things wrong with today's muslims

[Ourra-Tul-'Ain]

Re: things wrong in islam

yeh same here thats exactly what i got told when i asked a girl why doesnt she wear the hijab after all u r a muslim
but i guess that many girls dont wear the hijab cuz they dont like to show that they r muslim

sallam sister's

trust me, saying to another sister that does not where the hijab "y don’t u where the hijab" is like soo the wrong way to go about it.

inshallah firstly discuss our lovely deen in general, the hijab subject should not be the first thing that comes out your mouth. the sister will only feel like your being patronising or something along those lines.

then maybe when you have made her feel the awe of Islam, u should mention how u maybe started praying, so it only made sense that you wear the hijab instead of taking it in a bag and wiping it out during prayer times....(well what ever your story is lol:giggling: .) hope u get my drift

sallam


lol, let me just add one more thing. What if the sister does not even pray. See u just never know, that’s why you should discuss the deen in general first, see what her reasons are and to kind of examine her understanding of the deen, so inshallah you will be able to understand her better (with out judgment, this sister could be better than you and me tomorrow. Only Allah knows)

 

[welcome_islam]

Re: things wrong in islam

yeh true,,,people at school used to say stuf to me but i stood up to them once and they stopped so it was cool and now they havent sed a word like some people when they see a girl with a hijab on they think that their all soft and wont say anything but they dont know so its all wierd.
i love my hijab so much

same ere!! lol

 

[welcome_islam]

Re: things wrong in islam

who want me to close this tread ? if people want me to i can

 

[welcome_islam]

Re: things wrong in islam

yeh same here thats exactly what i got told when i asked a girl why doesnt she wear the hijab after all u r a muslim
but i guess that many girls dont wear the hijab cuz they dont like to show that they r muslim

yh maybe, then how cum they fast, read quran and do other things, if they dont want to show that they r muslims then don't be one, its simple as that

 

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Re: things wrong in islam

^yeh true

looks like the title has changed back again due to the forum breakdown :blind:

 

[Humairah]

Re: things wrong in islam

if you see muslims doing wrong, we should speak out and advise them or keep shut and pray for them. i don't really see what good is going to come out of hating about them on here.

no one's perfect. we all have our flaws to overcome.

 

[barney]

Re: things wrong in islam

I think we are talking about muslims who live in the west here. a Middle eastern muslim would be much less inclined to eshrew aspects of islam like the hijab.

It's Western freedom of the individual that "tempts" a lot of the ummah there in unislamic behaviour.

 

[Ourra-Tul-'Ain]

Re: things wrong in islam

I think we are talking about muslims who live in the west here. a Middle eastern muslim would be much less inclined to eshrew aspects of islam like the hijab.

It's Western freedom of the individual that "tempts" a lot of the ummah there in unislamic behaviour.

true true

but even if they are in the middle east only Allah knows whats in their hearts,

 

[Neelam92]

Re: things wrong in islam

sallam sister's

trust me, saying to another sister that does not where the hijab "y don’t u where the hijab" is like soo the wrong way to go about it.

inshallah firstly discuss our lovely deen in general, the hijab subject should not be the first thing that comes out your mouth. the sister will only feel like your being patronising or something along those lines.

then maybe when you have made her feel the awe of Islam, u should mention how u maybe started praying, so it only made sense that you wear the hijab instead of taking it in a bag and wiping it out during prayer times....(well what ever your story is lol:giggling: .) hope u get my drift

sallam


lol, let me just add one more thing. What if the sister does not even pray. See u just never know, that’s why you should discuss the deen in general first, see what her reasons are and to kind of examine her understanding of the deen, so inshallah you will be able to understand her better (with out judgment, this sister could be better than you and me tomorrow. Only Allah knows)

ok yeh i understand what u mean ... yeh she is acually my friend who i sed it too and it wasnt a big problem i mean i just sed how cum u dont wear the hijab thats it and she didnt reply so i left it there...she does pray but doesnt seem to like wearing the hijab to school. thats all :?

 

[welcome_islam]

parents should read namaz and teach their children, but there is a family i no that don't read namaz or read quran. they do some of the things like read quran but what example are they showing thier children

 

[Intisar]

Re: things wrong in islam

sallam sister's

trust me, saying to another sister that does not where the hijab "y don’t u where the hijab" is like soo the wrong way to go about it.

inshallah firstly discuss our lovely deen in general, the hijab subject should not be the first thing that comes out your mouth. the sister will only feel like your being patronising or something along those lines.

then maybe when you have made her feel the awe of Islam, u should mention how u maybe started praying, so it only made sense that you wear the hijab instead of taking it in a bag and wiping it out during prayer times....(well what ever your story is lol:giggling: .) hope u get my drift

sallam


lol, let me just add one more thing. What if the sister does not even pray. See u just never know, that’s why you should discuss the deen in general first, see what her reasons are and to kind of examine her understanding of the deen, so inshallah you will be able to understand her better (with out judgment, this sister could be better than you and me tomorrow. Only Allah knows)

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I agree sis, I'm not sure if sister Neelam was trying to partronise her methinks she was just going the wrong way about it. If you teach people why, then they'll gain an understanding and they will most likely oblige.

