Things in Islam I am curious about...

Oft times I hear people say "And Allah knows best" at the end of something. At first I just thought it was when people didn't really know the answer, but as in the link provided above, it seems that it is also used when they do indeed have answers, specific answers even. So, what is the idea behind saying "And Allah knows best." when what one is saying is believed to be the revealed word of Allah? Other times it is offered when the person readily admits they themselves have no clue and are just offering speculation. Is the phrase meant to actually convey anything to the once to whom they are speaking, or is it used like other phrases such as "God is Great" simply as an affirmation of one's own faith?
 
Grace Seeker said:
Oft times I hear people say "And Allah knows best" at the end of something. At first I just thought it was when people didn't really know the answer, but as in the link provided above, it seems that it is also used when they do indeed have answers, specific answers even. So, what is the idea behind saying "And Allah knows best." when what one is saying is believed to be the revealed word of Allah? Other times it is offered when the person readily admits they themselves have no clue and are just offering speculation. Is the phrase meant to actually convey anything to the once to whom they are speaking, or is it used like other phrases such as "God is Great" simply as an affirmation of one's own faith?
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It's contextual based; sometimes it refers to situations where one doesn't fully know. In other occasions it is simply stating that: Allah knows best. There's not much more to it really.
 
Grace Seeker said:
Oft times I hear people say "And Allah knows best" at the end of something. At first I just thought it was when people didn't really know the answer, but as in the link provided above, it seems that it is also used when they do indeed have answers, specific answers even. So, what is the idea behind saying "And Allah knows best." when what one is saying is believed to be the revealed word of Allah? Other times it is offered when the person readily admits they themselves have no clue and are just offering speculation. Is the phrase meant to actually convey anything to the once to whom they are speaking, or is it used like other phrases such as "God is Great" simply as an affirmation of one's own faith?
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I use "allah knows best" as a sort of disclaimer, a lot of the time.
 
The idea of it as a disclaimer makes me think of a story with my daughter several years ago. She came to live with us as an exchange student from Thailand, She was Buddhist, and so a lot of our patterns were foreign to her. But she tried to be at least tolerant of them, and to a degree even accepting. One of the things that she accepted was that we prayed at meals. And of course every prayer ended with "AMEN." She would also visit church with us. Even not believing she enjoyed the chance to hang out with other teenagers that it afforded. And again she would hear prayers that all ended with "AMEN". And in the liturgy of the church all of the hymns and nearly everything else ended with "AMEN".

So, one day we had a small conflict on something in the house and I was needing to talk with her about it. Sadly, sometimes my "talk with" can turn into "lecture at", and it did on this occassion. And when I took a breath, she interrupted to indicate that she had heard enough: "Ok, OK. AMEN. AMEN."
 
There is something I wanted to ask:

When Muslims say that Allah sent the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) to mankind, do they believe that both were word for word like the Qu'ran is today?
Or that the message was the same, but the wording may have been different?
(I am assuming that at the very least neither Taurat nor Injeel would have been sent in Arabic)

From a Muslim perspective can any of the Torah and Gospel be seen as credible?

I mean, the Gospel is absolutely nothing like the Qu'ran. If it was ever supposed to be the same, it wouldn't be so much corrupted as completely rewritten!
 
Salaam/peace;

glo said:
(I am assuming that at the very least neither Taurat nor Injeel would have been sent in Arabic)
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God sent Prophets to all nations & blessed some Prophets with holy books in their mother tongue.

From a Muslim perspective can any of the Torah and Gospel be seen as credible?
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anything that goes against the Quran is not credible . The messages we find about oneness of God without partner/other deities there .....to my knowledge..... are credible .

I mean, the Gospel is absolutely nothing like the Qu'ran.
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Oneness of God , praises of God , how God will take revenge if anyone worship other deities ....many things are
common :)



Holy books came in different languages ; U can't compare the translations with the original Arabic language.
:)
 
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glo said:
When Muslims say that Allah sent the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) to mankind, do they believe that both were word for word like the Qu'ran is today?
Or that the message was the same, but the wording may have been different?
(I am assuming that at the very least neither Taurat nor Injeel would have been sent in Arabic)
From a Muslim perspective can any of the Torah and Gospel be seen as credible?
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Muslims believe in three other scriptures which were revealed other than the Quran. the Torah, the Zabur, and the Injeel.

The Torah was revealed to Musa (alaihi salam), exactly how the Quran was revealed to Muhammad (alaihi salatu wa salam). Unlike the Quran, however, the Torah was revealed all at once. The Torah contained guidance and instructions for the children of Israel to follow. Over time, it became corrupted as the rabbis and scribes added some things to it. For example, if you read the Torah that you find today, you will find strange stories, like how Angels came in the form of human being to have conjugal relations with human beings. These are mythologies and stories which the rabbis and scribes added to the Torah, because they were influenced by pagan mythology. Islam can never accept such stories which defame the Angels.

The Zabur was revealed to Dawud (alaihi salam), a prophet and a king. It contained beautiful praises and glorifications of Allah. However, if you read the Pslams that you find today, you will find some psalms are attributed to David, and some are attributed to other people. Some bible critics even believe that many of the psalms attributed to David are concoctions.

