Things in Islam I am curious about...

[AhlaamBella]

Gosh. Maybe it is one of those horrible times when people confuse their culture with their religion. I hate that :heated:

 

[~SkYWaLkeR~]

I don't think good music is haram, the problem is that their is no good music, most of the music is about non sense that doesn't do you any good, in fact it harms you.
It is also a waste of time and it distracts you.
But good music that has good meanings and proper words is fine.

 

[crayon]

Your friend is wrong.

Circumcision for males is considered an important rite of initiation in Islam. It is a part of the legacy of the Prophet Ibrahim, peace and blessings be upon him, whose role model we have been ordered to follow in the Qur’an. It is, therefore, a highly significant rite in Islam, which distinguishes Muslim males from others.

When we come to the issue of “Female circumcision”, however, the mater is quite different. There is nothing in the sources, either the Qur’an or the Sunnah, to suggest that it is a PRESCRIBED ritual of initiation for women in Islam.

While one finds a number of traditions from the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, which clearly indicates that he ordered pagan males who converted to undergo circumcision, it is not stated anywhere that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, ordered any woman who entered Islam to undergo this practice.

Because there is no absolute proof from the sources of Islam prescribing female circumcision, the vast majority of scholars do not include it in the OBLIGATORY rituals of Islam.

It is common knowledge in Islam that if the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, had wanted female circumcision to be an integral aspect of religious practice in Islam the same way that male circumcision is, he would have said so clearly. Since he did not do so, we can safely assume it is not a prescribed ritual of Islam.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...h-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545826

 

[AhlaamBella]

I don't think good music is haram, the problem is that their is no good music, most of the music is about non sense that doesn't do you any good, in fact it harms you.
It is also a waste of time and it distracts you.
But good music that has good meanings and proper words is fine.

Sure the lyrics need to be checked but also, the haraam part is in the instruments themselves. I'll see if I can find the hadith

 

[Muezzin]

Actually I was also suprised, thats why I kept on asking and asking. But he was sure what he was saying, he said that girls in South East Asia also have this.

They may well do. But he's wrong in saying that it's a part of Islam. It's not, I personally disagree with it, and if anyone said my mother or sister or any other female relative was impure because they have not had this barbaric operation, I'd slug 'em one.

Figuratively speaking.

But seriously, because he mentioned cleanliness, I think he may be getting confused with women who are menstruating - they're not supposed to pray on their menses.

 

[Amadeus85]

Ok thanks for Your kind answers, that cleared up my mind bit, bt I guess that my friend isnt going to be persuaded. .

 

[Amadeus85]

They may well do. But he's wrong in saying that it's a part of Islam. It's not, I personally disagree with it, and if anyone said my mother or sister or any other female relative was impure because they have not had this barbaric operation, I'd slug 'em one.

Figuratively speaking.

But seriously, because he mentioned cleanliness, I think he may be getting confused with women who are menstruating - they're not supposed to pray on their menses.

No, he didnt mean menstruation. He said, clearly, that all girls in his country have this, as this is part of the religion. I was suprised too, honestly.

 

[Muezzin]

No, he didnt mean menstruation. He said, clearly, that all girls in his country have this, as this is part of the religion. I was suprised too, honestly.

Hmm. Well, he's wrong, and if I met him, I'd give him a... a... a jolly good talking to.

 

[Amadeus85]

Hmm. Well, he's wrong, and if I met him, I'd give him a... a... a jolly good talking to.

Ok thanks, I hope to hear answers from the muslim women from different parts of the muslim world, arab, turkish, pakistani. That would clear the problem.

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/peace

No, he didnt mean menstruation. He said, clearly, that all girls in his country have this, as this is part of the religion. I was suprised too, honestly.

which country he is from ? I am from South Asia ; never heard that it's compulsory for Muslim women .

 

[Grace Seeker]

Salaam/peace

which country he is from ? I am from South Asia ; never heard that it's compulsory for Muslim women .

Even if it is not complusory, is it customary where you live? I've noticed that many people, in all cultures, have a tendency to grow up having adopted certain cultural patterns as the accepted custom or pattern for routine living, and then because they know nothing else mistakenly conclude that they are a complusory element of their society, religion, laws, etc. I wonder if that is what is going on in this case?

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/ Peace

Even if it is not complusory, is it customary where you live?

No . Never heard of any such incident so far. I think , there is a hadith where Prophet (p) said it can be done if necessary . Don't know why Africans made it almost compulsory for women.

 

[Grace Seeker]

Salaam/ Peace




No . Never heard of any such incident so far. I think , there is a hadith where Prophet (p) said it can be done if necessary . Don't know why Africans made it almost compulsory for women.

Please define "necessary"? From my understanding it most certainly is not ever necessary. So, how does one come to apply the "if necessary" clause?