Not wearing the hijab may also have to do with the fact that post-911 Islamaphobia became more present. People are just scared of what might happen to them if they wear it - you know terrorism and the whole shebang.

Allah A'lam though!

 

[welcome_islam]

Re: things wrong in islam

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I agree sis, I'm not sure if sister Neelam was trying to partronise her methinks she was just going the wrong way about it. If you teach people why, then they'll gain an understanding and they will most likely oblige.

Not wearing the hijab may also have to do with the fact that post-911 Islamaphobia became more present. People are just scared of what might happen to them if they wear it - you know terrorism and the whole shebang.

Allah A'lam though!

thats true, i have not thought of that.

 

[Neelam92]

Re: things wrong in islam

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I agree sis, I'm not sure if sister Neelam was trying to partronise her methinks she was just going the wrong way about it. If you teach people why, then they'll gain an understanding and they will most likely oblige.

Not wearing the hijab may also have to do with the fact that post-911 Islamaphobia became more present. People are just scared of what might happen to them if they wear it - you know terrorism and the whole shebang.

Allah A'lam though!

ok sis i understand what ur saying yeh and inshAllah i will try to explain more to my friend about the deen. inshAllah

 

[Neelam92]

Re: things wrong in islam

yh maybe, then how cum they fast, read quran and do other things, if they dont want to show that they r muslims then don't be one, its simple as that

ok yu have a true point...
i dunno why

 

[AhlaamBella]

The Muslim youth need to be EDUCATED. youth circles etc should be available in every community. If young Muslims can spend time with other muslims they wouldn't feel so distant from their religion. Lets face it, School (maybe mixed/state), homework, non-muslim friends and influences...the list is endless. Where does an islamic environment come in??

 

[Neelam92]

The Muslim youth need to be EDUCATED. youth circles etc should be available in every community. If young Muslims can spend time with other muslims they wouldn't feel so distant from their religion. Lets face it, School (maybe mixed/state), homework, non-muslim friends and influences...the list is endless. Where does an islamic environment come in??

yeh trit does need to be educated.

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

The Muslim youth need to be EDUCATED. youth circles etc should be available in every community. If young Muslims can spend time with other muslims they wouldn't feel so distant from their religion. Lets face it, School (maybe mixed/state), homework, non-muslim friends and influences...the list is endless. Where does an islamic environment come in??

Given that Islam incorporates every aspect of a believer's life, isn't it natural that Muslims will feel distant from their religion in anything other than a completely Islamic state?

Peace

 

[Intisar]

Greetings,


Given that Islam incorporates every aspect of a believer's life, isn't it natural that Muslims will feel distant from their religion in anything other than a completely Islamic state?

Peace

No, it's the environment you're surrounded by. I'm not even close to being distant from Islam because my school is 70% Muslim, I have many mosques surrounding my community, my neighbourhood's Muslim population is around the same percentile as my school. I actually feel more closer to my religion. Seeing the Ummah practice and at peace makes you feel more proud of your religion and makes you a better Muslim. You don't have to necessarily live in Da'rul Islam ( a Muslim country) to feel that way.

eace:

 

[Neelam92]

No, it's the environment you're surrounded by. I'm not even close to being distant from Islam because my school is 70% Muslim, I have many mosques surrounding my community, my neighbourhood's Muslim population is around the same percentile as my school. I actually feel more closer to my religion. Seeing the Ummah practice and at peace makes you feel more proud of your religion and makes you a better Muslim. You don't have to necessarily live in Da'rul Islam ( a Muslim country) to feel that way.

eace:

ohhhh sis thats good, u know it is nice to be around Islam
my school is probably about 45% muslim

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

No, it's the environment you're surrounded by. I'm not even close to being distant from Islam because my school is 70% Muslim, I have many mosques surrounding my community, my neighbourhood's Muslim population is around the same percentile as my school. I actually feel more closer to my religion. Seeing the Ummah practice and at peace makes you feel more proud of your religion and makes you a better Muslim. You don't have to necessarily live in Da'rul Islam ( a Muslim country) to feel that way.

eace:

I suppose I worded my question too strongly. What I meant was 'distant to a certain extent', but from what you say in your post the answer seems to be no.

I'm glad you're happy with the place you're living - that really is good to hear. Canada is often regarded as a tolerant country. I'd love to go there one day.

Peace