Truth about the Taliban

[Woodrow]

^yep but their guns are mostly russian or replicas, they very rarely manage to seize american guns

I have not seen any evidence of replica guns. But even if such exist, they would still require ammunition. I will admit the Taliban has become very proficient at making IEDs and those seem to be the most used weapon by them.

 

[Woodrow]

What seems to be a major source of Taliban weapons:

KABUL — Insurgents in Afghanistan, fighting from some of the poorest and most remote regions on earth, have managed for years to maintain an intensive guerrilla war against materially superior American and Afghan forces.


Weapons from a police post linked to an attack on Americans. Most rifles were the kind issued by the United States.


Arms and ordnance collected from dead insurgents hint at one possible reason: Of 30 rifle magazines recently taken from insurgents’ corpses, at least 17 contained cartridges, or rounds, identical to ammunition the United States had provided to Afghan government forces, according to an examination of ammunition markings by The New York Times and interviews with American officers and arms dealers.

SOURCE

But I do agree all foreign forces NATO and Taliban need to get out of Afghanistan and let the people live with their own choices

 

[aadil77]

I have not seen any evidence of replica guns. But even if such exist, they would still require ammunition. I will admit the Taliban has become very proficient at making IEDs and those seem to be the most used weapon by them.

Theunjustmedia: Where are you getting your weapons’, we keep hearing that Iran and China are providing you weapons.

Commander Tahir Afghan: Lets go back in history when the USSR invaded Afghanistan, at that time USSR brought so much weapons into Afghanistan, during that time the Mujahideen during fighting booty large stocks of weapons, plus when the USSR where kick out of Afghanistan by the Mujahideen they left behind very large stocks of their weapons, which included rockets, rocket-launchers, Kalashnikovs, Sakeel guns, anti-air craft guns, bullets, landmines and tanks, also in the last nine years of the current invasion, the Mujahideen have booty many invaders and their puppets weapons, like tanks, rockets, military vehicles, small and large guns.

In today’s fighting in Afghanistan, the main weapon of the Mujahideen is the Improvise explosive device (IED), which has inflicting the most losses to the ranks of the invaders, and these IED's are being manufactured in Afghanistan by the Mujahideen themselves.

Recently, the Mujahideen have made a new IED called Omar which is remotely detonated, this IED has few specialties, on one hand its manufacturing cost is very minimal, while on the other hand it is very destructive, the manufacturing cost of this landmine is only US $100, but it can destroy the invaders million dollar worth military vehicle and one more specialty of this IED is that, the invaders IED detecting vehicles and equipment can not detect this IED, so the allegation against the Mujahideen that they are getting help from Iran or China is a mere propaganda, with a hidden agenda.

The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan invites journalists to come and see for themselves the weapons which the Emirate Mujahideen are using to fight the invaders and their puppets, this way the fraud of the fraudster can be exposed and the truth can manifest it self.

 

[Woodrow]

I agree the IEDs are home made by the Taliban themselves and I also agree they are the most effective weapon used by the Taliban. but, they are very low cost and do not require the Millions of dollars the Saudi Businessmen seem to be providing the Taliban with. so the question still remains, what is happening to the surplus money?

 

[aadil77]

I agree the IEDs are home made by the Taliban themselves and I also agree they are the most effective weapon used by the Taliban. but, they are very low cost and do not require the Millions of dollars the Saudi Businessmen seem to be providing the Taliban with. so the question still remains, what is happening to the surplus money?

I don't know, they must be helping fellow afghans too. We can't say they're not in need of money

But heres proof that arabs are funding them, its a pity all arab govt are puppets states, we cannot even support the jihad of our brothers without being arrested by muslims, the whole muslim world is a sellout and kaffir bootlickers. How were they funding terrorism? May Allah deal justly with the traitors of the ummah

DUBAI: Five Emiratis and an Afghan national have received jail terms in the United Arab Emirates for funding the Taliban, local newspapers reported on Wednesday.


The six men “were sentenced to three years in jail for funding the Taliban,” Gulf News reported. Two men were acquitted of similar charges.


The Afghan was given money by the other five “to channel it to Afghanistan,” the daily said.


The Taliban, which was forced from power in 2001, is engaged in an insurgency against Afghanistan’s Western-backed government and international military forces there. The group also operates in Pakistan.


Two Emiratis, Rashid Dawood and Abdullah Hassan, were given an additional year for “attempting to set up an organization to enforce a strict code of Islam” which “the court said attacked civil liberties,” Gulf News said.


Khaleej Times said two Emiratis, whom it did not identify, assaulted “three Emiratis and a Bangladeshi, leaving them disabled for about 20 days,” in connection with punishing “people for what they claimed were offenses.”



