if you want. Lol.

Oh you funny girl you! I should pinch you for being so mischievous

 

[BadOlPuttyTat]

I went through a period of 15 years when I was not practicing Islam. I am glad that I did not die in that state. Alhamdulillah, I have been practicing Islam now for almost 11 years. I am far from perfect in my deen and my fate on Judgment Day yet remains to be seen, but I believe that I will fare better than if I had died during my wandering years.

Those who reject the hadith and choose only the Quran are in a very weak position as they refuse to follow Muhammad (saaws) as the Messenger of Allah. There is no compulsion in religion and you are free to follow or not follow what ever religion you like as long as you don't oppose me in my practice of Islam. Given your statements, having 'Islam' as your religion in your profile seems like a poor choice.

Well for starters I am not entirely disconnected from Islam. And also I dont know how to change my religion on my profile :hmm: .

 

[dqsunday]

Brother FreakoffaLeash, there isn't anything wrong with reading about other religions even while remaining a Muslim. I am no expert on Hinduism but from what I have researched its pretty much a creedless religion. There isn't any set way to 'worship' and for the most part it is a multi-diety religion. It has quite a bit of meditation and seeking to do good and avoid doing anything that is considered bad karma, including harming living things. You also can't harm cows, for these are sacred in Hindu faith.

I personally think you just need to take more time to become comfortable with a religion before deciding you want to leave Islam... A thought just occurred to me, maybe the chaos of having your sister home is throwing you off still? I do remember you mentioning you like your set routines and having her back home was going to be a trail for you as she is everything you are not.

 

[BadOlPuttyTat]

Brother FreakoffaLeash, there isn't anything wrong with reading about other religions even while remaining a Muslim. I am no expert on Hinduism but from what I have researched its pretty much a creedless religion. There isn't any set way to 'worship' and for the most part it is a multi-diety religion. It has quite a bit of meditation and seeking to do good and avoid doing anything that is considered bad karma, including harming living things. You also can't harm cows, for these are sacred in Hindu faith.

I personally think you just need to take more time to become comfortable with a religion before deciding you want to leave Islam... A thought just occurred to me, maybe the chaos of having your sister home is throwing you off still? I do remember you mentioning you like your set routines and having her back home was going to be a trail for you as she is everything you are not.

I am homeschooled and my sister in in college and she just started her LONG summer vacation. She may be 22 but she runs around like a total idiot, constantly needing me because she is to lazy to pick up a cup 4 feet from her (no joke). Personally If she calls me again I am just going to hit her on head and start a war to cut her laziness out. I know it would be the un-Islamic thing to do but she acts brain dead and cannot comprehend anything that is beyond Facebook or her fake friends. She has been robbing me of all my salah along with her stupid desire to burst into my room for no reason other then annoy me. I still do not understand how she is 22 and this idiotic, the only person who looks and acts 22 is me and everybody goes under the impression I am older :exhausted . So lately I have had absolutely no peace whatsoever since the start of this week :hmm:

 

[Qurratul Ayn]

:salamext:

it is ok bro, I have quit Islam as of now. I have simply found a more better way to live my life. I require happiness and peace, Islam offers me frustration and confusion. I do not intend to insult your beliefs but trust me when I say I know what I am capable of and being a Muslim is not one of them. I am sorry but I have no more interest nor daith in Islamic teachings . Please understand it is not you or anyone else fault.

Insha'Allaah you shall be guided onto the straight path again. You may have felt overwhelmed, and at such a young age, you decided to become Muslim too. You may even be learning too much, take a step back, relax, just pray to Allaah and think.

Just have a little bit of think, relax, think time. Insha'Allaah it will help.

