The sudden death

Oke ranma1/2 here are all signs of the day of judgement (minor signs)

you choose which ones already happend! (mind you these predicitions are lets say 1400 years old)

# The disappearance of knowledge and the appearance of ignorance (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Ahmad)
# Books/writing will be widespread and (religious) knowledge will be low (Ahmad)
# Adultery and fornication will be prevalent (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that this has never happened without new diseases befalling the people, which their ancestors had not known.) (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Al-Haythami)
# When fornication becomes widespread among your leaders (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that this will happen when the people stop forbidding evil) (Ibn Majah)
# Adultery and fornication will be performed in the open
# The consumption of intoxicants will be widespread (Bukhari & Muslim)
# Women will outnumber men……eventually 50:1 (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad)
# Killing, killing, killing (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Ahmad)
# The nations of the earth will gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food. This will occur when the Muslims are large in number, but “like the foam of the sea”.
# People will beat others with whips like the tails of oxen (Muslim) ?The Slave Trade
# The children will be filled with rage (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# Children will be foul (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# Women will conspire (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# Rain will be acidic or burning (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# Children of fornication will become widespread or prevalent (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# When a trust becomes a means of making a profit (at-Tirmidhi, Al-Haythami)
# Gains will be shared out only among the rich, with no benefit to the poor (at-Tirmidhi)
# Paying zakat becomes a burden and miserliness becomes widespread; charity is given reluctantly (at-Tirmidhi & Al-Haythami)
# Miserliness will be thrown into the hearts of people (Bukhari)
# Episodes of sudden death will become widespread (Ahmad)
# There will be people who will be brethren in public but enemies in secret (He was asked how that would come about and replied, “Because they will have ulterior motives in their mutual dealings and at the same time will fear one another.”) (at-Tirmidhi)
# When a man obeys his wife and disobeys his mother; and treats his friend kindly while shunning his father (at-Tirmidhi)
# When voices are raised in the mosques (at-Tirmidhi)
# People will walk in the marketplace with their thighs exposed
# Great distances will be traversed in short spans of time
# The people of Iraq will recieve no food and no money due to oppression by the Romans (Europeans) (Muslim)
# People will hop between the clouds and the earth
# A tribulation will enter everyone�s home (Ahmad)
# The leader of a people will be the worst of them (at-Tirmidhi)
# Leaders of people will be oppressors (Al-Haythami)
# People will treat a man with respect out of fear for some evil he might do (at-Tirmidhi)
# Men will begin to wear silk (at-Tirmidhi)
# Female singers and musical instruments will become popular (at-Tirmidhi)
# When singers become common (Al-Haythami)
# People will dance late into the night
# When the last ones of the Ummah begin to curse the first ones (at-Tirmidhi)
# People will claim to follow the Qur’an but will reject hadith & sunnah (Abu Dawood)
# People will believe in the stars (Al-Haythami)
# People will reject al-Qadr (the Divine Decree of Destiny) (Al-Haythami)
# Time will pass rapidly (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad)
# Good deeds will decrease (Bukhari)
# Smog will appear over cities because of the evil that they are doing
# People will be carrying on with their trade, but their will only be a few trustworthy persons
# Wealth will increase so much so that if a man were given 10,000, he would not be content with it (Ahmad & Bukhari)
# A man will pass by a grave and wish that he was in their place (Bukhari)
# Earthquakes will increase (Bukhari & Muslim)
# There will be attempts to make the deserts green
# The appearance of false messengers (30 dajjals) (Bukhari)
# Women will be naked in spite of being dressed, these women will be led astray & will lead others astray (Muslim)
# The conquest of Constantinople by the Muslims (Ahmad)
# The conquest of India by the Muslims, just prior to the return of Jesus, son of Mary (peace be upon both of them)(Ahmad, an-Nisa’i, at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# When people begin to compete with others in the construction of taller buildings (Bukhari)
# There will be a special greeting for the people of distinction (Ahmad)
# The Euphrates will disclose a treasure (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that whoever is present should not take anything from it) (Bukhari & Muslim)
# Two large groups, adhering to the same religious teaching will fight each other with large numbers of casualties (Bukhari & Muslim)
# Wild animals will be able to talk to humans (Ahmad)
# A man will leave his home and his thigh or hip will tell him what is happening back at his home (Ahmad)
# Years of deceit in which the truthful person will not be believed and the liar will be believed (Ahmad)
# Bearing false witness will become widespread (Al-Haythami & Ahmad)
# When men lie with men and women lie with women (Al-Haythami)
# Trade will become so widespread that a woman will be forced to help her husband in business (Ahmad)
# A woman will enter the workforce out of love for this world (Ahmad)
# Arrogance will increase in the earth (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# Family ties will be cut (Ahmad)
# There will be many women of child-bearing age who will no longer give birth.
# There will be an abundance of food, much of which has no blessing in it.
# People will refuse when offerred food.
# Men will begin to look like women and women will begin to look like men Source.
 
