Wanting to convert to Christianity (URGENT!)
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Bro, the test of what religion you choose shouldn't be based on emotions but on which one is the Truth that your heart affirms.
Also, if you're considering Christianity, having studied Christianity, I think you should know that not all Christians believe the same about being saved and forgiven, as for example, the Catholic Church to this day teaches accountability and there is no guarantee of knowing whether one is going to Hell or Paradise. Only the Protestant denomination, of which there are many sects, believe about not needing accountability, and I could go into detail but this should suffice In-sha-Allah as explanation.
That said, I'll In-sha-Allah send you some resources that will increase your knowledge and lead you to understand the basic question you seem to be asking which is "why Islam."
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Bro, the test of what religion you choose shouldn't be based on emotions but on which one is the Truth that your heart affirms.
Also, if you're considering Christianity, having studied Christianity, I think you should know that not all Christians believe the same about being saved and forgiven, as for example, the Catholic Church to this day teaches accountability and there is no guarantee of knowing whether one is going to Hell or Paradise. Only the Protestant denomination, of which there are many sects, believe about not needing accountability, and I could go into detail but this should suffice In-sha-Allah as explanation.
That said, I'll In-sha-Allah send you some resources that will increase your knowledge and lead you to understand the basic question you seem to be asking which is "why Islam."
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I understand, bro. I understand your reasons too. I just don't want you to take a hasty decision which you'll regret both in this life and the hereafter.
Make sense?
Btw, bro, just so you know, if we didn't care, we wouldn't counsel you. Care we do, bro, about you, and that's why we want to make sure you make the best decision for yourself.
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I understand, bro. I understand your reasons too. I just don't want you to take a hasty decision which you'll regret both in this life and the hereafter.
Make sense?
Btw, bro, just so you know, if we didn't care, we wouldn't counsel you. Care we do, bro, about you, and that's why we want to make sure you make the best decision for yourself.
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Sent you some awesome resources, bro!
In-sha-Allah, the resources should clarify for you whether Islam is the divine truth and give you proofs of "why Islam."
Honestly, just keep us updated, cause we care, and yes, we do!
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Sent you some awesome resources, bro!
In-sha-Allah, the resources should clarify for you whether Islam is the divine truth and give you proofs of "why Islam."
Honestly, just keep us updated, cause we care, and yes, we do!
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So........you're going from worshiping the creator to worshiping something that's created?
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I think that from every religions we can find groups of people whose make us feel safe and comfortable but as well groups whose make us feel insecure and anxiety.
I live in Finland too. And its a majorly Lutheran country. I havent looked much into sects and might buy a Bible
But I am not considering Lutheran a single bit
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And what did you think about how I explained that there is not forgiveness in Christianity, as there is in Islam? There is no free ticket to paradise where somebody carries your sins. That is ascribing injustice to God. And Jesus (peace be on him) certainly doesn't know anything about it. And that nobody can say they are saved. That info, is here:
Salvation, sin and forgiveness
If you could please explain which parts of what I said don't sit right with you or you don't understand, then we can address those rather than repeating everything already stated again.
Also, may I ask if the feeling emotionless is more of a general problem not necessarily to do with your faith, and was mentioned here?:
http://www.islamicboard.com/advice-and-support/134325126-neeh-help-feel-am-becoming-bad.html
Thank you.
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I think I understand your feelings there, sis. We here try to advice and save this little br from this horrible destination as leaving Islam and become a Christian... it might feels quite awkward to read.
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Anyways, I am happy you joined to here. Reading each others posts and thoughts we can increase mutual understandings.
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Anyways, I am happy you joined to here. Reading each others posts and thoughts we can increase mutual understandings.
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Question..
Other than prayer, what are you doing Islamically? ie. what are you doing to increase your iman?
Your issue seems to be laziness. I mean if you don't have connection with God in a religion where you are obligated to pray to Him 5 times a day, what makes you think that you will when you leave Islam? You will just stop praying and then what? What are your core beliefs?
Other than prayer, what are you doing Islamically? ie. what are you doing to increase your iman?
Your issue seems to be laziness. I mean if you don't have connection with God in a religion where you are obligated to pray to Him 5 times a day, what makes you think that you will when you leave Islam? You will just stop praying and then what? What are your core beliefs?
