Refinding my faith

BlissfullyJaded said:
If the words are not of Muhammad (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam), they are not hadith. Just because a companion of Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) narrated the hadith though, does not mean it is not the words of Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam), if that is what you are referring to. As for the ones who compiled the hadith, they took a lot of factors into consideration when doing so to maintain accuracy. I'm confused by what you are labeling as a hadith though, simply because you're saying you're accepting the words of Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam) but you're not accepting the hadith, when the two are the same thing.

As for the imaams, I'm not sure if you're talking about the Four Imaams or what, but nobody would say that they have ultimate weight. They can't, because they are human and humans are not perfect. But they did achieve a great amount of success and are 99.9% accurate, simply because they never came up with a ruling just out of nowhere, they were very careful before giving a ruling and always based it on the Quran and Sunnah.

Anyways, you've got the resources to turn to and most probably will ask the questions if you ever want to. I'm not trying to force anything on you. :)
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Thanks for your understanding:statisfie. Personally I require help understanding the logic of hadiths as they are most troublesome to understand who is writing them.
 
FreakOffALeash said:
I doubt I would ever go to a service at a Masjid as I couldn't keep it a secret. I am being totally drawn away from Islam at the moment and am seriously considering abandoning it all together, I just rejoined my old Hindu forum and see no reason to even continue Islam currently.
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Insha'Allaah, you shall regain strength in Islaam again, and come back to it.

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Qurratul Ayn said:
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Insha'Allaah, you shall regain strength in Islaam again, and come back to it.

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I am sorry for making you feel bad. But I am not returning to Islam, as I go along I am finding it more and more unacceptable for me. I know my heart and Islam cannot dwell within it. In my dreams I can envision myself as a good Muslim but in my visions I see myself on the other side of Islam walking away from it. I do not come back to the becks and calls of Islam ever.
Dreams are universe you create that never come to past yet visions are realities you see unfolding before you. My vision is unfolding right before me and Islam is not in it. :cry: I do not mean to insult you at all or anyone in this forum but over time I have almost grown to hate Islam. I know it is harsh but I know how I feel, I love all Muslims and people alike. I can say "I do not like the Quran" but I will NEVER say "I do not like Muslims".
Again I am very sorry
 
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It really hurts to see a very nice brother disturbed and cast away from the right path and unable to accept the only way of delivrance. I just feel uncapable to help imsad. I feel like we failed you and did not provide you what you need. May Allah guide your heart.
Please ask questions about what disturbs you in Islam.
Meanwhile, I like you to hear these verses :
 
FreakOffALeash said:
I am sorry for making you feel bad. But I am not returning to Islam, as I go along I am finding it more and more unacceptable for me. I know my heart and Islam cannot dwell within it. In my dreams I can envision myself as a good Muslim but in my visions I see myself on the other side of Islam walking away from it. I do not come back to the becks and calls of Islam ever.
Dreams are universe you create that never come to past yet visions are realities you see unfolding before you. My vision is unfolding right before me and Islam is not in it. I do not mean to insult you at all or anyone in this forum but over time I have almost grown to hate Islam. I know it is harsh but I know how I feel, I love all Muslims and people alike. I can say "I do not like the Quran" but I will NEVER say "I do not like Muslims".
Again I am very sorry
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Apology accepted :) Joking you do not need to be sorry to us. Keep your mind open, don't hate Islaam. It has done nothing wrong, Isha'Allaah you shall come back, when you are older and wiser, maybe.

May God guide us all :) Make Du'a for us all, and ditto from me

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marwen said:
It really hurts to see a very nice brother disturbed and cast away from the right path and unable to accept the only way of delivrance. I just feel uncapable to help imsad. I feel like we failed you and did not provide you what you need. May Allah guide your heart.
Please ask questions about what disturbs you in Islam.
Meanwhile, I like you to hear these verses :
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The more of the Quran you give me the more I do not like it imsad. The more you speak of Islam the more I fall into the words of people who hate it and display racism against its people. So please understand you cannot do anything to make me rejoin Islam. I enjoyed being a Muslim for a while and it was nice :statisfie I hold no regrets against it or my decisions.
 
At least, Brother FreakOffALeash, you will now be able to understand the praises we give to God i.e. Masha'Allaah, Insha'Allaah and Subhan'Allaah and :salamext:

"DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH???"

:D
 
Qurratul Ayn said:
At least, Brother FreakOffALeash, you will now be able to understand the praises we give to God i.e. Masha'Allaah, Insha'Allaah and Subhan'Allaah and :salamext:

"DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH???"

:D
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You have surely put a smile on my face with those words :statisfie . I will say the reasons I am leaving Islam are to controversial for this forum and would only start hatred. I do not like hatred at all.
 
