sisters attacked for asking to pray in a blackburn masjid

[S_87]

i agree !!! why on gods earth come 100 miles away from out of town (if its tru) jst to make a point..

there are 100's of other mosques that have sisters sections....why not go ther...?


if they were doing somthing PIOUS n holy ,, would allah have disgrace them like that..?..?

actually many many many of the masjids in uk do NOT allow women in.

and as for your last sentence, well remember how much the sahabah had to suffer.. was their cause not right? they went through 10000000 more suffering.......

 

[Kamilah]

salam,

as well as a lot of what you have said in this thread, I would like to point out just how unIslamic the above statement is.

From the Qur'an, we find:

"The believers, men and women, are Auliya (helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another; they enjoin good, and forbid evil; they perform As-Salat (prayer) and give the Zakat (charity), and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise. " - (9:71)

do you see the stark contrast between your statement and what this verse says?
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whats your point sis?

rather than pointing out the "UN"islamicness of my posts and personally attacking me, look at the issue at hand-the opening post to the thread

would you care to Islamically the justify the actions of two young women travelling to the other side of the country to hand out leaflets outside a masjid (which does even not concern them, A Masjid that they will NOT even regularly be attending!!!) on the day of jum'uah? in the pathway of men?

what good came of it?

 

[S_87]

did they travel from the other side of country?

 

[ameen]

whats your point sis?

would you care to Islamically the justify the actions of two young women travelling to the other side of the country to hand out leaflets outside a masjid (which does even not concern them, A Masjid that they will NOT even regularly be attending!!!) on the day of jum'uah? in the pathway of men?

salam,

what do you mean when you say 'masjid which does not concern them' ?

Of-course it concerns them . Are you suggesting that they become selfish and only care about what affects themselves and not others who are deprived from entering other mosques?

If they have done this out of consideration for others, is that not a good thing?

I'm not a sister bytheway.

wsalam

 

[Kamilah]

salam,

what do you mean when you say 'masjid which does not concern them' ?

Of-course it concerns them . Are you suggesting that they become selfish and only care about what affects themselves and not others who are deprived from entering other mosques?

If they have done this out of consideration for others, is that not a good thing?

I'm not a sister bytheway.

wsalam

i think you are missing the point,

BLACKBURN HAS MANY FACILITIES FOR SISTERS!

facilities for Muslimah's in Blackburn are abundant..Alhamdulillah!

I dont see the women of Blackburn complaining?

I would suggest you go and read the MPAC website and read up on their articles (that article in particular and the comments) and their forum.

mpac are a political lobbying group, they spend the majority of their time takfeering mainly masjid imams..its a conicidence how they went to that particular masjid if their so called intentions were to pray
they are playing on the whole "women praying in mosques" issue...

 

[ameen]

i think you are missing the point,

BLACKBURN HAS MANY FACILITIES FOR SISTERS!

salam,

Blackburn having many facilities for women is not the point.

The point is that too many Mosques around the world deprive women from having proper access to them, and the particular Blackburn Mosque concerned here is one of them - so it is also part of the problem.

wsalam
 

 

[Kamilah]

salam,

Blackburn having many facilities for women is not the point.

The point is that too many Mosques around the world deprive women from having proper access to them, and the particular Blackburn Mosque concerned here is one of them - so it is also part of the problem.

wsalam
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so then all of a sudden it became fard upon the two sisters to travel 250 miles up to Blackburn of all places to that masjid of all masjids? that particular masjid isnt even central its a different area of Blackburn,

isnt it a coincendence that this article was posted only on the MPAC website,

isnt it a coincedence that they decided to demand rights at that particular masjid ...the same masjid that ibrahim masters (pro-labour) runs?


the sisters first hand account was posted on mpac website...
their statement doesnt show genuine distress and hurt,

i wouldnt worry about this incindent any further, its as clear as day, that their real reasons for doing this was nothing but a political agenda.

 

[Sum-Muslim-Gal]

ok we gotta really see it 4rm both sides who really knows what happened whateva happend happend lets leav it 2 allah swt 2 judge that...

 

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:

The Evils of Disputation
Qur'an 43:58
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE MOST MERCIFUL, THE MOST KIND

Debating, arguing and disputing are innovations which throws doubt into the heart, even if the person reaches the truth and the Sunnah.