About 90% of those have been applicable since the start of civilisation. They're all a bit general and would hardly count as prophecies.
 
Hamada said:
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# Women will outnumber men……eventually 50:1 (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad)
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this is about the only real one that is unusual.
apart from that, are you still interested in giving me that loan?
and im still not sure which doomsday prophecy came true. didte world end yet?
 
ranma1/2 said:
this is about the only real one that is unusual.
apart from that, are you still interested in giving me that loan?
and im still not sure which doomsday prophecy came true. didte world end yet?
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I believe that those are the small signs, that is the prerequisites.

The big signs as far as i can remember:
-A couple of signs need not be mentioned here..
-The emergence of Dajjal.
-The reappearance of 'Isa AS to kill the Dajjal.
-The talking of a certain animal to humans.
-etc.

I hope someone could point me to a good book on them though..

The end of the world itself should witness:
-The rising of the sun from the west
-The blowing off mountains the same way you can blow feathers.
-etc.

The point is, are u ready to cope with the truth when it eventually set forth to you? I hope the moment it does you still have the chance to repent, though it's unlikely the case.
 
Hamada said:
# Books/writing will be widespread and (religious) knowledge will be low (Ahmad)
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Would you consider this to be in conflict with your obligation to spread the message of God? If God has set it in stone that people will get less religious as time goes on, he's told you that and you're aware of it, what's the sense in you trying to convert people to Islam when according to that there won't be many truly religious people around.
The more people you convert, the further you get from your own prophecy.
 

# The disappearance of knowledge and the appearance of ignorance vauge
# Books/writing will be widespread and (religious) knowledge will be low
vague and could be for anytime, id say knowlege now is being better retained than in the past. although if a society were to start to collapse the restirction,destruction of knowlege wouldnt be a surprise. (book burning, prevention of music, art ect....)


# Adultery and fornication will be prevalent .
# When fornication becomes widespread among your leaders
# Adultery and fornication will be performed in the open
# The consumption of intoxicants will be widespread (Bukhari & Muslim)

clearly a statment of what the speaker dislikes.


# Killing, killing, killing (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Ahmad)
nothing old, nothing new.

# The nations of the earth will gather against the Muslims
of course they would see this as the end of the world. however i dont see this happening and most religions eventually die off.


# People will beat others with whips like the tails of oxen (Muslim) ?
vague and nothing new at the time, although i like to think its less common these days.

# The children will be filled with rage (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# Children will be foul (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# Women will conspire (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

vague and nothing new. speaker seems to have trouble with kids and women.


# Rain will be acidic or burning (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
neat. fire from the sky too? why do the end of the world stuff never go against type... (god decided to make earth paradise before he ends it.　Nope lets give em hell.)

# Children of fornication will become widespread or prevalent
redundent from above, speaker still has personal issues.

# When a trust becomes a means of making a profit
# Gains will be shared out only among the rich, with no benefit to the poor
# Paying zakat becomes a burden and miserliness becomes widespread; charity is given reluctantly
# Miserliness will be thrown into the hearts of people
# Episodes of sudden death will become widespread
# There will be people who will be brethren in public but enemies in secret
once again vague and nothing new.