The Injeel or Gospel is the most complex situation. The Injeel was revealed to Jesus, they are like hadith qudsi, sayings of Jesus which Allah inspired him to say. The Gospel of today, however, is not entirely the words and sayings of Jesus. You have the writers Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, inserting their own commentary into the Gospel, as well as additional books included in the "New Testament".

Though Allah revealed all these scriptures in their original form, He did not promise to safeguard them. This promise was only given for the Holy Quran, it will be protected from corruption and change, and this promise has proven to be true.
 
glo said:
There is something I wanted to ask:

When Muslims say that Allah sent the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) to mankind, do they believe that both were word for word like the Qu'ran is today?
Or that the message was the same, but the wording may have been different?
(I am assuming that at the very least neither Taurat nor Injeel would have been sent in Arabic)

From a Muslim perspective can any of the Torah and Gospel be seen as credible?

I mean, the Gospel is absolutely nothing like the Qu'ran. If it was ever supposed to be the same, it wouldn't be so much corrupted as completely rewritten!
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The torah was given to Musa (as) and he expressed the Torah in his life, So did Isa (as)for the Injeel, however the books you have today are not the same as the new testatment is more like a hadith then the word of God as it is written by different people, from different times and different places. Some of the writters never met Isa (as) too unlike the hadiths which all can be linked back to the companinons of the prophet through authentic chain of narration and scienece of Hadith.

On top of that the Quran specificly tells us where the modern day bible is going wrong as Allah swt wants the people of the book to come back to the true teachings of all the prophets of God.

May Allah guide you to the true path.
 
fromgenesis said:
Muslim Woman said:
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this thread is for asking Christians . So , if u want to know in details , pl. ask in Things in Islam I am curious about or start a new thread.

In short , Muslims do believe Chirst (p) will come back before the last day & will kill the anti Christ (p).
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I may be out of line asking the question, as this is questions to Christians but if you will forgive me, why would Christ come back in Muslim theology and what would He come to do?
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Originally posted elsewhere, but makes more sense here.
 
Because Islam is truth and the second coming of Christ is a fact and therefor Christ come back in Muslim theology.
 
anatolian said:
Because Islam is truth and the second coming of Christ is a fact and therefor Christ come back in Muslim theology.
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Anatolian, most Christians are probably not aware that this is as much a part of the Islamic understanding of the end of the world as it is in the Christian faith, maybe you could provide a little more information about exactly when it is that Jesus is supposed to return and what it is that Jesus will actually do when he returns.
 
I find it interesting that Jesus is supposed to come back in Islam. What is it about Jesus in the Islamic sense that separates Jesus from other prophets, such as Muhammed?
 
Interesting question, Keltoi!

We believe that Jesus (AHS) is the only prophet who still hasn't died.

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them [or it appeared so unto them], and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.
—Qur'an 4:157

I can't answer otherwise, this is all i know. :)
 
The Khan said:
Interesting question, Keltoi!

We believe that Jesus (AHS) is the only prophet who still hasn't died.

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them [or it appeared so unto them], and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.
—Qur'an 4:157

I can't answer otherwise, this is all i know. :)
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If I understand you correctly, you say that Jesus still walks the earth? How would He then come back if He never left?

Please help me out on what Christ's role will be and why Him?
 
salaam

Isa (as) doesnt walk the earh but in the Quran Allah says that God raised Isa up.

Quran Translation of the meaning below -

157. And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allâh," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

158. But Allâh raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allâh is Ever All*Powerful, All*Wise.

159. And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), but must believe in him ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of Allâh and a human being], before his ['Iesa (Jesus) or a Jew's or a Christian's] death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death). And on the Day of Resurrection, he ['Iesa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them.

End Quran Translation of the meaning.

Source - http://www.noblequran.com/translation/index.html

You should definitly read the Quran, especially if your a christain as Allah (God) speaks to them specfically and tells them where they are going wrong.

peace.
 
fromgenesis said:
If I understand you correctly, you say that Jesus still walks the earth? How would He then come back if He never left?

Please help me out on what Christ's role will be and why Him?
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Just as Christians believe the crucified and resurrected Jesus ascended to heaven, similarly Muslims believe the never crucified Jesus ascended to heaven. Both believe that he will come again in the last days, though there are significant difference in what the implications of that coming means to different groups of people, but both have a sort of armageadon, last battle expection which Jesus ultimately wins to establish a world order in conformity to God/Allah's will.

(Dear Muslime friends, please correct me if I have mis-spoken regarding your views.)
 
^you've got it; just to clarify, in his 2nd coming he (peace be upon him) will not randomly fight the non-believers for the sake of killing due to their disbelief.
 
fromgenesis said:
If I understand you correctly, you say that Jesus still walks the earth? How would He then come back if He never left?

Please help me out on what Christ's role will be and why Him?
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You would understand once you analyze Matthew More. The name Jesus is actually English, but English is not his language but Aramaic. He is from Palestine. its Actually Isa. As Muslim we believe that he has a 2nd coming that would correct every about his followers who actually worships him, while when he was at the cross he called to God and he said "Eli, Eli, La ma sabachtani"

Eli - in the bible, english accent. but if its Aramaic accent and language, its Elah or Elahi if you watched passion of the christ, you would understand.

In Arabic, Allah, in Aramaic Ellah,Elah or Elahi

Hope this help a bit, but again please Analayze The Gospel of Matthew.

May God' peace and blessings be upon you all.
 

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