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Westboro Baptist Church what is your view of this True Christian Church ?

I know that I am not a Christian anymore but the Westboro Baptist Church seem to be good Christians in my view. The Westboro Baptist Church was founded in 1955 at a time in America when Homosexuality was not accepted. The Westboro Baptist Church believes in the Old Testament Law.



Westboro Baptist Church
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The Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is an Independent Baptist church known for its extreme stance against homosexuality[SUP][2]

Funeral pickets

The group came into the national spotlight in 1998, when it was featured on CNN for picketing the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a young man from Wyoming who was beaten to death by two men because of his homosexuality.[SUP][28][/SUP] Since then, the church has attracted attention for many more actual and planned funeral pickets.[SUP][29][/SUP][SUP][30][/SUP][SUP][31][/SUP][SUP][32][/SUP][SUP][33][/SUP][SUP][34][/SUP]

Church views

Views on homosexuality

The church runs numerous Web sites such as GodHatesFags.com, GodHatesAmerica.com and others expressing condemnation of homosexuality.
The group bases its work around the belief expressed by its best known slogan and the address of its primary Web site, God Hates Fags, asserting that every tragedy in the world is linked to homosexuality—specifically society's increasing tolerance and acceptance of the so-called homosexual agenda. The group maintains that God hates gays above all other kinds of "sinners"[SUP][63][/SUP] and that homosexuality should be a capital crime.[SUP][64][/SUP]
Their views on homosexuality are partially based on teachings found in the Old Testament, specifically Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, which they interpret to mean that homosexual behavior is detestable, and that homosexuals should be put to death, respectively.[SUP][63][/SUP]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
Fred Phelps
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Fred Waldron Phelps, Sr. (born November 13, 1929) is an American pastor heading the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), an independent Baptist church based in Topeka, Kansas. Phelps is a disbarred lawyer, founder of the Phelps Chartered law firm, and a former civil rights activist.
Phelps's followers frequently picket various events, such as military funerals, gay pride gatherings, high-profile political gatherings, university commencement ceremonies, performances of The Laramie Project, mainstream Christian gatherings and concerts with which he had no affiliation, arguing it is their sacred duty to warn others of God's anger.
In response to Phelps' protests at military funerals, President George W. Bush signed the Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act into law in May 2006,[SUP][1][/SUP] and, in April 2007, Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius signed into law a bill establishing a 150-foot no-picketing buffer zone around funerals.[SUP][2][/SUP]
He is known for the slogans that he and his ministry use against people he deems sinful; his church is built around a core of anti-homosexual theology, with many of their activities stemming from the slogan "God hates fags", which is also the name of the group's main website.[SUP][3][/SUP] Gay rights supporters have denounced him as a producer of anti-gay propaganda and violence-inspiring hate speech.[SUP][4][/SUP] The church is considered a hate group and monitored by the Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Center.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps
Westboro Baptist ChurIn Their Own Words: On America
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“Mongrel Bush and his Battle of New Orleans…The Sovereign Horseman rides in New Orleans….Get Right with God! You are pouring gasoline on the raging infernos of God's wrath in Iraq and New Orleans…The only fruits meet for repentance in today’s circumstances are these: Completely rid your administration of fags and dykes; and, recriminalize sodomy and abortion, and impose the death penalty for these crimes. Nothing less will do. Otherwise, we warn you again: Expect worse and more of it from that Outraged God your sins have mightily offended.”

WE BELIEVE men and women should conduct themselves according to the role of their gender in the traditional Christian sense that God intended. Homosexuality is an abomination before God and should be punished by death (Lev. 18:22, 20:13; Rom. 1:24-28, 32; I Cor. 6:9).

[SUP]http://www.kingidentity.com/doctrine.htm[/SUP]

Muslims and Christians Unite Against Gays
[SUP]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM2aJz0fd3k[/SUP]
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Re: Islamic Demonstration Against NYC Gay Parade

The Westboro Baptist Church should have supported and joined in these protests.
 
Re: Since Homosexuality is evil since Homosexuals can't procreate and the Human Race

Since Homosexuality is evil since Homosexuals can't procreate and the Human Race would go extinct if everyone was Homosexual does this mean that Hetrosexuals who use birth control or for health reasons they can't have Children or for Age reasons they are too old to have Children is this on the same level as Homosexuality ? In my view or opinion the answer is no because Hetrosexuals still have Hetrosexual Sex therefor they still do the Act that procreates Children. Homosexuals are evil to compare theor love and sexuality to that of Hetrosexuals does anyone agree ?
 
Re: Since Homosexuality is evil since Homosexuals can't procreate and the Human Race

Not being able to procreate or not being willing to do so is not on the same level as homosexuality. Being on the level of homosexuality would imply being a sin and not having kids (whilst not something that is encouraged) is not a sin.
 
Re: Westboro Baptist Church what is your view of this True Christian Church ?

They believe that EVERY tragedy that occurs is due to America's general apathy in repressing homosexuality. When there is a flood, they march. When there is an earthquake, they march. When there is a tornado, they march.