 

[Muslim Woman]

In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful

Salaam/ Peace

Please define "necessary"?

related links : IS FEMALE CIRCUMCISION REQUIRED

..i[FONT=Tahoma, Arial]n some countries like Egypt, female circumcision has been practiced by both Muslims and Christians. [3] In the meantime, this practice is not known in most Muslim countries including Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia. [4] This leads to the conclusion that female circumcision is connected with cultural practices rather than with Islam itself as a world religion[/FONT]

..[FONT=Tahoma, Arial]No mention of female circumcision is to be found in the Qur'an either directly or indirectly

[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma, Arial] Hadeeth[/FONT]...."Cut off only the foreskin (outer fold of skin over the clitoris; the prepuce) but do not cut off deeply (i.e. the clitoris itself), for this is brighter for the face (of the girl) and more favorable with the husband."


http://www.jannah.org/genderequity/equityappendix.html

Female Circumcision: Is It Really Obligatory?​

..Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, Canada:

“Circumcision for males is considered an important rite of initiation in Islam. It is a part of the legacy of the Prophet Ibrahim, peace and blessings be upon him, whose role model we have been ordered to follow in the Qur’an. It is, therefore, a highly significant rite in Islam, which distinguishes Muslim males from others.

When we come to the issue of “Female circumcision”, however, the mater is quite different. There is nothing in the sources, either the Qur’an or the Sunnah, to suggest that it is a PRESCRIBED ritual of initiation for women in Islam.

While one finds a number of traditions from the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, which clearly indicates that he ordered pagan males who converted to undergo circumcision, it is not stated anywhere that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, ordered any woman who entered Islam to undergo this practice.

Because there is no absolute proof from the sources of Islam prescribing female circumcision, the vast majority of scholars do not include it in the OBLIGATORY rituals of Islam.


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...h-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545826

Islamic Ruling on Female Circumcision


..Before delving deep into the question of female circumcision, we would like to make it clear that "female circumcision" means removing the prepuce of the clitoris, not the clitoris itself.



Yusuf Al-Qaradawi :...Actually, this is a controversial issue among jurists and even among doctors. It has sparked off fierce debate in Egypt whereby scholars and doctors are split into proponents and opponents.

However, the most moderate opinion and the most likely one to be correct is in favor of practicing circumcision in the moderate Islamic way indicated in some of the Prophet's hadiths – even though such hadiths are not confirmed to be authentic.



It is reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said to a midwife: "Reduce the size of the clitoris but do not exceed the limit, for that is better for her health and is preferred by husbands". The hadith indicates that circumcision is better for a woman's health and it enhances her conjugal relation with her husband. It’s noteworthy that the Prophet's saying "do not exceed the limit" means do not totally remove the clitoris.


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..it is not obligatory, whoever finds it serving the interest of his daughters should do it, and I personally support this under the current circumstances in the modern world. But whoever chooses not to do it is not considered to have committed a sin for it is mainly meant to dignify women as held by scholars.

Allah Almighty knows best.​

 

[Malaikah]

Regardless of whether circumcision for females is obligatory/permissible/forbidden or whatever - the common practise that occurs in some parts of Africa where everything is removed or almost everything - that is not circumcision. It's mutilation and cruel and has no place in Islam at all. It's like a person castrating a boy calling that circumcision. It's just a whole world of difference.

Female circumcision does occur in other places, for example, Malaysia where it is the norm. However, it's just a small snip, done by a qualified person in a control environment etc. It isn't barbaric or mutilating.

It's important to keep in mind the difference between action circumcision and what happens in some places.

 

[Keltoi]

Regardless of our faiths, I'm sure we can all agree that the female mutilation that occurs in places like Africa is sinful.

 

[MO783]

Music is no good because it can make a person feel emotions, like happy, sad etc in there hearts

 

[The Khan]

Allah-u-Abha (God is Glorious),

I have declared myself as a member of the Baha'i faith. What is the Sunni Muslim ruling for this act? I wish to come out openly and tell all my family members that I am Baha'i. So far, the only ones who know are my father and sister, who are very liberal Muslims. However, my mother's family is salafi. I guess you can understand my situation.

Peace, love, and light,

Minhaj

 

[BoredAgnostic]

Music is no good because it can make a person feel emotions, like happy, sad etc in there hearts

Eh..whats wrong with feeling emotions, especially positive ones like happiness? I guess thoughts should be forbidden as well..since they trigger emotions too.

 

[Grace Seeker]

Allah-u-Abha (God is Glorious),

I have declared myself as a member of the Baha'i faith. What is the Sunni Muslim ruling for this act? I wish to come out openly and tell all my family members that I am Baha'i. So far, the only ones who know are my father and sister, who are very liberal Muslims. However, my mother's family is salafi. I guess you can understand my situation.

Peace, love, and light,

Minhaj

I think this is an important question that The Khan is asking. Isn't there anyone who can give him guidance?