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That's nice especially after assassinating 530 Iraqi scientists & intellectuals ..
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_21935.shtml
they've done their part, structures are there now per your allegations..so why are the women taking to the streets in prostitution?
also looting the treasures of the birth of civilization must be another way to rebuild (American style)
snap snap loot loot
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Ah, then the news media has deceived me again for saying that there are hundreds of thousands of US military still occupying Afghanistan and Iraq, that there are fighter jets and drones carpet bombing whole villages.
When did Obama pulled back all the military and tanks and bombs?
I must have missed some important news.
*not rolling eyes*
Hey all, I have worked in the NGO sector, and we've had links to people from NGOs in Afghanistan, just so you know that the only hospitals ( small ones) they have made is for their own army, security is too tight for even normal Afghan people to be served in those hospitals.. BUT yes there are a few Foreign doctors who work for people in Afghan built hospitals, but if you ask , these hospitals look like dungeons, have almost no medical supplies, since most of the real hospitals have been destroyed in the bombings. Schools hospitals buildings, everything is destroyed, only prison cells and Govt. functionaries remain..
The Only real hospital that was built after the war in Afghanistan was entirely funded and built by the Chinese govt, somewhat completed in 2009, in the capital of Afgh. Kabul, and sad to say the rest of the bombed Afghanistan is in shambles with no where to go.
It is the Only modern , newest hospital of Afghanistan, a 350 bed hospital, initial cost 25 million US dollars, running cost, another huge amount, being covered somewhat by the chinese. You can check it out here,
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90883/6729877.html
The Only real hospital that was built after the war in Afghanistan was entirely funded and built by the Chinese govt, somewhat completed in 2009, in the capital of Afgh. Kabul, and sad to say the rest of the bombed Afghanistan is in shambles with no where to go.
It is the Only modern , newest hospital of Afghanistan, a 350 bed hospital, initial cost 25 million US dollars, running cost, another huge amount, being covered somewhat by the chinese. You can check it out here,
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90883/6729877.html
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τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1463610 said:of the 6 Iraqi friends that I have excluding those who are colleagues and dear friends of my father, I have not encountered one that shares this lady's sentiment ..regardless of whether Sadaam was an SOB or not...Sadaam the poor cretin didn't play it right like the rest of the despots they don't know how to keep their friends..When he decided to sell that oil in Euros it pretty much sealed his fate..small despotic puppets are a plaything to the powers that be.. but if you think the American army is there out of the good of their heart and they want to help you, or if you skulk & brow nose them sufficiently that you'll live in comfort & riches I urge you to have another look at how fast they dropped their 'friends' when their own interest came to the foray..
is anyone that naive though?
Look at how quickly the US sold out Mubarak (one of the most solid US allies in North Africa) in the name of "freedom".
I never really thought Saddam was a true Muslim anyway. I think he professed the faith, but used it for his own agendas (as too many leaders have done throughout history).
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Look at how quickly the US sold out Mubarak (one of the most solid US allies in North Africa) in the name of "freedom".
I never really thought Saddam was a true Muslim anyway. I think he professed the faith, but used it for his own agendas (as too many leaders have done throughout history).
It wasn't really in the name of freedom and I promise you they don't care who is in that seat by 'free fair and ''democratic''' elections so long as he who is seated carries the same amero-fundie/zionist agenda..You should see how they're sending their devils there every day to sow the seeds of discord create schisms and possibly the best of all for their interests a civil war...
Here in the U.S people think they have the freedom to choose too but they don't.. they all carry the same exact agenda and delude the people that they're free..
I was just reading about the raids on Amish farms
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/04/30/amish-milk-the-latest-target-of-the-obama-regulatory-state/
No one is spared in the police state if you don't conform to their idea of 'freedom, democracy' and other meaningless slogans ..pretty much all that will be left are cattle (non-whites) and masters (super rich white Zionist corporate america) power & money in the hands of a select few!
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Everybody please be mindful of new reverts, and of saying things out of a cannon, or ELSE!!:raging:
you know what happens when afghans are provoked!!!
Ok now everybody smile, say cheese please and have cupcakes and send greetings to each other! Now!
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Everybody please be mindful of new reverts, and of saying things out of a cannon, or ELSE!!:raging:
you know what happens when afghans are provoked!!!
Ok now everybody smile, say cheese please and have cupcakes and send greetings to each other! Now!
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i found the obl interview where he clearly said targeting of innocents is against islam and something he condemns:
I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks,
nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act.
Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.
It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims...............
..............I will give you an example. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the U.S. secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the U.S. Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any other U.S. President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks.
Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive.
continue to article:
http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks,
nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act.
Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.
It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims...............
..............I will give you an example. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the U.S. secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the U.S. Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any other U.S. President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks.
Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive.
continue to article:
http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
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The problem is many Iraqi civilians have been killed, tortured and raped. Many Iraqis have been displaced. The current government in Iraq is incompetent. There is no point invading a country, destroying it, try to rebuild it and then expect people to be happy. US also placed sanctions on Iraq which caused many problems.
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τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1463662 said:
It wasn't really in the name of freedom and I promise you they don't care who is in that seat by 'free fair and ''democratic''' elections so long as he who is seated carries the same amero-fundie/zionist agenda..You should see how they're sending their devils there every day to sow the seeds of discord create schisms and possibly the best of all for their interests a civil war...
Here in the U.S people think they have the freedom to choose too but they don't.. they all carry the same exact agenda and delude the people that they're free..
I was just reading about the raids on Amish farms
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/04/30/amish-milk-the-latest-target-of-the-obama-regulatory-state/
No one is spared in the police state if you don't conform to their idea of 'freedom, democracy' and other meaningless slogans ..pretty much all that will be left are cattle (non-whites) and masters (super rich white Zionist corporate america) power & money in the hands of a select few!
I agree with you here, sister. We are on the same side here.
Daily our freedoms are taken and most people don't even realize it. Most people just go along with whatever the government says. The government says that Muslims are responsible for 9/11, so most people just say "yeah, man. Get those fundies!"
Freedom of speech only applies so long as you agree with the majority. Try speaking a dissenting viewpoint and see how much freedom of speech you get. See how long it takes you to be labelled as a "racist" or "homophobe" or even "traitor". I know, I've been there. Recently I was labelled as a traitor to my race and to my country simply because I posted in another board that I am a white Muslim convert. I wasn't surprised by the reaction. It was what I expected given the circumstances. I mainly did it as a test. But my point is that I was given no chance to explain. So much for "free speech".
Just today I read that the poverty gap in the US is the largest it has ever been. The middle class is being eroded, and soon there will only be the very rich and the rest of us poor.
This is not the same country I was born in 35 years ago. I don't even recognize what the US has become now...
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It is scary isn't it.. I was looking into Canada today..I think it will just continue to get worst until there's a WWIII or an 'Armageddon' known in arabic as 'mal7ama' ...
There's nothing to lose when you've lost everything.. that's why effete invaders do so poorly in Afghanistan time & time again!
There's nothing to lose when you've lost everything.. that's why effete invaders do so poorly in Afghanistan time & time again!
Brother K of 9s, you hit the nail on the head with that one. The thing is though that I don't think the real sh** has hit the fan yet, but I believe it is coming in a BIG way. First there was vodoo economics, then NAFTA, then 9/11, then the Patriot Act, then 2 criminal and exceedingly expensive wars, then 2008 financial crisis with $$$$$$ bailout. What comes next only Allah (swt) knows.
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you're not the only one who feels it, here's a song which captures the mood:
some intriguing comments:
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I just read the book "9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out" which ends with this quote, "They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjugation." Vice President Wallace, April 9, 1944
One chapter that I found particularly intriguing was "9/11 and the 9/11 Wars: Understanding the Supreme Crimes" by John McMurtry PhD, FRSC
http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/McMurtry-9-11.pdf
One chapter that I found particularly intriguing was "9/11 and the 9/11 Wars: Understanding the Supreme Crimes" by John McMurtry PhD, FRSC
http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/McMurtry-9-11.pdf
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I think that some people see what is coming, but most people here in the US have become accustomed to our way of life. Some people are too scared to stand up against the government. The real problem though is that we have become too much of a welfare state for there to be any real revolution like what we have seen in Egypt and Libya. Too many people rely on the government for their way of life, and so whatever the government says to do, they do, because they don't want to lose that government check.
It's just a form of economic slavery. That's all it is.
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4. WHEN WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OUR COUP D'ETAT WE SHALL SAY THEN TO THE VARIOUS PEOPLES: "EVERYTHING HAS GONE TERRIBLY BADLY, ALL HAVE BEEN WORN OUT WITH SUFFERING. WE ARE DESTROYING THE CAUSES OF YOUR TORMENT - NATIONALITIES, FRONTIERS, DIFFERENCES OF COINAGES. YOU ARE AT LIBERTY, OF COURSE, TO PRONOUNCE SENTENCE UPON US, BUT CAN IT POSSIBLY BE A JUST ONE IF IT IS CONFIRMED BY YOU BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY TRIAL OF WHAT WE ARE OFFERING YOU." ... THEN WILL THE MOB EXALT US AND BEAR US UP IN THEIR HANDS IN A UNANIMOUS TRIUMPH OF HOPES AND EXPECTATIONS. VOTING, WHICH WE HAVE MADE THE INSTRUMENT WHICH WILL SET US ON THE THRONE OF THE WORLD BY TEACHING EVEN THE VERY SMALLEST UNITS OF MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE TO VOTE BY MEANS OF MEETINGS AND AGREEMENTS BY GROUPS, WILL THEN HAVE SERVED ITS PURPOSES AND WILL PLAY ITS PART THEN FOR THE LAST TIME BY A UNANIMITY OF DESIRE TO MAKE CLOSE ACQUAINTANCE WITH US BEFORE CONDEMNING US.