I am homeschooled and my sister in in college and she just started her LONG summer vacation. She may be 22 but she runs around like a total idiot, constantly needing me because she is to lazy to pick up a cup 4 feet from her (no joke). Personally If she calls me again I am just going to hit her on head and start a war to cut her laziness out. I know it would be the un-Islamic thing to do but she i very brain dead and cannot comprehend anything that is beyond Facebook or her fake friends. She has been robbing me of all my salah along with her stupid desire to burst into my room for no reason other then annoy me. I still do not understand how she is 22 and this idiotic, the only person who looks and acts 22 is me and everybody goes under the impression I am older . So lately I have had absolutely no peace whatsoever since the start of this week

I want to laugh but I'm so upset... imsad

Whatever Allaah does, it is always for the best. (I'm not upset about the above comment but the top one... Just in case some of y'all became confused)

 

[~ Sabr ~]

it is ok bro, I have quit Islam as of now. I have simply found a more better way to live my life. I require happiness and peace, Islam offers me frustration and confusion. I do not intend to insult your beliefs but trust me when I say I know what I am capable of and being a Muslim is not one of them. I am sorry but I have no more interest nor daith in Islamic teachings imsad . Please understand it is not you or anyone else fault.

What teachings of Islam are you finding frustrating? Please make a list and post on here.

I did tel you, I warned you to slow down and not do things so quickly.

I asked you to take your time and not rush.

You have failed your big sister's expectations. imsad

 

[dqsunday]

Unfortunately age is often not an indication of maturity. It may be a good idea to get out of the house more, Brother FreakOffaLeash. Maybe do salah out of doors. Having your sister home and if she truly is determined to be a major distraction, finding peaceful places outside the home. (good time to find a local Masjid too.)

You can always buy a lock for your bedroom door so you can at least lock her out when you need privacy.

 

[BadOlPuttyTat]

What teachings of Islam are you finding frustrating? Please make a list and post on here.

I did tel you, I warned you to slow down and not do things so quickly.

I asked you to take your time and not rush.

You have failed your big sister's expectations. imsad

Now your making me sad again , last thing I need is depression. I will try making a list eventually, I read so much I never memorize it, but I will go back and try finding them.

 

[BadOlPuttyTat]

Unfortunately age is often not an indication of maturity. It may be a good idea to get out of the house more, Brother FreakOffaLeash. Maybe do salah out of doors. Having your sister home and if she truly is determined to be a major distraction, finding peaceful places outside the home. (good time to find a local Masjid too.)

You can always buy a lock for your bedroom door so you can at least lock her out when you need privacy.

I do get out plenty but I never go out by myself, for starters I dont drive and I live in a nice middleclass neighborhood with on its right side is Compton, THE WORST and most INFAMOUS ghetto in the US next to the slums of Miami and Chicago. This is the place the 2 most largest gangs in America are born from with some of the US highest crime deaths per year! and on my left I have asian territory filled with crazy nuts with stab each other over xbox video games. This is Los Angeles I live in, the home to the criminally insane.


side note i found the nearest masjid and its 7 miles away and located in the safe sane areas. Actually I think I may have passed by it some years ago as a kid when i went behind a gold center, first time I ever went behind there. So that is good news :statisfie , I thought there would be some mosque or something way off in the "crazy peoples zone".

 

[BlissfullyJaded]

You don't need to be sorry for letting any of the forum members down. You didn't become a Muslim to make people happy, you became a Muslim because you believed in Islam. If you rushed into this decision, then you need to take a pause and figure things out. I don't know if you already have, but if you haven't, then ask questions about what makes your doubtful. And since you live in LA, there are a lot of masjids in Southern California. If you can ever get over to Orange County at some point, try to ask some imaams there if they'd be willing to make an appointment where you can meet them and ask them questions.

Why is it that you reject the hadith? And if you do, then how do you perform salaah or make wudhu? The Quran commands salaah, but the hadith tells you how many rakaah each salaah is, that surah Fatiha is required, etc, and with wudhu the hadith tells us how many times to wash each part of our body + the Quran doesn't mention gargling the mouth (unless I'm wrong about that). So do you accept those hadith and reject others, because it's fairly difficult to reject all and still be able to perform salaah.

Also, and I don't mean to come across as judgmental, but how can you love and respect Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) and reject his words? How do you resolve that contradiction? Also, the Quran repeatedly mentions to obey Allah and His Rasul, and obeying the Rasul comes from following the hadith. I'm not trying to push you over the edge and make you doubt the Quran too now, I'm only merely stating it's not that simple to detach the Quran from the Sunnah. The two go together.