The worst part is that they crash the funerals of the deceased, protesting and holding signs stating that the dead are in hell and "Thank God for AIDS", "Thank God for Tsunamis"...things of that nature.

It is my belief that their methods are cruel and not of God.
 
Re: Islamic Demonstration Against NYC Gay Parade

YusufNoor said:
i think protesting the parade is idiotic, as idiotic as when the Bible thumpin' Christians do it. i, for 1, DO feel sorry for them. mostly because as messengers of THE Messenger, we suck. most people in the west look at Muslims and see a bunch of fools who abuse or kill women or treat them like 2nd class citizens, who run around telling everyone else that they are going to hell, who allow their rulers to commit the same atrocities that we spew venom at the kuffars for, etc...


I would like to telll Homosexuals to repent before it is too late.
people don't just reject the Message, they can be rejecting the one who told them or the way that they are told as well [or instead of].

why not tell gay folks that you love them? why not tell them that you would love to see them in Jannah? why not tell them that you hope that maybe they've done some good deed in the eyes of Allah that you hope that they get to heaven before you do?! why not tell them that you are at their service and that if they need help in any way that you will gladly provide it?

i've lived in the Seattle area for quite some time now and there is a huge gay population. i know many waiters that i worked with who died of aids. yet i've also seen many selfless acts of loving kindness from them too. i see many in the Muslim community that don't give a crap about anyone else [of course i know some AWESOME ones too]. i know non-believers who spent a lot time comforting the dying and caring for the sick.

i think the worst thing that someone can do is to reject Allah, but next to that is behaving in a manner that causes others to reject Him as well. many Muslims claim that they don't "make dawah", but they behave rudely to others, which IS dawah; but it is dawah that is calling to the hellfire and NOT to Allah. MAYBE we are the reason that people reject Islam. MAYBE the gay and non-believers have an excuse, BUT we don't.

in the early days, many people found Islam because they admired the Muslims so much that they wanted to be like them!

we are not oft admired, are we?

why is that?

who will we blame on Judgment Day?

who?
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Thank you.
Messages such as these lighten my heart.
 
Re: Westboro Baptist Church what is your view of this True Christian Church ?

GodIsAll, I have to agree with you 100%. I can not ever believe that what they do is from God. Sunnie Ameena
 
Re: Westboro Baptist Church what is your view of this True Christian Church ?

GodIsAll, I had seen videos of these people and I don't have words to describe how it makes me feel. And they say they are doing what they do in God's name, nope that is not God's hands that is doing that. I believe it is the works of satan. It actually turns my stomach just to hear their name, because I know what they do. And I do agree, no one should endorse him or any of his followers. Thank you for starting this thread. May Allah put his hands on them and show them the right path. Sunnie Ameena
 
Re: Westboro Baptist Church what is your view of this True Christian Church ?

I wanted truthseeker to be aware of their position regarding Islam. I had never seen them protest against Islam in the past, but I figured if I googled it, there would be plenty of information regarding their view on Muslims...these people hate EVERYBODY.

Love to all!
 
Re: Westboro Baptist Church what is your view of this True Christian Church ?

:sl:

I think it is people like this who give decent Christians a bad reputation, just like certain types of Muslims give decent Muslims a bad reputation.
 
Re: Islamic Demonstration Against NYC Gay Parade

aadil77 said:
Doesn't matter, if the whole of the US's morals have deteriorated doesn't mean muslims should stand by whilst gays parade around naked in the streets

We have to set an example, I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of conservative christians decided to join in the protests
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Salaam,

Again, what's the point? Nothing changed. It is a waste of time. There are other ways to convince people that homosexuality is sinful. Actually, what was the purpose of this protest? If it were to show that they didn't like the parade, then fair enough, it wasn't a waste of time.
 
Re: Islamic Demonstration Against NYC Gay Parade

GodIsAll said:
They hate nigh everything.
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Some people just know not Islam but the misdeeds of some Muslims and the lies of those who have known the truth but still fighting against it...alas!

May Allah The Exalted; guide us, them and the whole world too before standing in His court Ameen laa ilaha illa Allah.
 
Salam my question is is it haram or wrong or bad to judge a person based on how they

Salam my question is is it haram or wrong or bad to judge a person based on how they look as far as physical beauty ? I mean people can not help what their physical beauty is because they were born with looks and the Creator gives you you're good looks also I believe people should be judged by their actions not their physical beauty anyone agree ? Is superiority based on physical beauty or piety and good action ?

[h=2][SIZE=+2]Prophet Muhammad's Last Sermon
[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Date delivered[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]: 632 A.C., 9th day of Dhul al Hijjah, 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat.[/SIZE][/h]
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab
has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an
Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any
superiority over white except by piety and good action.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_lastsermon.htm
 
Re: Salam my question is is it haram or wrong or bad to judge a person based on how t

Piety is the gold standard with Allah swt..
but is that the case for people? I am not sure.. people often are either superficial or want the entire package while themselves contributing nothing.. At any rate I think true ugliness comes from bad actions, and it mirrors on the outside.. now a days everyone can get cosmetic surgery to look like barbie clones of each other so people can very much help how they look from the outside which is still an empty shell for what lies beneath..

:w:
 

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