what do christians & jews believe in?

Prophet is Abrahamic in origin so I dount Confuscius an asian mystic was a Prophet in the Judeo/Christian/Islamic sense. A wise teacher certainly. A Prophet not likely.
Peace be with you
 
unfortuently i cant seem to find the rules of sabbath...can sum1 post them for me here plz? im so sorry
 
And you know what, way before Moses got the ten commandment, Confucius who wasn't a Jew taught the "Love your neighbor as yourself" rule.


Not true.
Confucius was born a thousand of years after Moses (pbuh). Confucius was born in 551-479 BCE.
 
Well, according to Islam, God did send a messenger to every nation of the world until Muhammad was revealed as a prophet.
 
Well, according to Islam, God did send a messenger to every nation of the world until Muhammad was revealed as a prophet.

True. God (SWT) is Just and He sent messengers to every nation to bring guidance and Muhammad SAW as the final messenger. But, after their deaths, the main message which was always the same: worship One God, was changed and twisted. Only the Qur'an is guarded from change because it is intended for all mankind.
However, in the Qur'an only the names 25 of those prophets were revealed to us, so we can state that so and so was a prophet if they are not named in the Qur'an. All we can do is speculate, and speculation is obviously subject to falsehood.
 
  1. That the new month shall be solemnly proclaimed as holy, and the months and years shall be calculated by the Supreme Court only (Ex. 12:2) (affirmative) (the authority to declare months is inferred from the use of the word "unto you").
  2. Not to travel on Shabbat outside the limits of one's place of residence (Ex. 16:29) (CCN7). See Shabbat.
  3. To sanctify Shabbat (Ex. 20:8) (CCA19). See Shabbat.
  4. Not to do work on Shabbat (Ex. 20:10) (CCN6). See Shabbat.
  5. To rest on Shabbat (Ex. 23:12; 34:21) (CCA20). See Shabbat.
These are mitzvot 107 to 111 (107 has nothing to do with shabbat....see 108 to 111)
 
Rabbi M. Blumenfeilds thoughts on idolatry, submission and service to G-d.........

[SIZE=+1]THE FIRST PRINCIPLE: GOD AS CREATOR[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]HE IS ABSOLUTE[/SIZE]
The first Principle is to be aware and to know that there is a Primal Cause, a Being whose existence is absolute and from whose existence all existence stems. He alone and only He is absolute. He exists because He exists. It is inconceivable that He not be. His existence has no cause. There is nothing that supports Him. There is nothing that maintains Him. There is no agency through which He came into being. In contrast, everything else that exists is dependent and contingent upon His existence. Nothing else exists in and of itself and independent of Him. Everything else exists only because He wills its existence. He gives everything else its existence and He maintains it.
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For man to serve, to submit himself to supplicating God, the Almighty must be essentially different from him. The difference between God and man must be qualitative, not merely quantitative.
[SIZE=+1]IDOLATRY AS BARTER[/SIZE]
If this concept is true, then why do we find so many civilizations serving idols? The idol does not have any absolute existence, it has a contingent one. The idol, like those serving it, has needs and therefore limitations and weaknesses. Human awareness of this dependency invites relating to the idol through barter -- service for a payoff. People will serve a god only as long as it offers some kind of benefit. Throughout history, the gods that were favored were those that were able to deliver the rains and victories that their worshippers desired. This form of worship, tit for tat, is self-serving and not sincere submission. The contingent existence of the idol is its inherent weakness, one that makes real submission to it impossible.
The recognition of the Almighty's absolute existence as the one and only Source of our existence is what binds us to Him. Submission to Him is predicated upon the knowledge that He is the Cause of the entire world and all the experience that one has within it. This knowledge, then, ultimately carries with it the profound realization that one has no absolute existence at all. It is out of this awareness that Moshe Rabbeinu declared: "We, what are we?" (Exodus 15:8; see Chulin 89a). To be aware that one is nothing more than God's creation and to be aware of all the ramifications of this reality is the highest expression of service.
[SIZE=+1]THE ONLY PERMANENT ENTITY[/SIZE]
Another consequence of the fact that God is absolute is the idea that He is unchanging. Contingent beings are affected by a variety of things and are constantly changing. One depends on something, and when that thing is altered, one must also change. God, who is not dependent upon anything and who has neither cause nor source other than His own Being, is unchanging.

.................The first principle mentioned here sounds similar to Tawheed.......clearly, of the 3 Abrahamic religions, Christianity seems to be the "odd man out"........
 
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Zafran:
Yep - Just shows that God's messege has always been universal.

Then why isn't "loving your neighbor as yourself" the number 1 priority of ALL religiously minded people, particularly the Abrahamic religions? It seems to me that if it's so OBVIOUS to be a universal commandment from God, that to fail to do it is simple, direct disobedience.

To fail to love one's neighbor before God is to disobey the commandment...right?
 
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The first Principle is to be aware and to know that there is a Primal Cause, a Being whose existence is absolute and from whose existence all existence stems. He alone and only He is absolute. He exists because He exists. It is inconceivable that He not be. His existence has no cause. There is nothing that supports Him. There is nothing that maintains Him. There is no agency through which He came into being. In contrast, everything else that exists is dependent and contingent upon His existence. Nothing else exists in and of itself and independent of Him. Everything else exists only because He wills its existence. He gives everything else its existence and He maintains it.

Given the guy is a Jewish Rabbi, I'm sure he'd be talking about the One God of the Shema being this "Primal Cause". I'm sure he'd also say that this "Primal Cause" is never without His Word and His Spirit. Ever. Betcha a thousand dollars. :)
 
Yieldedone, yes, though probably with qualifications. Because if you did't know that was a commandment you may not dealt with as harshly as say someone who was aware and chose to ignore it. Or atleast thats the hope.

Peace be with you
 
Zafran:
Yep - Just shows that God's messege has always been universal.

Then why isn't "loving your neighbor as yourself" the number 1 priority of ALL religiously minded people, particularly the Abrahamic religions? It seems to me that if it's so OBVIOUS to be a universal commandment from God, that to fail to do it is simple, direct disobedience.

To fail to love one's neighbor before God is to disobey the commandment...right?

you can love anyone you want, to throw pearls before swine or to enjoin evil is forbidden.

i guess to be able to discern disobedience while maintaining a sense of humility is the key.. finding a middle path to walk where ones heart and mind still function with the other senses.
 
Funny that idolatry is seen as a worse sin than atheism


Where did you get that idea from? idolatry and atheism is the same in Islam = musryk.

although in my opinion idolatry is worse because you worship creation. which is a clear case of creating your own gods.
 
soz to bring it back to the sabbath but im hoping to get the following answered, i hear that even "self-defense or calling a doctor to save a
patient who was in bad condition", is this true?
 
  • Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world.
- Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5; Babylonian Talmud Tractate Sanhedrin 37a

The Quran confirms that this message was given to the "Children of Israel" in Surah 5 verse 32.

YM---I would seriously recommend you spend some time looking at good Jewish websites to get the basics......
 
Look, if you want answers about Judaism, go to Chabad.org and call your local chabad house. I can guarantee they won't try to convert you.
 

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