Make sincere dua that Allah guides you to the path that He loves, and that He grants you knowledge the benefits you. I understand that it's not easy to embrace something you're not 100% comfortable with. But if you have even just a slight love for Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) seek guidance so that your heart can put at ease. There are answers for every doubt you have, you just have to seek it, so don't give up.

Sister dqsunday, have you tried wearing different fabrics for hijaab? Cotton might be better in the heat, and most probably lighter colors too.

 

[BadOlPuttyTat]

You don't need to be sorry for letting any of the forum members down. You didn't become a Muslim to make people happy, you became a Muslim because you believed in Islam. If you rushed into this decision, then you need to take a pause and figure things out. I don't know if you already have, but if you haven't, then ask questions about what makes your doubtful. And since you live in LA, there are a lot of masjids in Southern California. If you can ever get over to Orange County at some point, try to ask some imaams there if they'd be willing to make an appointment where you can meet them and ask them questions.

Why is it that you reject the hadith? And if you do, then how do you perform salaah or make wudhu? The Quran commands salaah, but the hadith tells you how many rakaah each salaah is, that surah Fatiha is required, etc, and with wudhu the hadith tells us how many times to wash each part of our body + the Quran doesn't mention gargling the mouth (unless I'm wrong about that). So do you accept those hadith and reject others, because it's fairly difficult to reject all and still be able to perform salaah.

Also, and I don't mean to come across as judgmental, but how can you love and respect Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) and reject his words? How do you resolve that contradiction? Also, the Quran repeatedly mentions to obey Allah and His Rasul, and obeying the Rasul comes from following the hadith. I'm not trying to push you over the edge and make you doubt the Quran too now, I'm only merely stating it's not that simple to detach the Quran from the Sunnah. The two go together.

Make sincere dua that Allah guides you to the path that He loves, and that He grants you knowledge the benefits you. I understand that it's not easy to embrace something you're not 100% comfortable with. But if you have even just a slight love for Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) seek guidance so that your heart can put at ease. There are answers for every doubt you have, you just have to seek it, so don't give up.

Sister dqsunday, have you tried wearing different fabrics for hijaab? Cotton might be better in the heat, and most probably lighter colors too.

I only reject Haddith that are of no value and are not of Muhammad(pbuh). I reject anything that has no foundation simply. Any hadith can say do this or do that and yet be written by a man 400 years past the last messenger of Allah and have no utter value. I do not blindly follow something and I fear that many Muslims just like various denominations of Christians have done. The words of Allah/God are given by the prophets he seemed fit to carry his word, and any person outside of that CANNOT determine anything regarding Allah's/God's will unless he either claims to prophecy or claims divinity. If this was so a lot of imans would be prophets if their word had ultimate weight. The Quran and words of Muhammad are the ONLY text and doctrine I find of any worth as nobody else is claimed to be of prophetic knowledge.
If a hadith contained the text of a person after Muhammad's(pbuh) would you follow it? Knowing fully well you state Muhammad as the last messenger. I surely would not give that man's words any value, I would cast them aside. They may be inspiring but they are of no value to me.
Tell me int he Quran any ayah that state the following of the hadiths? Knowing the full knowledge hadiths were narrated by others then that of Muhammad and were mere men. Knowing full well that the Quran has been claimed as "perfect". The issue with this is that perfection goes alongside the word "completion". "Uncorrupted" goes alongside the word "complete" as well. If you tried removing this fabric of understanding you would fully declare the entire Quran as "flawed" and "imperfect" and "uncomplete". But my opinion is that the Quran is "perfect", the Quran has no other guide and no other prophets. A prophet guides the way to the worship and salvation of a persons soul, if Muhammad(pbuh) failed in this and never spoke of it then his purpose would be in failure. And I do not think his purpose and life was failure, his words were of truth and value. This is what attracted me to Islam for starters but now i am questioning it simply over these "added texts" ^o) . Which have to go through validation and yet ironically the Quran was compiled in the same way.

 

[dqsunday]

Sister dqsunday, have you tried wearing different fabrics for hijaab? Cotton might be better in the heat, and most probably lighter colors too.