# When a man obeys his wife and disobeys his mother; and treats his friend kindly while shunning his father (at-Tirmidhi)
once again this guy has issues, and vauge and nothing new.

# When voices are raised in the mosques (at-Tirmidhi)
Oh noos someone spoke in church, the end days are nigh....

# People will walk in the marketplace with their thighs exposed
once again speaker comments on what he dislikes.

# Great distances will be traversed in short spans of time.
vague, and can be expected.

# The people of Iraq will recieve no food and no money due to oppression by the Romans (Europeans) (Muslim)
europeans, romans? which is it? also nothing new. fears of speaker perhaps related to the times.

# People will hop between the clouds and the earth
vague.
# A tribulation will enter everyone�s home (Ahmad)
well that might be expected, still vague.

# The leader of a people will be the worst of them (at-Tirmidhi)
# Leaders of people will be oppressors (Al-Haythami)
# People will treat a man with respect out of fear for some evil he might do
]vauge, nothing new.


# Men will begin to wear silk (at-Tirmidhi)
OMG did you see what he was wearing? once again dislikes of speaker. (silk feels quite nice mine you, perhaps you should try some silk boxers.)

# Female singers and musical instruments will become popular (at-Tirmidhi)
# When singers become common (Al-Haythami)
# People will dance late into the night
You know this by now, speakers comments on dislikes.

# When the last ones of the Ummah begin to curse the first ones (at-Tirmidhi)
Dont know what ummah is.


# People will claim to follow the Qur’an but will reject hadith & sunnah
once again, nothing new and speakers dislikes.

# People will believe in the stars (Al-Haythami)
Wow imagine that, stars are real.. OMG end times are Neigh....


# People will reject al-Qadr (the Divine Decree of Destiny) (Al-Haythami)
once again say it with me. speakers fears, dislikes..]

# Time will pass rapidly (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad)
huh?　vague. perhaps he ment time is subjective and as you have fun it passes quicker

# Good deeds will decrease (Bukhari)
to be expected as societies decline, i see nothing realy new about this.
as a matter of fact i think society over all has improved and more good is done in the past.

# Smog will appear over cities because of the evil that they are doing
evil? yes, thos evil pron clouds poping up all over the place, yesterday there was this weird cloud hanging over the concert hall.

# People will be carrying on with their trade, but their will only be a few trustworthy persons
# Wealth will increase so much so that if a man were given 10,000, he would not be content with it (Ahmad & Bukhari)
# A man will pass by a grave and wish that he was in their place (Bukhari)
# Earthquakes will increase (Bukhari & Muslim)
once again nothing new.


# There will be attempts to make the deserts green
I saw the movie Dune too...
Of course who wouldnt try to grow stuff in the desert if you lived there.


# The appearance of false messengers (30 dajjals) (Bukhari)
every religion pick your own false prophet.

# Women will be naked in spite of being dressed, these women will be led astray & will lead others astray (Muslim)
Speakers dislikes.

# The conquest of Constantinople by the Muslims (Ahmad)
at best self fullfilling.


# The conquest of India by the Muslims, just prior to the return of Jesus, son of Mary (peace be upon both of them)(Ahmad, an-Nisa’i, at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
1st part, self fulffilling, jesus not yet shown up, get backt o me when he does.


# When people begin to compete with others in the construction of taller buildings (Bukhari)
Babel reference and vague?

# There will be a special greeting for the people of distinction (Ahmad)
Yes sir! and vague and nothign new.
# The Euphrates will disclose a treasure
vague.


# Two large groups, adhering to the same religious teaching will fight each other with large numbers of casualties
vague too... and nothing new.

# Wild animals will be able to talk to humans (Ahmad)
Poly wanta cracker.... or are you meaning ants? Or perhaps you dang dirty apes....
Get back to me on this.

