Swiss minaret ban gains momentum

[جوري]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

The link to the post was in my post #175. You quoted it yourself in post #176. I have already explained that I edited my post before I saw your post. Did you not bother to read that either?

Are you playing dumb or what? my post number 174 is a response to your now edited completely modified from original post.. anyone can scroll back a page and see that for themselves!
Why would I bother read an addendum that you had inserted which is of no relevance to what you had previously written and to which I had already replied?

Don't call me a liar when you have already said you haven't read my posts. I have not lied one iota and anyone that can read can see that.

But you are a liar.. a subsequent post with a link has no relevance to what was already posted or what you had edited.. you don't get to modulate what you mean as you see fit!

The Swiss have voted to stop the building of any more new minarets. It will allow the existing minarets to stay. This topic is completely about building anew so your comment makes no sense at all.

The vote is to ban minarets. Logic dictates that if there are only four mosques sporting minarets that all that is built is built without them.. it is not that difficult! and begs the question of what Muslim power they represent when a minaret is designed for the call of prayer, not to hide cannons!

I think you may have something to offer, you just never do because you are too busy with the insulting and ranting. You know I am more educated than you are, so it's silly to say these things to try and upset me.

Sure you are very educated, whatever you have to convince yourself with to keep going..
There isn't a competition of who is more educated. You are under-educated with no contrast to anyone on board, except perhaps the sort of folk you represent in which case stratifying you on lack of education is as ridiculous as having this discussion.

all the best

 

[afzalaung]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

I was just wondering...since minarets are banned....why dont we (of they, the Swiss Muslims) build bigger, taller domes.

 

[Amadeus85]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

European conservatives (the true) and faithful muslims have in common that we all believe that the problem of our places lays in ourselves. The biggest enemies of Europe are europeans, and as I noticed here some of You say that the problem of muslim world lays in muslim citizens. Maybe its not good place to express it here, but You should know that european catholic traditionalists condemned the western agression against Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[titus]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

But you are a liar.. a subsequent post with a link has no relevance to what was already posted or what you had edited..

I posted my comment about people on this forum saying "Another irony is that someone is currently arguing that Muslim states have the right to attack another country if that country inhibits the spread of Islam."

You replied with "where is the argument against attacking other countries? do you have both a reading and comprehension impediment?"

I then posted a link with that argument.

The link was completely relevant.

But you are a liar.. a subsequent post with a link has no relevance to what was already posted or what you had edited.. you don't get to modulate what you mean as you see fit!

I did not modify, I added. I changed nothing that I had written, I simply added more content (Before I saw your post I may add). Your following post was a direct reply to the first paragraph of my post which was not changed at all.

The vote is to ban minarets. Logic dictates that if there are only four mosques sporting minarets that all that is built is built without them.. it is not that difficult!

Yes, the new law does nothing regarding the existing minarets but simply bans the building of all new minarets. That's why your comment that "The topic has nothing to do with building anew, it has to do with existing minarets" made no sense.

Sure you are very educated, whatever you have to convince yourself with to keep going..
There isn't a competition of who is more educated.

I do not need to convince myself of anything. You keep broaching the topic so I am explaining to you the situation.

You are right, this is not a competition of who is more educated. This is an attempt to have dialogue with someone that does not believe exactly as I do. I would rather have a straight conversation with you and not trade insults back and forth. You calling me a liar and uneducated is about as fruitful as it would be if I went and corrected the spelling in your posts.

 

[Uthman]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

Jewish leader says Swiss vote shows Europe's growing anti-Muslim views

Muslim Scholars Blast Swiss Minarets Ban

 

[جوري]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

I posted my comment about people on this forum saying "Another irony is that someone is currently arguing that Muslim states have the right to attack another country if that country inhibits the spread of Islam."

You replied with "where is the argument against attacking other countries? do you have both a reading and comprehension impediment?"

I then posted a link with that argument.

The link was completely relevant.

Perhaps you can enlighten us to relevance?

I did not modify, I added. I changed nothing that I had written, I simply added more content (Before I saw your post I may add). Your following post was a direct reply to the first paragraph of my post which was not changed at all.

and my comment stands for your original sans the modification. It is very apropos!