Al-Ittihad newspaper said the trial before the Supreme Court began in early September.


The newspaper said at the time the prosecution accused two defendants of financing terror and six others of promoting and supporting terrorism.


The prosecution submitted evidence from computers and documents seized when the defendants were arrested in October 2008, among a group of 21 people, the newspaper said.


Charges against 13 people, including 12 Emiratis and an Egyptian, who was deported, were dropped, it said.


Such trials are rare in the relatively stable UAE, a federation of seven emirates where foreigners make up more than 80 percent of the population. – AFP



Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=114326#ixzz0qvseYZx0
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[Woodrow]

I suspect somebody in Afghanistan is getting quite rich off of money people think they are giving to help the Taliban fight NATO forces.

An interesting read here:

One issue under review by the ministry’s Foreign Defense Assistance and Export Organization, known by its Hebrew acronym, SIBAT, is a Turkish request for Israeli electronic warfare systems, the London magazine reported.

Turkey’s military has also shown interest in the Spike anti-tank missile manufactured by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and the Barak-8 naval air-defense missile produced by state-run Israel Aerospace Industry.

Relations between Israel and Turkey have been steadily deteriorating since the Israeli militaryinvaded the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip on Dec. 27, 2008, ostensibly to stifle rocket attacks, and fought a 22-day war before withdrawing Jan. 18, 2009, in the face of international condemnation.

Some 1,300 Palestinians, mostly civilians, were killed in the all-arms onslaught. Israeli casualties were 13 killed, nine of them soldiers.

That effectively ended a landmark 1996 military cooperation agreement, which covered a wide range of intelligence-sharing, between Israel and Turkey, an overwhelmingly Muslim nation and NATO’s only Muslim member.

Israel’s defense industry benefited from big-ticket sales to Turkey over the years.

SOURCE


Over the years I have seen that historically anytime weapons of war are sold, openly, privately, legally or illegally--- a Jewish business will profit. Do not be surprised if it turns out those Arab businessmen are unknowingly helping Israel kill Palestinians

 

[LauraS]

From the autobiography of an Afghan woman I'm reading here are some other things that may interest you:

Hindu women were made to wear yellow burqas a colour that is associated in Afghanistan with hatred.

Women were not even allowed to show so much as their hands.

During Ramadan women were not even allowed to leave their houses.

The taliban used to take young women forceably from their homes to marry their soldiers, they would rape women.

Kite flying, very popular in Afghanistan at one point I understand was banned, along with television and music that wasn't relreligious. Women were not allowed on radio.

Women were beaten for laughing to loudly, it was thought of as being provocative.

Yes education was banned for women, but not the protect them, they thought it was the gateway to hell for women.

Women were not to be seen by male doctors, yet banning education meant women could not study to become doctors. The taliban would beat patients in hospitals for transgressing any laws. Here is a passage from the book with the writer saw someone who had tried to kill herself:

"she told me that her mother suffered from asthma and had gone to hospital for treatment. Soon after reaching the hospital, she had suffered an asthma attack and had taken off her burqa as she fought for breath inthe ward. A Taliban had burst into the ward and given her mother forty lashes while the daughter watched, helpless to intervene. The nurses had done nothing to stop the beating. The daughter, who was twenty years old, explained why she had wanted to commit suicide: 'If I can't even help my mother when she is sick, then what is the good of living?' "

Don't just say she is a feminist or whatever, there is photographic evidence out there of things described in her book and RAWA are helped by men. You can't say laws didn't really exist and were being made up to make the Taliban look bad. Remember what was said by the poster further down with family from Afghanistan.

 

[Tyrion]

Adding on to the above post, I just wanted to say that I don't understand how someone can so enthusiastically promote the Taliban when you have Afghans who have actually lived under their rule telling you how evil they were. My own family left Afghanistan partly because of the Taliban, and some of the stories I've heard are just disgusting.

 

[aadil77]

Thanks for that whole load of crap, now go listen to what the taliban actually said about this propaganda - http://www.islamicboard.com/general...-show-interview-taliban-envoy-pre-9-11-a.html

Kite flying was banned cause kids slicing their hands open due to the sharp metal wire they would use, they would also get stuck on pylons

She claims education was banned so clearly she's lying

 

[LauraS]

There was a lot more said than just the banning of kite flying. Banning of education for girls is a fact. The Tabliban speaking out for themselves? Of course, that isn't propoganda at all.