# A man will leave his home and his thigh or hip will tell him what is happening back at his home (Ahmad)
? why my ankle hurts when its going to rain. vague.

# Years of deceit in which the truthful person will not be believed and the liar will be believed (Ahmad)
# Bearing false witness will become widespread (Al-Haythami & Ahmad)
nothing new.

# When men lie with men and women lie with women (Al-Haythami)
well when women are 50-1 you have to expect new relationships to develope. seriously though, speakers dislikes again.

# Trade will become so widespread that a woman will be forced to help her husband in business (Ahmad)
# A woman will enter the workforce out of love for this world (Ahmad)
# Arrogance will increase in the earth (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
# Family ties will be cut (Ahmad)
# There will be many women of child-bearing age who will no longer give birth.
once again, vague, nothign new ect...

# There will be an abundance of food, much of which has no blessing in it.
huh? blessing in it? ill ahve to check the ingredients lable.

# People will refuse when offerred food.
well you shoulndt over eat, and vague.

# Men will begin to look like women and women will begin to look like men Source. n othing new, speakers fears ect...
 
ranma1/2 i dont know whether to laugh at your ignorance, or to laugh at your ignorance. I'll go for the latter one!

You need to understand that after islam was established none of these was occuring it all stopped. It is simply is telling that it will happen in abudance, guess what it is happening now..... and guess agian!! at time when islam was well established this wasnt the case!

Also to note out that this text, is obtained roughly 1400 years ago.
 
:salamext:

^ They are in various hadiths sister, as shown on the end of them e.g. (Bukhari, Ahmad, Tabrani, Tirmidhi)
 
Hamada said:
ranma1/2 ..You need to understand that after islam was established none of these was occuring it all stopped. It is simply is telling that it will happen in abudance, guess what it is happening now..... and guess agian!! at time when islam was well established this wasnt the case!

Also to note out that this text, is obtained roughly 1400 years ago.
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I think you should establish this claim. Provide evidence. till then i think its very fair to call the claim BS, reality seems to contradict it.
 
:salamext:

^ Dont u have anything better do ? I mean other than waste people time because u continue to be ignorant again and again?

www.islamreligion.com

^ You'll find all ur answers there
 
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"ABD Allah ibn 'Amr said, "I went to the Prophet (peace be upon him) one day whilst he was performing Wudu' (ablution) slowly and carefully. He raised his head, looked at me and said, 'Six things will happen to this Ummah: the death of your Prophet - 'and when I heard that I was aghast,' - this is the first. The second is that your wealth will increase so much that if a man were given ten thousand, he would still not be content with it. The third is that tribulation will enter the house of every one of you. The fourth is that sudden death will be widespread. The fifth is a peace-treaty between you and the Romans: they will gather troops against you for nine months - like a woman's period of childbearing - then they will be the first to break the treaty. The sixth is the conquest of a city.' I asked, 'O Messenger of Allah, which city?' He said, 'Constantinople." (Ahmad.)

Source
 
AhLÄÄM said:
:salamext:

"ABD Allah ibn 'Amr said, "I went to the Prophet (peace be upon him) ...He raised his head, looked at me and said, '

Six things will happen to this Ummah:
1 the death of your Prophet - 'and when I heard that I was aghast,' - this is the first.
2 The second is that your wealth will increase so much that if a man were given ten thousand, he would still not be content with it.
3 The third is that tribulation will enter the house of every one of you.
4 The fourth is that sudden death will be widespread.
5 The fifth is a peace-treaty between you and the Romans: they will gather troops against you for nine months - like a woman's period of childbearing - then they will be the first to break the treaty.
6 The sixth is the conquest of a city.' I asked, 'O Messenger of Allah, which city?' He said, 'Constantinople." (Ahmad.)

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so it looks like hamada was taking these prophecies out of context(imagine that), it looks like they are reffering to listeners nation/ummah.