Yes, the new law does nothing regarding the existing minarets but simply bans the building of all new minarets. That's why your comment that "The topic has nothing to do with building anew, it has to do with existing minarets" made no sense.

a nonsensical law, like your nonsensical argument-- if it were of any relevance at all, we wouldn't have only four minarets standing in that entire country (representing Islamic power) --

I do not need to convince myself of anything. You keep broaching the topic so I am explaining to you the situation.

You explaining the situation really hasn't changed the obvious!

You are right, this is not a competition of who is more educated. This is an attempt to have dialogue with someone that does not believe exactly as I do. I would rather have a straight conversation with you and not trade insults back and forth. You calling me a liar and uneducated is about as fruitful as it would be if I went and corrected the spelling in your posts.

God, you are so witty, you do that, go correct my spelling errors!

 

[Pygoscelis]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

It is an irrational reaction to a rational concern.

 

[Supreme]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

It is an irrational reaction to a rational concern.

My thoughts summed up completely.

 

[Justufy]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

It is an irrational reaction to a rational concern.

I completely agree.

 

[Justufy]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

Gossamer skye wrote:

The topic has nothing to do with building anew, it has to do with existing minarets of which there are only four in the entirety of Switzerland-- in fact the true hypocrisy would be the response if Muslims were to pass decrees to annex structures of importance in existing churches, be it alters or benches or whatever else of relevance to the structure.. the problem with you, is that you can't even make a correct analogy to save your dear life and would rather dwell with irrelevant rant!

I disagree, the law targets ONLY ''building anew'':hiding:

 

[جوري]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

Gossamer skye wrote:




I disagree, the law targets ONLY ''building anew'':hiding:

You agree with a militant atheist that it is rational to fear Muslims, though the minaret is probably the wrong route to go about it, and know that though there are probably a sizable number of mosques to which there are no minarets and only four exist to symbolize 'Islamic power' what kind of response do you honestly expect in return? I suggest you take a look at the reasons you are Muslim, if you are indeed one.. it is better to be a strong coward than a weak believer!


all the best!

 

[Justufy]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

You agree with a militant atheist that it is rational to fear Muslims, though the minaret is probably the wrong route to go about it, and know that though there are probably a sizable number of mosques to which there are no minarets and only four exist to symbolize 'Islamic power' what kind of response do you honestly expect in return? I suggest you take a look at the reasons you are Muslim, if you are indeed one.. it is better to be a strong coward than a weak believer!


all the best!

Never agreed to him, I agreed the fears were irrational.

I suggest you take a look at the reasons you are Muslim, if you are indeed one..

How dare you? I have been a muslim my whole life, pherhaps this is why some people complain that you appear downright offensive at times.

 

[Supreme]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

How dare you? I have been a muslim my whole life, pherhaps this is why some people complain that you appear downright offensive at times.

Oh come on, how can you possibly be offended by someone who claims that 'exposing' Christianity on an online forum is their hobby?

 

[جوري]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

It is an irrational reaction to a rational concern.

I completely agree.

Never agreed to him, I agreed the fears were irrational.

'completely' denotes in totality, in full in the entire extent!
He (a militant atheist) believes that it is a rational fear, with an irrational approach, you agreeing in 'completely' means not in half or in part but with his entire sentiment, it really isn't difficult why we'd draw the conclusion we have!

How dare you?

It isn't difficult to point out how your beliefs and opinion are at odds with the Muslim front!

I have been a muslim my whole life,

Irrelevant, when actions speak the contrary!

pherhaps this is why some people complain that you appear downright offensive at times.

And you go on to hammer in the point by backbiting other members!

well done!

 

[جوري]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

Oh come on, how can you possibly be offended by someone who claims that 'exposing' Christianity on an online forum is their hobby?

ingratiate yourself to members I fear is no substitute for not coming up with a lucid integrated responses to questions raised!
It is a child that gnarls and a man that speaks his mind!

 

[Uthman]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

Alright people, that's enough. Let's leave it at that and return to constructively discussing the topic again.

 

[titus]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

Perhaps you can enlighten us to relevance?

You claimed nobody said any such thing. I provided the link to prove it.

a nonsensical law, like your nonsensical argument-- if it were of any relevance at all, we wouldn't have only four minarets standing in that entire country (representing Islamic power) --

The law is ridiculous, I agree with you there. I have said so already.

The only thing nonsensical is your statement that this topic has nothing to do with building anew, when that is exactly what the law specified.

God, you are so witty, you do that, go correct my spelling errors!

