The lebanese demands

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Moshe said:
No the root of the problem is Arabs and the sooner the you realize that the better. Israel has been under constant attack by islamic militant from the day it became a state and that is just not acceptable.

Israel has all the given right to defend it's citizen at whatever cost and it's doing so by making hezbollah an example for the whole arab world.
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that's racist dude!

certainly u cant blame it all on the arabs, do u? that will also be anti-`semite's brethren'....:giggling:
(the arabs is the brethren of the jews, dont they?)
 
adi8putra said:
for god's sake, not all of us are blaming israel for involving in this war. we acknowledged that hizbollah is WRONG in starting this war. we also acknowledged that israel has the right to defend itself and we also acknowledge the fact that israel has the right not to negotiate with hizbollah on the terms and conditions of ending this war. BUT, we also acknowledge that all of these DOES NOT give israel the liberty of using disproportionate force in punishing the lebanese people as a whole as in some kind of collective punishment. israel enemy is hizbollah, NOT the average lebanese people (including christians and others faith), NOT the lebanese infrastructure and certainly NOT the lebanese relief helpers (ambulance drivers etc)........:rollseyes

the real problem is NOT poverty, but rather the prejudice views of both the lebanese and the israeli's alike.......:uhwhat
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please don't speak for all of US acknowledging that Hezballah is wrong ... until they free the prisoners held illegally in their prisons some for over 28 yrs without due cause ... hand over the map for the mines in Lebanon which continues to kill children. the Brutality used against Palestinians for no particular reason as was reported in their own Haretz and as seen in the video which I know is a drop in an ocean of brutality can we come and state yes how awful they should have kidnapped those two innocent soldiers which by the way many believe were trotting Lebanese territory... So you want to acknowledge wrong speak for self not on our behalf
 
You know what? Stop going off topic, there are tons of this type of topic in this forum, go dispute there, this thread has a specific purpose, please stick to the topic, jazakallah.
 
Iqram said:
You know....Patriotism doesn't get you anywhere.....Only causes disunity later on.....
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Europe is a haven of peace and transquility. The Muslim world is not. You think patriotism might have something to do with it?
 
Moshe said:
Are you being serious adi8putra? tell me of a war in any time of history when civilians weren't killed?

None

Purestambrosia, Ishmael was never promised any land he was son of a handmaiden and the implications your making are grossly miscalculated.

Ashkenazi? Sephardic? whatever you want to term jews is your problem. Israel is promised to JEWISH PEOPLE not HEBREW people you racist bigot
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What in hell are you talking about? Ishmael was the eldest son ... it doesn't matter who the mother is ... that is according to your own Hebrew scholars or do you write texts as you see fit and improvise along the way? either way all these messengers from God Originally came from that region, a middle eastern region they traveled along the paths from Yemen to Iraq ... Again no genetic link between the current colonial settler apartheid state of Israel and those biblical characters. You don't have to check a book of history just read any science books that speaks of lysosomal storage diseases that affect only Ashkenazic Jews... Jews of European origins or are they too bigots and racists? you keep ignoring that simple fact ... you don't want to acknowledge it ... that is fine ... you want to defy even your own religions by establishing a secular state which supposedly you were promised before awaiting prophecies to unfold again your call ... it doesn't matter to me either way not does it influence what I believe ....... and have you a bigger vocab than racist bigot? Is this a joke? go down a Propanaolol
 
HeiGou said:
Europe is a haven of peace and transquility. The Muslim world is not. You think patriotism might have something to do with it?
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I've adopted the American thinking speeds....Please ellaborate ;D

if it's what I'm thinking it is, then:

That's what I'm trying to get accross....Patriotism causes disunity.....
 