Pity I couldn't just wear a Thawb...they looks so much more cool...but I do remember reading somewhere we can't wear the clothing of the opposite sex... I am so used to wearing dark colors and I am in a bad time of the year to find appropriate wardrobe to cover myself properly. All the stores have the summer stuff out and the fall stuff (which would likely include lighter long sleeve shirts and things) aren't likely to be in the stores till probably July. That and I dropped alot of weight over the last two years which means all my old clothing was way too big and the long sleeves I had back then, would fall off my shoulders..not too modest anymore. I am going to ask one of the Sisters at my local Masjid if she wants to come shopping with me and hopefully together we can find good summery cool stuff to wear that is modest and appropriate. That and I won't feel so uncomfortable wearing Hijab in public.

Brother FreakoffaLeash (may I call you Brother FoaL instead? ) I am glad you found a Masjid close to you...now that I know you are from LA I definitely knew there are Masjids there. Something that didn't occur to me before, but you could also search by Islamic Centers...which Masjids are also called it seems. Perhaps attending prayer at the Masjid you found (Fridays are good times to go, but may be very crowded, depending on whats going on) and being with fellow Muslims you will feel more certain of your choice.

 

[BadOlPuttyTat]

Pity I couldn't just wear a Thawb...they looks so much more cool...but I do remember reading somewhere we can't wear the clothing of the opposite sex... I am so used to wearing dark colors and I am in a bad time of the year to find appropriate wardrobe to cover myself properly. All the stores have the summer stuff out and the fall stuff (which would likely include lighter long sleeve shirts and things) aren't likely to be in the stores till probably July. That and I dropped alot of weight over the last two years which means all my old clothing was way too big and the long sleeves I had back then, would fall off my shoulders..not too modest anymore. I am going to ask one of the Sisters at my local Masjid if she wants to come shopping with me and hopefully together we can find good summery cool stuff to wear that is modest and appropriate. That and I won't feel so uncomfortable wearing Hijab in public.

Brother FreakoffaLeash (may I call you Brother FoaL instead? ) I am glad you found a Masjid close to you...now that I know you are from LA I definitely knew there are Masjids there. Something that didn't occur to me before, but you could also search by Islamic Centers...which Masjids are also called it seems. Perhaps attending prayer at the Masjid you found (Fridays are good times to go, but may be very crowded, depending on whats going on) and being with fellow Muslims you will feel more certain of your choice.

Yes you may call me FoaL or just Devon(everybody knows my real name and it is no secret). I doubt I would ever go to a service at a Masjid as I couldn't keep it a secret. I am being totally drawn away from Islam at the moment and am seriously considering abandoning it all together, I just rejoined my old Hindu forum and see no reason to even continue Islam currently.

 

[~ Sabr ~]

^ Where's that list bro???!!!!!!! :raging:

 

[~ Sabr ~]

Read InshaAllaah:

Never Overburden yourself in worship

Narrated Abu Huraira (Radi-Allahu 'anhu):

The Prophet (Sallallahu 'Alaihi Wa Sallam) said, "Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded; and gain strength by worshipping in the mornings, the nights." (See Fath-ul-Bari, Page 102, Vol 1).

Bukhari Vol. 1 : No. 38

 

[BlissfullyJaded]

If the words are not of Muhammad (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam), they are not hadith. Just because a companion of Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) narrated the hadith though, does not mean it is not the words of Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam), if that is what you are referring to. As for the ones who compiled the hadith, they took a lot of factors into consideration when doing so to maintain accuracy. I'm confused by what you are labeling as a hadith though, simply because you're saying you're accepting the words of Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) but you're not accepting the hadith, when the two are the same thing.

As for the imaams, I'm not sure if you're talking about the Four Imaams or what, but nobody would say that they have ultimate weight. They can't, because they are human and humans are not perfect. But they did achieve a great amount of success and are 99.9% accurate, simply because they never came up with a ruling just out of nowhere, they were very careful before giving a ruling and always based it on the Quran and Sunnah.

Anyways, you've got the resources to turn to and most probably will ask the questions if you ever want to. I'm not trying to force anything on you.