Post #70 demand that they remove alters from churches

Should be "altars"

Post #166 save us these tribulations as they are sure to get worst

Should be "worse"

Post #179 Like your ailing analogies your psychological analysis are akin to braying donkeys

Should be "analyses" as it should be plural to keep the sentence parallel

You definitely need to learn how to use commas. I would also quit trying to impress people with a vocabulary you can barely handle. Your misuse of words is fairly common and others make no sense in the context of your sentences.

It is more important what you say than the words you use to say them. I highly recommend that you stop trying to insert what I call "$5 words" into your posts. I know you think they make you sound intelligent, but when you misuse them as you sometimes do it creates the opposite effect. Place more importance on what you say rather than how you say it. It will make you more persuasive.

I would also cut out the personal insults you feel the need to inject in every post. They make you appear petulant.

 

[Justufy]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

Can we all just get on topic?

I think that english is not Gossamer's first language just like english is not my first language, this is why she makes mistakes and you should not point these out, lets just get back on topic.

 

[جوري]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

You claimed nobody said any such thing. I provided the link to prove it.

Any such what? and what does it have to do with the thread?

The law is ridiculous, I agree with you there. I have said so already.

OK

The only thing nonsensical is your statement that this topic has nothing to do with building anew, when that is exactly what the law specified.

you must have strained really hard to arrive to that conclusion. The fact that existing Mosques if they have been built are built without minarets would render this law useless all together, there are only four mosques with Minarets already tells me that swiss are straining as hard as you to make an issue of a non-issue!

Post #70 demand that they remove alters from churches

Should be "altars"

Indeed, I am sure as you have pointed out it wasn't difficult to come to the correct meaning this isn't English class-- it is a forum and you are writing in a section entitled 'world affair' if you want to instruct us on use of language, there is a section for that. parting with vacuous comments on syntax and structure only cements how much free time you have on your hand and lack of anything of substance to impart as pertains to the subject matter!

Post #166 save us these tribulations as they are sure to get worst

Should be "worse"

'worst' (superlative of 'bad') most wanting in quality or value or condition
"the worst player on the team"; "the worst weather of the year"; 'the worst is yet to come'

you should consult a dictionary, again before you strain so hard as you have with 'irregardless' but who is keeping a record?

Post #179 Like your ailing analogies your psychological analysis are akin to braying donkeys

Should be "analyses" as it should be plural to keep the sentence parallel

We can call it even given your numerous bloopers!

You definitely need to learn how to use commas. I would also quit trying to impress people with a vocabulary you can barely handle. Your misuse of words is fairly common and others make no sense in the context of your sentences.

That seems like an adequate insight into your own psyche.. English is hardly something to impress people with, as even the thought of 'impressing people' is a trait best left to children, you seem stuck at a preoperational egocentric stage and unable to distinguish your own perspective from that of others and the best you can do is project your own feelings of inadequacies -- Even beggars in remote parts of the world are bilingual, I speak three languages, and have a doctorate, what do you have, a book on 'rules of thump'?.. If I were you I'd try to be perfect from now on-- seems you have committed yourself to front-line infantry with your foolish occupation-- be prepared come what may!

It is more important what you say than the words you use to say them. I highly recommend that you stop trying to insert what I call "$5 words" into your posts. I know you think they make you sound intelligent, but when you misuse them as you sometimes do it creates the opposite effect. Place more importance on what you say rather than how you say it. It will make

Indeed what I write is more important and can't be misconstrued even if I substitute an I for E. I actually address the subject matter at hand and don't go off on tangents of my peeves-- this isn't calisthenics with words as you seem to have not learned anything from your previous blunder with another forumer (<I am coining the term)!
You fixating on a tangent outside of 'swiss ban' not only paints you as a pathetic narcissist (and this isn't the place to purge for free) but makes this more your problem than mine-- My self worth doesn't rest on the tirade of a deranged member and his drive by shootings with the rules of thump.

I would also cut out the personal insults you feel the need to inject in every post. They make you appear petulant.

We like board jesters here as in any other forum, but again there is a section for that and this isn't it!

P.S how much did you pay for petulant?
thanks for the laugh, reading what you write is always relaxing and virtually appealing! coma coma coma ellipsis ellipsis dash dash!

all the best

 

[Justufy]

Re: Swiss move to ban minarets as 'symbols of Islamic power'

I speak three languages, and have a doctorate

Sorry but this call to your own competence is sophistry and will not in any way give you credibility in a debate.