FreakOffALeash said:
I will say the reasons I am leaving Islam are to controversial for this forum and would only start hatred. I do not like hatred at all
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No one likes hatered. Obviously today you need some rest. I suggest you take a break. I suppose you need this toolkit :

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FreakOffALeash said:


I am sorry for making you feel bad. But I am not returning to Islam, as I go along I am finding it more and more unacceptable for me. I know my heart and Islam cannot dwell within it. In my dreams I can envision myself as a good Muslim but in my visions I see myself on the other side of Islam walking away from it. I do not come back to the becks and calls of Islam ever.
Dreams are universe you create that never come to past yet visions are realities you see unfolding before you. My vision is unfolding right before me and Islam is not in it. :cry: I do not mean to insult you at all or anyone in this forum but over time I have almost grown to hate Islam. I know it is harsh but I know how I feel, I love all Muslims and people alike. I can say "I do not like the Quran" but I will NEVER say "I do not like Muslims".
Again I am very sorry
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I don't understand how you can hate the most beautiful religion ever.
 
FreakOffALeash said:
But I am not returning to Islam, as I go along I am finding it more and more unacceptable for me. I know my heart and Islam cannot dwell within it. My vision is unfolding right before me and Islam is not in it. :cry: I do not mean to insult you at all or anyone in this forum but over time I have almost grown to hate Islam. I know it is harsh but I know how I feel, I love all Muslims and people alike. I can say "I do not like the Quran" but I will NEVER say "I do not like Muslims".
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Say: "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then (know well) that the Messenger is responsible for what he has been charged with and you are responsible for what you have been charged with. But if you obey him, you will be guided to the Right Way. The Messenger has no other responsibility but to clearly convey (the command)." Quran 24:54

Each person has the responsibility for his own decisions and actions and it is apparent that yours is that of rebellion and disobedience. I do not see how you can hate Islam, the Quran and the hadith and hope for mercy on that Fateful Day.
 
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MustafaMc said:
Say: "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then (know well) that the Messenger is responsible for what he has been charged with and you are responsible for what you have been charged with. But if you obey him, you will be guided to the Right Way. The Messenger has no other responsibility but to clearly convey (the command)." Quran 24:54

Each person has the responsibility for his own decisions and actions and it is apparent that yours is that of rebellion and disobedience. I do not see how you can hate Islam, the Quran and the hadith and hope for mercy on that Fateful Day.
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Your words have destroyed my utter faith in Islam now. thank you imsad
 
FreakOffALeash said:
Your words have destroyed my utter faith in Islam now. thank you imsad
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I do not accept this blame as there was much in what you wrote that illustrated a lack of faith before I ever commented and in response to posts by others:

FreakOffALeash said:
I seriously do NOT believe in hadiths and a lot of their teachings so i am avoiding them entirely. …

I just don't think the strict, questionable doctrine of Islam or even the Bible is the "perfect" way. …

I have quit Islam as of now. I have simply found a more better way to live my life. I require happiness and peace, Islam offers me frustration and confusion. …

I now relate to the Quranist movement now. …

But Islam is becoming more and more useless to me now. …

I am being totally drawn away from Islam at the moment and am seriously considering abandoning it all together, I just rejoined my old Hindu forum and see no reason to even continue Islam currently. …

But I am not returning to Islam, as I go along I am finding it more and more unacceptable for me. I know my heart and Islam cannot dwell within it. … I do not come back to the becks and calls of Islam ever. …

over time I have almost grown to hate Islam. ...

I can say "I do not like the Quran" …

The more of the Quran you give me the more I do not like it . The more you speak of Islam the more I fall into the words of people who hate it and display racism against its people. So please understand you cannot do anything to make me rejoin Islam.
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Despite my years of not practicing Islam, I never uttered such words of disbelief. There is much inconsistency with what you write that it makes me wonder if you have a hidden agenda going on here or if you are genuinely having a crisis of faith.
 
MustafaMc said:
I do not accept this blame as there was much in what you wrote that illustrated a lack of faith before I ever commented and in response to posts by others:

Despite my years of not practicing Islam, I never uttered such words of disbelief. There is much inconsistency with what you write that it makes me wonder if you have a hidden agenda going on here or if you are genuinely having a crisis of faith.
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My agenda isn't hidden because of I had an actual agenda I wouldnt be this irrational honestly :exhausted. I know I am angering so many people here on this forum and I wish to leave it so badly
 
Let's give the bro a break. He is still young and has many years ahead of him (InshaAllah). He has interest in different religions so let him study them. It is our responsibility as muslims to help him out as much as we can as a convert but ultimately it is his choice. Don't be too hard on him as don't really know what his current situation is. I know a lot of you guys care about him so remember him in your du'as InshaAllah. Allahu a'lam.
 
Hulk said:
Let's give the bro a break. He is still young and has many years ahead of him (InshaAllah). He has interest in different religions so let him study them. It is our responsibility as muslims to help him out as much as we can as a convert but ultimately it is his choice. Don't be too hard on him as don't really know what his current situation is. I know a lot of you guys care about him so remember him in your du'as InshaAllah. Allahu a'lam.
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Well written, Brother Hulk.

It is sad to see someone turn away from Islaam. But whatever Allaah does is always for the best.


FreakOffALeash said:
I know I am angering so many people here on this forum and I wish to leave it so badly
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Well, they shouldn't be angry as anger is encouraged by Shaytaan. Don't leave it! Just stay, learn, participate, you will find it beneficial!!!

I've already written to defend you and why you should stay, I feel like a parrot. Keep on repeating myself ^o) Or a mockingbird... Oh dear me.

Peace to y'all
 
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