At-Tirmidhee reports a hasan hadeeth from Abu Usaamah, who said: Allah's Messenger, Sallallahu Alahi WA Salaam, said " A people never went astray after being upon guidance except through disputation."

Then Allah's Messenger, Sallallahu Alahi WA salaam, recited this Ayah: This they set forth to you only by way of argument. Nay but they are a contentious people.

http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-etiquettes/29233-evils-disputation.html#post494796



Let's make dua' for the muslim ummah insha'Allaah.. instead of arguing from all sides.

 

[Sum-Muslim-Gal]

thats tru bro^^^

 

[sonz]

if they were doing somthing PIOUS n holy ,, would allah have disgrace them like that..?

salama

thats silly

stones were thrown at the prophet (saw) and the sahabas when they did dawah does that mean that they were disgraced or tested???

 

[~Stranger~]

its better for a muslimah to pray at home

i totally agree with this but it still doesnt justify the males reaction- to physically ATTACK the sisters?!!!! :?

“Yeah right and we’ll bring our mothers and sisters in bikinis and watch them do a catwalk in the masjid.”

what does this have anything to do with what was happening?? :?

MPACUK is the UK's Leading Muslim civil liberties group, empowering Muslims to focus on non-violent Jihad and political activism

i heard bad things about this org.

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

:raging:

 

[Ghazi]

Muslims today actually forget who owns a mosque, you sometimes see caretakers calling shots dictating things when not needed, a mosque belongs to allah muslims should be extremly careful not to become dictators in them.

 

[Isaac]

Can i ask any of those brothers that used such abusive behavious to show me from the quran and sunnah, where this can be justified. Ok, the sisters could have picked a quiter time, perhaps even a different approach, but to attack them and the brothers in such a way, is something which they will have to try and justify on the day of judgement. And you know what shame on thsoe people that just stood their and watched their sisters get humilated, by muslim men, who were doing what they fear would happen if sisters came to the masajid in the first place. Let me ask, would those brothers allow men to abuse their sisters or mothers like that?

You know what shame on those brothers and fathers hat stood in the house of Allah and witnessed their mothers and sisters being abused. Thats the thing with the ummah, if its not in your own back yard it doesnt matter. If the muslims can do this, is their any questioning when the kuffar do this?

 

[glo]

I don't understand ... why weren't the women allowed in the masjid in the first place? :?:?:?
There's obviously something I am not getting here ...

 

[sameer]

some how i cant picture borthers pelting sisters with eggs? do these things really happen?

I think we should get both sides of the story b4 we choose . Does anyknow here know of the masjid in Blackburn? is it big? does it have enough room for women for jumma? Obivioulsy if the Moaque is too small to fit both male and female..then the men have a right to fill it - remember its compulsory for them.

However, regardless of the situation, i dont think the men should have roughed up the women, if in fact that did happen.

 

[InToTheRain]

This whole incident has cause Fitnah amongst the Muslims int Blackburn community. From what I understand the brothers their are strongly against it even though they have acted and decided without knowledge. I think its best not to persue this "Muslim woman in masjid" until the brothers their are educated in order to avoid Fitnah. Even if some how woman were allowed in in the mosque at this stage the violence will just climax.

100% agree with bro Fi_sabillilah.

 

[S_87]

I don't understand ... why weren't the women allowed in the masjid in the first place? :?:?:?
There's obviously something I am not getting here ...

peace

culture culture culture. many masjids dont allow women cos they think its wrong including many in blackburn.
i remember i once went into a local masjid and no one told me anything, but after my dad said, there were people wondering who u were and why you were there at that time! and it wasnt even prayer time or anything, and i was younger!

the women of blackburn do complain plus they have a good 20 masjids in blackburn if i remember correctly. i dont recall any of the 20 im mentioning have jamah for men and women :?

 

[glo]

peace

culture culture culture. many masjids dont allow women cos they think its wrong including many in blackburn.
i remember i once went into a local masjid and no one told me anything, but after my dad said, there were people wondering who u were and why you were there at that time! and it wasnt even prayer time or anything, and i was younger!

the women of blackburn do complain plus they have a good 20 masjids in blackburn if i remember correctly. i dont recall any of the 20 im mentioning have jamah for men and women :?

But how can it be wrong for women to go to mosque and worship???
Does it say that in the Qu'ran?