I used to spend most of time reading hadiths and watching lectures. Not anymore tho
brother just do this : say allahumma ihdini lima ikhtoulifa fihi mina lhakki bi idnik wa ida aradta fitnata kawmin fa kbidni ilayka ghayra maftun
i used to think like this but when i use those things i feel like all that things was a whisper from satan try to remember a deed that you did it just for allah without associating anyone else and say : o allah if you know that just for you and to win your satisfying please relieve me from what i have
you know ? when i was read a bible and research about the original version in aramaic
i choked because it was a lot of different mistakes in the translation and the christian themselves admit that
so if you want to pray to allah you should read his book in arabic // even you aren't arabian
so you read it in the first language
make doaa
take the quran with your hands
ask allah to guide you
and read any surah
and listen to your lord when he advice you in this pages
you still love him
and this topic is the best proof of that
just open the quran and listen to your god's advice
islam has come to complete christianity and the others
you believe in Jesus, Moses, Isaac, and Jacob,and all the other prophets peace be upon them
you believe in one god
so you are right
don't let the whisper destroying you
may allah guide you i understand you it's the hardest moments in my life when i was think like this
may allah be with you
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so , those are my three things that i did them to feel better
1: say allahumma ihdini lima ikhtoulifa fihi mina lhakki bi idnik wa ida aradta fitnata kawmin fa kbidni ilayka ghayra maftun
and : allah , allahu rabb la ooshrikoo bihi shayaan
and (( houwa l'awwalo wa l'akhirou wa ddahirou wa lbatinou wa huwwa bi koulli shay'en alim ))
2: ask allah with good deed<<remember a deed that you did it just for allah without associating anyone with him and say allahumma you are know that one day i did .... ( say and remember the deed )) and say : o allah if you know that just for you and to win your satisfying please relieve me from what i have
3 : make doaa
take the quran with your hands
ask allah to guide you
and read any surah
and listen to your lord when he advice you in this pages
i used to think like this but when i use those things i feel like all that things was a whisper from satan try to remember a deed that you did it just for allah without associating anyone else and say : o allah if you know that just for you and to win your satisfying please relieve me from what i have
you know ? when i was read a bible and research about the original version in aramaic
i choked because it was a lot of different mistakes in the translation and the christian themselves admit that
so if you want to pray to allah you should read his book in arabic // even you aren't arabian
so you read it in the first language
make doaa
take the quran with your hands
ask allah to guide you
and read any surah
and listen to your lord when he advice you in this pages
you still love him
and this topic is the best proof of that
just open the quran and listen to your god's advice
islam has come to complete christianity and the others
you believe in Jesus, Moses, Isaac, and Jacob,and all the other prophets peace be upon them
you believe in one god
so you are right
don't let the whisper destroying you
may allah guide you i understand you it's the hardest moments in my life when i was think like this
may allah be with you
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so , those are my three things that i did them to feel better
1: say allahumma ihdini lima ikhtoulifa fihi mina lhakki bi idnik wa ida aradta fitnata kawmin fa kbidni ilayka ghayra maftun
and : allah , allahu rabb la ooshrikoo bihi shayaan
and (( houwa l'awwalo wa l'akhirou wa ddahirou wa lbatinou wa huwwa bi koulli shay'en alim ))
2: ask allah with good deed<<remember a deed that you did it just for allah without associating anyone with him and say allahumma you are know that one day i did .... ( say and remember the deed )) and say : o allah if you know that just for you and to win your satisfying please relieve me from what i have
3 : make doaa
take the quran with your hands
ask allah to guide you
and read any surah
and listen to your lord when he advice you in this pages
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Ok but reading ahadith and watching lectures isn't going to make you closer to Allah, just like reading biology books isn't going to make me a Doctor. I may have knowledge, but that's not going to get me anywhere. If you don't recite Quran, make du'a, pray on time, spend in charity...then of course praying is going to seem like a burden cuz your life is good, it's "comfortable" and therefore you haven't found yourself in a desperate situation to call towards Allah to make this connection.
You need to practice more, and if you're hanging around people who are influencing you like that then hang around them less. The main reason I say this is because if you don't know what your core beliefs are, or even your identity, then you will want to believe in what your friends are believing or be "acceptable" to the society you're living in.
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Yes, it's fascintating scifi isn't it?
stay off the drugs.
Scimi
I dont use drugs...
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Bro Striving 
I have spoken with you on skype, and found you to be a young man who has issues he finds no one else shares - it's like you enjoy being the werido or something.
From what I understand, Islam promotes the idea of Ummah - meaning one nation without borders under God.
We have one holy book - the Quran, which has withstood the test of time and is unchanged since it's revelation.
We have the truth of the Prophethood of Muhammad pbuh and the witness statements of his companions (RA) and the stringent sciences of ahadeeth which authenticate them.
Now let's compare it ok "weirdo Mr I want to be different" ?
Number of versions of the bible: http://tyndalearchive.com/scriptures/index.htm (ridiculous)
Number of versions of Quran: ONE
Christianity - Number of Gods: 0.33 / 0.33 / 0.33 -- making 3 mini Gods who join to form one maxi-God who is still 3 miniGods.
Islam - number of God: Laa ilaha ilaAllah - there are no gods worthy of worship except THE GOD (singular)
Christian Concept of salvation: If you don't believe in Jesus as God, you will burn in hell
Muslim concept of salvation: Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabiana - whoever believes in God and the last day, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve 2:62, 5:69
You can clearly see that when it comes to theology of Islam vs Christianity - Islam wins. Authenticity - Islam wins. Equity and Justice - Islam wins.
But you like Christianity because "you don't have to do much" in it.
You are a weak boy.
People like you never become men, enjoy your new found faith, and your new "family"
Scimi
I have spoken with you on skype, and found you to be a young man who has issues he finds no one else shares - it's like you enjoy being the werido or something.
From what I understand, Islam promotes the idea of Ummah - meaning one nation without borders under God.
We have one holy book - the Quran, which has withstood the test of time and is unchanged since it's revelation.
We have the truth of the Prophethood of Muhammad pbuh and the witness statements of his companions (RA) and the stringent sciences of ahadeeth which authenticate them.
Now let's compare it ok "weirdo Mr I want to be different" ?
Number of versions of the bible: http://tyndalearchive.com/scriptures/index.htm (ridiculous)
Number of versions of Quran: ONE
Christianity - Number of Gods: 0.33 / 0.33 / 0.33 -- making 3 mini Gods who join to form one maxi-God who is still 3 miniGods.
Islam - number of God: Laa ilaha ilaAllah - there are no gods worthy of worship except THE GOD (singular)
Christian Concept of salvation: If you don't believe in Jesus as God, you will burn in hell
Muslim concept of salvation: Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabiana - whoever believes in God and the last day, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve 2:62, 5:69
You can clearly see that when it comes to theology of Islam vs Christianity - Islam wins. Authenticity - Islam wins. Equity and Justice - Islam wins.
But you like Christianity because "you don't have to do much" in it.
You are a weak boy.
People like you never become men, enjoy your new found faith, and your new "family"
Scimi
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