Moshe said:
This war is about sending a message to the arab world that israel is no nonsense and the humantarian efforts that American/British use in time of war do not apply to us. Lebanon is just a warning too all other arabs to notice the strength of the israeli army.
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wowoww.... now the smartest things that i've ever heard from u. first u brag about israel having the 5th mightiest armies on earth. than u complained that this mightiest army have got problem with those tiny whiny hamas & hezbollah fighters.... for god's sake, u r a jew and dont ever forget on the lesson to be learned from david verses goliath stories originating from ur own jewish history....:giggling:

.... & talking about the strength about the israeli army, i'm truly impressed. after 18 days of fighting, u still cant defeat a tiny whiny adversary. that's truly impressing....:rollseyes
 
adi8putra said:
wowoww.... now the smartest things that i've ever heard from u. first u brag about israel having the 5th mightiest armies on earth. than u complained that this mightiest army have got problem with those tiny whiny hamas & hezbollah fighters.... for god's sake, u r a jew and dont ever forget on the lesson to be learned from david verses goliath stories originating from ur own jewish history....:giggling:

.... & talking about the strength about the israeli army, i'm truly impressed. after 18 days of fighting, u still cant defeat a tiny whiny adversary. that's truly impressing....:rollseyes
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Yeah.....

Israel's checklist:

Children=Check
Houses=Check
School=Check
More children=Check





Hizbullah=urm...
 
I couldn't bear to read all of it.....I'm not going to pass any judgements about Israelis as a whole, but all I'm saying is, the army is ruthless.....And it's supposed to get backed by the USA, they should have soe sort of code of conduct....But israel's code of conduct is:\

Kill at any chance :)
 
Moshe said:
ezekiel 2517

You arabs want to kill us go ahead because GOD WITH HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE
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God's chosen are ones who prostrate themselves to him ... ones who don't transgress against others ... ones in whose hearts there is piety and goodness.... not ones who wish to eradicate of people so that God would have no choice but to accept them..... if you were god's chosen bring you proof ... where is your messenger to lead you to the promised land?
 
Moshe said:
That is a prophesy from YAHWEH to all the children of israel, that our enemies will always be the eventual loser. and the prophecy is coming true ISRAEL HAS NEVER LOST A WAR TO ARABS AND THEY HAVE HAD 3 MAJOR WARS
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OK ... you are just being a kid ... and humanity hasn't ceased to exist yet....... God/yahweh/elohim/Allah/ Doesn't like injustice or those who do evil on earth... So until this book is finished.... And you get your might truly from Yahweh not the united states of America, its mighty weapons and mighty dollar can we see without a doubt that you were chosen above all.... I can't engage this any more ... it is touching upon really preposterous.....
 
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Oi, Moshie! I have posted a document written by the BBC that says that many Israeli leaders should be executed for war crimes. They abducted and tortured a boy who was as old as me, and kept him for forteen years. If you have any reason why the perpatrators of this monstrosity don't all deserve to be shot (although I think shooting them wouldn't do justice to this horrific crime), speak now.

Unless you think it's right to take away the childhood of an innocent Lebanese boy, in which case I hate you absolutely and utterly.
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Moshe said:
Then why do you hate Jewish people for? Arabs have jewish people from day one the day Abraham chose isaac before ishmael and threw ishmael and hagar into the desert and unfortunately to our dismay, ishmael survived
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I don't hate Jewish people, but now that I read that BBC interview I most certainly hate Israel. Now, will you respond to that BBC article or I will assume that you love torturing children.
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Iqram said:
all I'm saying is, the army is ruthless.....And it's supposed to get backed by the USA, they should have soe sort of code of conduct....But israel's code of conduct is:\

Kill at any chance :)
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Israel has dropped about 10,000 tonnes of bombs on Lebanon. That's about the same as the Americans dropped on Hiroshima. That killed 60,000 people. The Israelis have killed about 800. Hezbollah has fired about 50 tonnes of explosives at Israel. They have killed about 20 civilians. You can see that by any rational comparison Israel is extremely careful not to kill civilians - far more so than Hezbollah for instance. They are not killing at any chance.
 
Moshe said:
Fisherman as much as i dislike arab "children are always going to be children and their sanctity be preserved at all cost" i mean seriously their can't be any rational human being who thinks killing a child is going to further your cause its ludicrous.

But the BBC is a left wing anti israel establishment who's reporting has been at times doubtful.
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What do you mean by
as much as i dislike arab "children are always going to be children and their sanctity be preserved at all cost"
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?

The BBC is run by the British government. if you think Britain is leftist and Anti-Israel, then why does Tony Blair support Israel? And BBC is one of the best of the major news companies, much better than the propaganda-spouting Israeli (or sometimes Arab) newspapers.
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800 civilians....That's not a joke of a number....

Hizbullah are failing in their primary cuase, but atleast they are not unleashing the full power that they have upon the civilians of Israel, 20:800 is a huge difference......
 

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