5. TO SECURE THIS WE MUST HAVE EVERYBODY VOTE WITHOUT DISTINCTION OF CLASSES AND QUALIFICATIONS, in order to establish an absolute majority, which cannot be got from the educated propertied classes. In this way, by inculcating in all a sense of self-importance, we shall destroy among the GOYIM the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the possibility of individual minds splitting off, for the mob, handled by us, will not let them come to the front nor even give them a hearing; it is accustomed to listen to us only who pay it for obedience and attention. In this way we shall create a blind, mighty force which will never be in a position to move in any direction without the guidance of our agents set at its head by us as leaders of the mob. The people will submit to this regime because it will know that upon these leaders will depend its earnings, gratifications and the receipt of all kinds of benefits.
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5. TO SECURE THIS WE MUST HAVE EVERYBODY VOTE WITHOUT DISTINCTION OF CLASSES AND QUALIFICATIONS, in order to establish an absolute majority, which cannot be got from the educated propertied classes. In this way, by inculcating in all a sense of self-importance, we shall destroy among the GOYIM the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the possibility of individual minds splitting off, for the mob, handled by us, will not let them come to the front nor even give them a hearing; it is accustomed to listen to us only who pay it for obedience and attention. In this way we shall create a blind, mighty force which will never be in a position to move in any direction without the guidance of our agents set at its head by us as leaders of the mob. The people will submit to this regime because it will know that upon these leaders will depend its earnings, gratifications and the receipt of all kinds of benefits.
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The USA goverment doesn't give a **** about the Iraqi people, the fact that they were being ruled by a tyrant had nothing to do with it and the suggestion that one of the reasons they went in there was to free the people from the reign of saddam is funny, what about all the tyrants across the entire world? what about Zimbabwe? and all the other countries who have tyrant oppressive leaders, the bottom line is, it don't matter how much of a SOB you are, as long as your their SOB you can do what you want, but the minute you change allegiances then your times up. this video is a good example of how they work, it's only 2 mins long watch it.
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great vid, have downloaded it fro my site, but even that fell short - they don't do it for the freedoms of the Amerikan people or the british people - rather they come out with a raft of tyrannical legislation every time they stage a false flag terror attack, this article from today is telling - considering their lies about freedom of speech:
[h=1]Liverpool to investigate 9/11 tweet from Nathan Eccleston[/h]Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:03 UK
Liverpool are investigating striker Nathan Eccleston for comments on Twitter that suggested the September 11 attacks were not the work of terrorists.
A tweet that has since been taken down said: "I ain't going to say attack don't let the media make u believe that was terrorist that did it. #OTIS."
OTIS reportedly stands for Only the Illuminati Succeed.
The 20-year-old has made nine first-team appearances for Liverpool.
A club statement said: "The club takes this matter extremely seriously and senior club officials have informed Nathan Eccleston that we are undertaking an investigation into the circumstances surrounding these postings and will decide on an appropriate course of action."
Eccleston, who has over 39,000 followers on the social-networking site, has since tweeted: "If you don't like what I have to say un follow me!! Some things get took way out of context..."
The Manchester-born striker has spent time on loan at Huddersfield Town and Charlton Athletic, and has played for the England Under-17 team.
even not believing the government story is considered shocking. despite all the past lies.
[h=1]Liverpool to investigate 9/11 tweet from Nathan Eccleston[/h]Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:03 UK
Liverpool are investigating striker Nathan Eccleston for comments on Twitter that suggested the September 11 attacks were not the work of terrorists.
A tweet that has since been taken down said: "I ain't going to say attack don't let the media make u believe that was terrorist that did it. #OTIS."
OTIS reportedly stands for Only the Illuminati Succeed.
The 20-year-old has made nine first-team appearances for Liverpool.
A club statement said: "The club takes this matter extremely seriously and senior club officials have informed Nathan Eccleston that we are undertaking an investigation into the circumstances surrounding these postings and will decide on an appropriate course of action."
Eccleston, who has over 39,000 followers on the social-networking site, has since tweeted: "If you don't like what I have to say un follow me!! Some things get took way out of context..."
The Manchester-born striker has spent time on loan at Huddersfield Town and Charlton Athletic, and has played for the England Under-17 team.
even not believing the government story is considered shocking. despite all the past lies.