 

[aadil77]

There was a lot more said than just the banning of kite flying. Banning of education for girls is a fact. The Tabliban speaking out for themselves? Of course, that isn't propoganda at all.

not if its supported by facts and evidence, they did not ban the education of women nor the right for women to work, why don't you go ask the women who studied at womens institutes made by UN or the women who would women in the taliba govt; ministry of education etc?

the issue was segregation, they wanted the same segregation system like in saudi, but they did not have enough money and resources to build seperates schools, they actually called on western nations for help in such matters

 

[Asiyah3]

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[Trumble]

Thanks for that whole load of crap,

Are you ever going to shut up with YOUR crap? Your mindless and puerile insulting of those who don't share your level of gullibility is becoming tedious. Why not OPEN YOUR EYES and try listening to someone OTHER than Taliban propagandists?

 

[Tyrion]

Brother aadil, I've noticed that you seem to be ignoring what the people who have actually dealt with the Taliban have to say on the matter. The vast majority of Afghans I've encountered are against the Taliban, and have seen some pretty atrocious things done by them in the name of Islam. I wonder why you continue to deny the opinion of those who have actually seen these people in action, and why you defend a group who you seem to know little or nothing about...

 

[Masuma]

Are you ever going to shut up with YOUR crap? Your mindless and puerile insulting of those who don't share your level of gullibility is becoming tedious. Why not OPEN YOUR EYES and try listening to someone OTHER than Taliban propagandists?

Look, brother Trumble, your insulting too. If you would call someone having a "crap", believe me, you'll receive the same the same sort of compliment back. So why not just remain friendly and try to get our point across nicely? I see no harm in it.

 

[Masuma]

Brother aadil, I've noticed that you seem to be ignoring what the people who have actually dealt with the Taliban have to say on the matter. The vast majority of Afghans I've encountered are against the Taliban, and have seen some pretty atrocious things done by them in the name of Islam. I wonder why you continue to deny the opinion of those who have actually seen these people in action, and why you defend a group who you seem to know little or nothing about...

Brother aadill77:

Brother Tyrion does have a point. And I know that there are good and bad people on both sides but why to support Taliban so much and not agreeing to the sources which portray their evil side?

Don't you think brother Tyrion, because he has lived there under their control, would know better than us?

 

[CosmicPathos]

There was a lot more said than just the banning of kite flying. Banning of education for girls is a fact. The Tabliban speaking out for themselves? Of course, that isn't propoganda at all.

lol. ban those **** kites. Kiteflying, basant, the useless hobby due to which hundreds of kids die in Pakistan. Eliminate this festival of basant from Muslim lands. Send its followers into oblivion.

 

[CosmicPathos]

For God's sake! Did I ever mention that I am only against Pakistani Talibans and not black water etc?! What's wrong with you people? :exhausted I hate both Pakistani Talibans as well as black water etc. Right now in this thread I'm only giving my reasons to hate Pakistani Talibans because here you people seem to be supporting Pakistani Talibans! In another thread where you may talk about black water, there I'll give my reasons to hate it too! As simple as that!
I don't deny that "black water's contribution to Pakistanis' slaughter but I also don't deny at all Pakistani Talibans killing us! But some of you here are supporting Pakistani Talibans and that is just so shocking!



Good! Because Pakistani Talibans know nothing of Islam!

I am happy to be "mad scientist."

You said that Pakistani talibans know nothing of Islam. OOH Okay. So YOU know about Islam? Or your Pakistani fellow countrymen know about Islam? When a soldier is killed (they call them shaheed in Pakistan), you know how they are burried? With Band Baja and salami of guns ... thats Islam eh.

Have you ever seen teh wedding festivals fo your country men? My friend is depressed because he cannot get married. Why cant he? because he doesnt have $50,000 to go to Pakistan to spend on his wedding for maintaining his izzat in front of his munafiq elite extended family. His dad wants him to get married to someone "with "good" family." Good family means rich people with ruling history for generations in the past. Jageerdari. Syeds. Property worth crores of rupees. All that crap. That Islam eh!

Dont get me started on what you guys actually do on wedding events starting from mehndi to rukhsati.

 

[aadil77]

Don't you think brother Tyrion, because he has lived there under their control, would know better than us?

He said his parents lived their and they left afghanistan 'partly' because of the taliban - I'd like to hear why they 'partly' left because of the taliban

I know people who have met the taliban cause their grandparents live there, I'll ask them to post here

 

[Masuma]

He said his parents lived their and they left afghanistan 'partly' because of the taliban - I'd like to hear why they 'partly' left because of the taliban

I know people who have met the taliban cause their grandparents live there, I'll ask them to post here

Seriously, I don't know brother. but it is so wrong to believe that Afghani Talibans are saints. They live in a country where the social life is at its ruins! No proper education or anything. So in this case, it won't be ill-logical to accept that there are some black sheep among Afghani Talibans. Mainly due to illiteracy and other problems.

But Allah knows best.