I could argee that these are fair ideas of what may preceed the end of that nation but hardly the end of the world. (war, imagine that )
 
ranma1/2 said:
so it looks like hamada was taking these prophecies out of context(imagine that), it looks like they are reffering to listeners nation/ummah.

I could argee that these are fair ideas of what may preceed the end of that nation but hardly the end of the world. (war, imagine that )
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would you just get a grip! seriously, there's sections for these type of arguments. sheesh!!! and comin from a pro-darwinist :rollseyes
 
Since people are getting a bit tetchy, feel free not to answer this, but I am genuinely interested and i'm not just trying to stir it up.
Hamada said:
You need to understand that after islam was established none of these was occuring it all stopped. It is simply is telling that it will happen in abudance, guess what it is happening now..... and guess agian!! at time when islam was well established this wasnt the case!

Also to note out that this text, is obtained roughly 1400 years ago.
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I thought that the words said were supposed to hold true for all people for all time, otherwise why would people still be expected to follow it, and why would all people be judged in the final days... but it sounds like you're excusing it because of when it was revealed.
Yes while there may have been a small group of arabs who were following the teachings to the letter back in the day the whole rest of the world was acting as it always has done and most of these prophecies, particularly regarding behaviour, could have been fulfilled by non-muslims at any time in history.

I wouldn't mind some serious opinions on this, thanks
 
Azy said:
Since people are getting a bit tetchy, feel free not to answer this, but I am genuinely interested and i'm not just trying to stir it up.

I thought that the words said were supposed to hold true for all people for all time, otherwise why would people still be expected to follow it, and why would all people be judged in the final days... but it sounds like you're excusing it because of when it was revealed.

Yes while there may have been a small group of arabs who were following the teachings to the letter back in the day the whole rest of the world was acting as it always has done and most of these prophecies, particularly regarding behaviour, could have been fulfilled by non-muslims at any time in history.

I wouldn't mind some serious opinions on this, thanks
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no you are mistaken, the impac the revival of islaam had from the time of muhammad sallallahi alaihi wasallaam can even be seen today.

just from the fact that people even in this day and age are willing to give up their whole lives just to follow in their footsteps. And i know just in my little circle so many people, i wonder how many more are out there.

And the generation of the prophet is admitted to be the best, therefore it wasnt just a "small few" but rather a great many!

research....
 
AhLÄÄM said:
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"ABD Allah ibn 'Amr said, "I went to the Prophet (peace be upon him) one day whilst he was performing Wudu' (ablution) slowly and carefully. He raised his head, looked at me and said, 'Six things will happen to this Ummah: the death of your Prophet - 'and when I heard that I was aghast,' - this is the first. The second is that your wealth will increase so much that if a man were given ten thousand, he would still not be content with it. The third is that tribulation will enter the house of every one of you. The fourth is that sudden death will be widespread. The fifth is a peace-treaty between you and the Romans: they will gather troops against you for nine months - like a woman's period of childbearing - then they will be the first to break the treaty. The sixth is the conquest of a city.' I asked, 'O Messenger of Allah, which city?' He said, 'Constantinople." (Ahmad.)

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Wa'aleikum essalam wr.. wb..

Wallaahi, today I cried because of sudden death of a good brother.
Whom I knew not much about, he only was a neighbour in my new locality.
He was happy talking and playing around, slept at about 1:30 am but after an hour complained about heart pain and immediately passed away onto His Lord.

I used to visit him now and then and we had a good understanding and friendship, but it so happened that I was not able to visit him for about last two weeks. And when I came to know about his sudden death, it made me so depressed that I can't express. It made me feel as if I was guilty of it! I did not visited him and he got worried.

This also reminded me of my own death, he was likely of my age about 19. The neighbours only say good about him. I wished I would also soon return back to my Lord and join His righteous slaves in His Paradise, to rest and satisfaction, being well-pleased with my Lord and He with me.

Please remember him in your righteous du'a, may Allah forgive his sins and keep him safe from trials after death.

Inna lillahi wa inna laihi raji'un
Surely to Allah we belong and to him we shall return.
 

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